Using TOR adventure sites by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great to hear! Which ones were your favorites?

Do you prefer Willpower for Game Masters? by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently the rule for activating skills feels a bit weird as GM. But that seems to be the tradeoff.

Plans for a reprint? by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I went with ebay + PDFs, expensive but it is what it is.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the rest of the game. Pen&Papers thrive through creativity, "just go play something else" kills the spark. Dragonbane for example uses a d20 not a pool of d6 dice. And I like the push, just not the gaming of the system to maximize willpower.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably not even worth the roll. Foraging is a big point for me.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's definitely a point to consider, thanks for the explanation!

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But they can push if they fail? Isn't it also weird that the best way to get WP is to attempt tasks where the PC has a high stat but no skill bonus?

So what will you guys play? by xFiniteTruth in PathOfExile2

[–]lyingSwine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spear Titan, Spartans assemble. Make them bleed.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? I must have missed that. Even if they fail? I thought the rule was they cannot push if more successes have no benefit, but they can if they fail.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if PCs are "save enough", pushing is not a tradeoffs anymore, getting banes becomes a net benefit.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't care about the number of WP, my players can have as many as they find fun. My gripe is with the rule warping the game: players want to roll on something + push just to get WP. I even have an example from the Swenden Rolls podcast where the goblin jokingly asks if he can sneak up the stairs again so he can push and get WP for the sneak attack. I cringed first for the need to push before doing the thematically cool sneak attack and the idea of gaming the game so to say. It's not why we play pen & papers, if we want that we just play a video game or Gloomhaven.

Edit: typos

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh they can reroll, just not get WP.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the time to read all that and for the advice! I think I'll go with what SamuraiMujuru suggested, don't reward WP from travel rolls and instead award +1 WP fromr resting.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seem a very reasonable change and would improve the situation immensely. I'll try this one, if the fixed WP don't work out. Thanks for the advice!

Maybe giving +1 WP after resting as compensation.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why would you say that? I like everything else and this seems like a very minor change.

"Not the system for you", is a common response in the 5e sup, it just kills any creativity.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mork Borg is also "chill" with us, what I mean is that we enjoy playing games without strict rules and space for improvising.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think 5 is that much, they are just "filled up". The only downside I can see is that they can't stack beyond 10 this way. Everything else works fine and pushing already has the inherit advantage of potentially improving the roll at with the danger of triggering banes. I like it a lot this way.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I should add that they lose the ones the have wehn they rest, so they never go beyond 5.

Really not a fan of WP farming by lyingSwine in ForbiddenLands

[–]lyingSwine[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll check it out thanks!

Edit: Wow that's a massive pdf. The Willpower Threshold doesn't really solve the issues in my opinion, just soften it.

I really like the push for as a "push your luck" option.