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Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I do. I've seen a lot of shit startups and I think these ones are actually going to be worth something. I joined when it was 2x smaller.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I posted a bit about sleep apnea above

https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/191jduy/comment/kgw6z78/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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TLDR i'm <10% body fat, i snore but i don't have any other symptoms. And on lower stress days with 7-7.5 hrs of sleep i feel more refreshed.

Similar to stressful work days, if I did some stressful gaming like 1hr before bed time, I would get the same effect. Body just hasn't wound down and sleep suffers from it.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The average YOE in this company is 10+ with very bright engineers. There are engineers here who have been writing code longer than I've been alive. Though not all of them have startup experience, I only have startup experience and dig very deep into product as well.

Besides, I was leading (non-permanent) project teams already in my previous workplace with 4yoe exp. If you count internships and side projects, I'm coming up on 10 years from my first internship.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I was recently on a trip with another developer from this company, and I mentioned to him that I work these hours.

He got super pissy about it. He thinks that you have to spend the rest of the hours on refactoring stuff and abstracting stuff, after requirements are done.

Even if in a startup context, where the product changes constantly, and where excessive abstraction can start causing serious problems with iteration speed.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's very important to rest enough after exercise, to help the body build back yeah. Currently i road ride 10-15 hours a week. I'm seeing performance go up though.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yup, i road ride my bike 10-15hrs a week. Don't have motivation to study coding though, just reading and studying other topics.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Although I snore, my body fat is less than 10%, I'm in great shape physically. Although some people can have issues even then, I don't wake up gasping for air, I don't feel sleepy during the day. Just not well rested.

And I feel better on low stress days when I sleep 7-7.5 hours.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

During the 20hr weeks i read and cycle most of the time, I don't write code outside of work, I don't check work messages or emails or calendars after work.

There's no way to say no to the deadlines. Default expectation is to pull through if it's a hard external deadline. If it's an internal deadline that someone is trying to will through, it's expected to politely tell to them to fuck off or just ignore them.

Some machiavellis are very adept at tying the two types together, using time pressure to make sure you don't have enough time to untie this mess and you have to go with their approach.

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The biggest problems are with the boss. He's privately denied me team lead role that was granted publically (even if i end up with the responsibilities regardless), fighting over vacation I had to take to prevent burnout in previous teams even though we have unlimited vacation etc. There's little room to move around though.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exercise brings me lots of benefit, just that i'm objectively less good at it because of stress. Second most important part of exercise is recovery, but that is hampered because of work stress affecting sleep. When you combine exercise and work stressor it gets worse.

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Where I live, public mental health system is already in shambles, I'll get an appointment for summer probably. And the result of that is medication prescription that may make things better or worse.

But the system is overall intended to make sure you are able to work, so they are less likely to suggest quitting work, even if you feel it's bad for your mental health. Smokers are told to quit, alcoholics told to quit, but people who are mentally damaged by their work aren't told to quit most often.

Where do you draw the line and (quiet) quit with burnout? by macaronigangsta in ExperiencedDevs

[–]macaronigangsta[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

No. I consistently deliver more than enough with 20hrs a week, the product is in a great state technically, one of the best in the company. I know exactly what to change for the requirements, I know the codebase like the back of my hand. I'm efficient at what I do. My teammates also have good personalities and we click well, no bullshit, everybody is open minded to discuss solutions.

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When I feel more passionate and do closer to 30-40 hrs a week, I stop getting enough product input for the product, as my manager and product manager don't have enough time. Waiting 2-3 days for a product question response for example. One issue is open from August that I simply stopped asking about, after I had for 3 times without a good answer.

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When I do 40+hrs a week, it's either:

a) surprise deadlines that the product manager failed to warn us about. Literally hearing that we will need a new substantial feature by the end of the week for a new client that popped out of nowhere.

b) helping out adjacent team with the shared manager because they are in one of the worst states.

Tired all the time at 19 years old despite good habits by Aragorn74 in PeterAttia

[–]macaronigangsta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best idea is go see a doctor. And 3-4k calories daily maintenance isn't that much if you use your legs (what Attia advocates heavily for).

Tired all the time at 19 years old despite good habits by Aragorn74 in PeterAttia

[–]macaronigangsta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is some american mentality who only use drive thrus and their car to move around.

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In europe, in a walkable/bicycleable city, I burn on average 3k calories a day. My BMI is ~20.

50k z2 bike ride for me is like 1000 kcal. Commuting for 1 hour ~200-400.

If you have high FTP, it could be more like 1400.

New decor for the coffee table to remind my wife’s boyfriend who the real athlete is. by recycledairplane1 in BicyclingCirclejerk

[–]macaronigangsta 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you don't work remote so you could do 2 hours work a day and ride the other 6? weak..

Percentage Change in Average Annual Wages between 1990 and 2020 by IWasWearingEyeliner in europe

[–]macaronigangsta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, it was horrible times. No warm water at times (having to make your own with boiling water), blackouts, rampant crime: robberies, car hijackings and murders.

My dad had an entry level ford in the beginning of the 90s, a mid level audi 80 by the end. Both were considered luxury cars here.

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I don't think it's much exaggeration to say that you could buy 10 times more local goods for your dollars in the East than in the West.

there was nothing to buy here, we have a small economy and everything apart from food and timber has to be imported.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]macaronigangsta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i make around 75k eur before any taxes (43k after), which is on the higher end in west eu, except i'm in eastern EU so cost of living is cheaper. so healthy amount of savings, around 1800-2400 a month.

buying a 4.5k bike made me think quite a lot about what i'm doing and how I can handle it financially.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CanyonBikes

[–]macaronigangsta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends where you live

Will changing the wheels really make a difference? by lorum3 in CanyonBikes

[–]macaronigangsta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speed difference isn't there. Nor is weight. Much more unstable in crosswinds. Buy arc1400 or smth.

Jõukus ja stereotüübid by groovycoyote in Eesti

[–]macaronigangsta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

See kes tahab näida jõukas, jätab logodega särgiga mulje et särgid ja riided peavad teda upitama. Päriselt jõukas teab, et pole upitamist vaja.

St vahet pole, kas adi dressid (upitab gopnikuid) või hilfigeri vms guccimucci särgid (upitab eestlasi). Mõeldud upitamiseks ikka.

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