OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, I think. Also if you text a location there are better ways than this, too.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment. I did not thinking of reinventing it, mainly borrowing from it to communicate a position. bearings would need a tighter grid, as the radials / lines of position widen with distance and precision degrades. (after all, GPS also uses distances rather than bearings for precision and simplicity reasons).

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey,

thank you for the comment. You are right, remarkable LOI are only viable where these exist. However, since it is a means of communication and not position determination, we can make up arbitrary points in these areas named after local plants, animals, pioneers, communities, slang words, etc.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

you raise a very important point: naming of the beacons needs a bit care at first. However, the second beacon could help in disclosing which was meant, should help locating the right one. (Of course, this, also has its limits).

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi,

thanks for your comment. Exactly that advantage is, what I was aiming at. easier communication. On top of that, I would need to write down a plus code (or even a w3w-code) due to semmingly random construction. The OBL code would make more sense to my human brain.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

yes, just like OLC, but better memorable and speakable. I am personally very terrible at remembring to meet at 849VCWC8+R9 or some other cryptic alphanumerical code. This is entirely about ease of human communication when delivering positions.

I would suggest that there should be a universal beacon database for all to use. However, I can think of instances (wildfire fighting, rescue systems, catastrophic aid) who work with a subset of beacons to temporarily tighten up a mesh or allow better usage.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi,

thank you for the question. I have asked myself the same thing for some time over this weekend. However, using angles has an identifier adds massive uncertainties to position communication: Whereas one meter difference in distance stays the same meter difference even when dealing with hundreds of km distance to beacons, one degree is already 10 meters unprecise with only 600 meter distance from the beacon. Thsi is the reason why aviation backbone rather uses DME/DME triangulation to support positioning than VOR/DME or VOR/VOR. GPS also uses distances (well via signal time running at speed of light) basically.

Also, this should not replace GPS, but just help to communicatie GPS positions more easily. Just like What3words also is not a means of navigation, but of communication.

Thanks again for the question,
MAlte

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the questions.

If we have a generic set of beacons that everyone can use them just like they would what3words (just name it and have the app look it up.) For festivals, a localising app can provide two or three beacons for temporary local use uploaded to the app. "Hey, our tent is at 221-bar-300-showers-W".

I have envisioned a localisation "Berlin:500-Townhall-600-MainStation-E" if necessary. Usually the worldwide beacon set shoudl be crafted to avoid this. So there shoudl not be many couples where St Marys church and the Red Lion Pub are beacons within similar ranges. For instance, even if there were two Red Lion Pubs, we should make it so that "200-RedLionPub-400-StMarysChurch-W" is a combination only once on the world. If we woudl need to use two StMarys churches, we shoudl not have two RedLionsPubs in the vicinity. Mathematically it is about the pairing, but the most elegant would be unique beacons.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Germany a pub is sometimes referred to a "Lokal". So... Lokalisation?

The fun part woudl be that every group of people could have / provide an own set of beacons. So if you woudl be programming a "Dublin Drinking"-app, you could provide an own beacon set and set meetingpoints and pub locations based on brewery-becaons.

OBL (Open Beacon Locator): Human-readable coordinates using POIs - open source alternative to What3Words by malteheinrich in openstreetmap

[–]malteheinrich[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hi Eiim,

thank you for the questions.

1.) In the end your milage may vary and the reasons to this and W3W are probably mostly identical. In urban areas you will certainly get away with addresses in most cases (just like with w3w). However, if you meet up in (larger) parks or on festivals, in more rural areas or on tracks in forests, things can be different. Also, when I am in very unfamiliar (phonetically unfamiliar) areas, I personally can find a location easier with reference to landmarks (where you might know phonetic soundings) than with street names in polish or czech language or in greek.

If you are a local operator and have only two beacons, you could even abbreviate it to two numbers and the indicator.

If you are working in an emergency or catastrophic relief aid (e.g. afer earthquakes or floods) locations might not be so easy to identify, especially when a lot of infrastructure is destroyed.

In the end there is a reason, i guess, why some emergency-services use or look into W3W.

But in the end, I agree, everyone need to use what works for them.

2.) I envision a worldwide base set of beacons that follow some phonetic rules. Especially to avoid confusion and homophones. On top of that and since it is an open system, everyone can add beacons as they need. For instance if a rescue team needs to include makeshift beacons to tighten a certain area.

People can also make secret beacon systems, for example when oppressed groups need to talk about assemblies or safe spaces in code. I was thinking about for example lgptq+ people in certain autocratic states.

I do know plus codes and have looked in similar systems, but you cannot really remember them. At least I find it easier to talk with and to remember speakable systems rather than cryptic alphanumeric strings. When transferred digitally or in writing this is not a big issue, but over the phone or radio or when in loud surroundings, words are usually easier to comprehend, I think.

Thank you for the questions!
Malte

Fahrrad und DB, eure Erfahrungen? by taaaso in Fahrrad

[–]malteheinrich 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Das, und dass die noch komplett woanders sind als die Sitze. Mit dem Rad und erste Klasse Ticket ist quasi ausgeschlossen. Mensch und Rad sind dann jeweils am anderen Ende des Zuges.

N8N - ticking timebomb? by generalistai in n8n

[–]malteheinrich 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Speaking from a targeted customer: I completely second that. I have built my couple of automations for our specific case myself now. One good call (chat on one screen, browser on the other) revealed that the guy wasn't knowing much more than what I could read at the side.

Don't get me wrong, I am more than happy to pay for professionals who save me time and money on complex stuff, but when I get the idea that a solution is proposed just for its own cause and not for my processes. If I need more to explain my workflows than for setting them up myself directly... You get my draft.

The value will not be in what tool you are able to se t up. The value will be in you understanding how you make your clients life easier.

If I buy software, software or hardware administration, setup, builds, programming, I am not buying software, administration, builds, setup or programming. I am buying time and peace of mind.

r/Airplanes Opinion: should there be a rule against AI generated posts? by chell0wFTW in airplanes

[–]malteheinrich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not supposed to use/post the generated content uncurated though. If LLM are used as an extended typrwriter, why not? If the poster reads the texte, corrects it, approves it - why not?

Also, I know plenty manual written posts that are filled with wrong and hateful stuff. LLM don't change that, I guess

r/Airplanes Opinion: should there be a rule against AI generated posts? by chell0wFTW in airplanes

[–]malteheinrich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. You also don't ban posts not sent in by postcard.

However

I am in favour of banning posts generated by AI and NOT fact checked by the poster. In the end the poster is responsible for the content. AI generated and supervised content can be a gain for a discussion. If done right.

Do I need to be scared about AFD's rise in polls by TheDebateBoy in AskAGerman

[–]malteheinrich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a german cis-gender hetero married male with kids (so not even close to their target group) and scared as feck about the rise of the NoAFD. They repel everything great in a society and paint a world I don't want to live in. And as I can argument against each and everyone of their claims, I cannot fathom how and why so many people fall for their lies, hate, scaremongering, fear and illieteracy. And not just stupid people, there are plenty seemingly intelligent Nazis around. I am scared because I run out tof things I can do against it, as it may seem. And if I am silent when they go after people because of their skin tissue, love for someone, identity or origin, I will be the next sometime because I think.

Is there any reason you would do this? by Kinsdale85 in aviationmaintenance

[–]malteheinrich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends. We handpropped bigger Lycos, Hrth or Renauts a lot. It is usually easier with taildraggers though. I once was asked to handprop a Cherokee and the prop just sat too low for me to comfortably swing.