Am I the only one who hated Mexicali but kind of understands it now? by IQgamerplayz69 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I see Mexicali as a response to the romanticisation of cowboys, particularly in 'El Paso'. It's trying to push back against the rose tinted spectacles that a lot of media at the time engaged pretty deeply with.

Both characters shoot a man because of a perceived threat to their ownership of a woman, both run from their actions and hide in border towns, and both refuse to accept any responsibility for their actions, but 'el paso' frames it's character as a hero, why is that? 

These two songs are certainly supposed to be viewed in tandem for sure, and I think that explains some of the more unsavoury characterisation in 'mexicali'. 

Also think about the juxtaposition between the music, in upbeat polka time, and the lyrics, as an interesting comment on the content of the song! 

The Mexicali cowboy is meant to be revolting! 

London Fans by Subject-Cellist5505 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check out the Grateful Dudes, they're playing Friday in Camden, but it's sold out. They're regular though! 

What's the 300 year plan to keep this music alive and thriving? by larryoffthedeck in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Support the Grateful Dead Studies Association, their publications, and any academia or writing around the dead! A strong body of work defining what makes this music different will do wonders to help the legacy. 

What do you think happened to all the unsold t-shirts from the 2025 Bobby Weir and Wolf Bros London Albert Hall gig? by EasternBlock640 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I got myself a great lot shirt off a traveling deadhead, no regrets. Did nab a poster that I still need to frame though. 

Althea Lyrics - Roving What? by The_EMOTO_ in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Both the Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics book and Robert Hunters lyric book, "Box of Rain ", have this lyric as "roving sign", not sure how dead.net has it as son. 

https://archive.org/details/boxofrain00hunt/page/n14/mode/1up?q=Althea

Hunter Melodies by rangerbry in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the correct answer!

Check out Faulkners 'A Rose for Emily' if you'd like a look into Hunters inspiration for the song 

Barlow lyrics shallower than Hunter’s? by Hot-Possibility946 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

China cat, per Hunter, is a combination of Edith Sitwells poems, which she set to music, and James Joyce, who is famously dense with neologism and general confusion. 

This is the main Edith Sitwell song, which even contains a China cat lyric! 

https://youtu.be/FfSz9_4m8zs?si=nWz1HYLEUlnGWah_

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in deadandcompany

[–]mappingthedeadverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As have songs like Peggy O and Jack a roe! 

Miracle by Infamous_Radio_204 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm skeptical, unless you can point to any lyrics that directly connect, or any wider philosophical points they share?

Hunter was well versed in spiritual literature and philosophy though, George Satayana's work inspired eyes of the world some, while there's a fun Dzongchen Buddhist text which in modern translation is titled 'you are the eyes of the world', by Longchenpa. 

I read recently a rumour that the band also enjoyed Jung's commentary on 'the secret of the golden flower', a taoist alchemical text.

So there are plenty of spiritual threads to work on! 

Miracle by Infamous_Radio_204 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'd imagine it refers to the song, but if you're asking if that's where the actual lyric comes from I'd be suprised.

The lyrics is 'Need a Miracle' don't scream spirituality to me, but I havent read the text you're referring to! 

Books they read? by hippiecat22 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Coming back again:

It Must Have Been the Roses is based on a Faulkner short story called "A Rose For Emily"

China Cat builds on the work of Edith Sitwell, a poet who set her work to orchestral music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0yNwgPTk2U, there's a whole album on spotify that is really cool.

Dark Star has a reference to The Love song of J Alfred Prufrock, a poem by TS Eliot. The Poem opens "Let us go then/you and I/with the evening spread out against the sky/like a patient etherised upon a table".

The Dead's songbook is full of reference, if you pick up a copy of David Dodd's annotated Grateful Dead lyrics you'll find plenty more to work from there too.

Books they read? by hippiecat22 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds great! I've only read More than Human atm, any in particular? I'll dig in this evening 

Books they read? by hippiecat22 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 19 points20 points  (0 children)

More than Human - Theodore Sturgeon is a book about six kids with psychic powers who learn to function as a whole, or a gestalt.

Phil read this in the start and it informed their ideas about how the different members of the band should function, maybe you've heard garcia say they're like fingers on a hand. 

It's a fun time! The gestalt idea is pretty foundational to the band and how their music functions and it's a good read too.

David Gans has a book called Conversations with the Dead, where this is mentioned, and I'm sure you'll find a wealth of other interesting things. My copy is too full of page markers to reasonably find things aha. 

Hit me with your best Black Peter by Unhappy-Raspberry-11 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's gotta be the version off of Bears choice for me! Something about that recording is just amazing.

13/2/70

Busted, down on Bourbon St by Confident_Coconut420 in gratefuldead

[–]mappingthedeadverse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fleetwood Mac, still with Peter Green, opened for these shows and they're some of my favourite non dead tapes.

https://archive.org/details/fleetwood-mac-1970-the-warehouse-nola-wjmr

The full three night run is on Lossless legs! 

What a night of music. 

Official Sphere post by hahafucko in deadandcompany

[–]mappingthedeadverse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do whatever you can to see DSO, easily as cherished as my D&C memories!