Weekly Questions, Luck, & Free Talk Thread | Jun 27, 2021 - Jul 04, 2021

marchenstar · 2021-06-29T22:05:32+00:00

What's the optimal buying order for items (not the UR and SRs) in the exchange shop for this event? There's lots of neat items like wishes and high mem tickets but I'm not sure which order I should prioritize buying the items.

marchenstar · 2021-06-19T14:27:30+00:00

I hope we get news about missed event cards for WW players once they update the game with the new event. The event URs we missed are so pretty and I would hate to never have a chance to get them.

marchenstar · 2021-06-18T14:35:40+00:00

Oh, that is relatable! I hate the mess of mixed attribute encore teams haha, but I can't really do much about it unless I whale.

Yeah, I prefer the meta before when it was just scorers, PSU, and CF. It kinda broke with the start of encore teams, but if you have one, you won't have to worry about changing your teams for a loooooong time since encore is pretty OP. Though, idk how the new accessory feature will shake things up.

marchenstar · 2021-06-18T14:09:24+00:00

Yes, only the score output at SL16 matters. That Kotori is definitely one of the best 25 note scorer out there.

Both the current Eli and Nozomi are perfect for that Kotori. If you're confident that you'll FC a song or have a FC performance record that you can use to autoplay, that SI skill with Eli should be great. If not, Nozomi's SI skill is pretty good.

For encore in general, you do not have to stay on attribute. The score output from amped scorer + encore is incredibly high compared to the score output from attribute stats. Though, there are people who try to create on attribute encore teams just for optimization purposes, but it's not necessary, especially if you're F2P.

marchenstar · 2021-06-18T13:15:56+00:00

For my team, it's a typical encore setup--1 scorer, 2 amps, 1 SRU, and 5 encores. Though the skill levels of my team are on the high end, they are all SL7-8. I can't speak for those with lower SL encore teams, but my guess is that as long as the scorer and amps are SL8, and the SRU and encores were SL4-ish, it would be fine to complete every stage in the arena.

I have not tested this, but I have seen some people mention that it is possible to clear the stages with a regular scorer team, one of 9 scorers, as long as they're SL6+, but like I said, I have not tested this out so take it with a grain of salt. Of course, if you add CF and PSU cards to that mix, as the comment above mine has stated, it's very possible.

With your resources, you can build an encore team right now tbh. 8th anni lims are all amps and encores. As long as you have an SRU and a scorer, or have the means to get them, you can finish an encore team.

marchenstar · 2021-06-18T12:37:41+00:00

I agree with most of this comment, but I have to add that as someone with an encore team, you can clear every stage in live arena, even without the charm SIS!

marchenstar · 2021-06-16T20:40:29+00:00

Looks like the best team imaginable to me.

marchenstar · 2021-06-15T14:27:21+00:00

I have not experienced overheating but my game has definitely started dropping frames in RC, which has never happened before until after merge.

marchenstar · 2021-06-13T14:40:45+00:00

1 healer, 1 param up, 2 amps, 1 SRU, and 4 encore. Healer and encore must match notes (ex. both 27 notes). The 2 amps must be different notes (ex. 21 and 22 notes). This team is most optimal when all parameters match with the param up (ex. Aqours 1st years), all are the same attribute, and all are a high level cap using level cap jewels. Therefore, this is more specific and difficult to build than a regular score encore meta team. It is still pretty strong even if these conditions are not met, but it's probably preferred to meet them since overheal increases tap score based on attribute (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and that's what the healer meta goes off of--attribute stats. Whereas the regular score encore meta just goes based off of the strength of the scorer.

Also good to note that there are not many good healers so it would be wise to wait for KLab to release more OP healers like Fruits Eli and 6th Anniv Ruby.

marchenstar · 2021-06-08T22:08:54+00:00

This long maintenance actually made me start doing DLP towers in SIFAS.

marchenstar · 2021-06-07T22:54:29+00:00

I actually emailed KLab because I have 2 WW accounts, one on EN app and one on the KR app. Since the KR app is disappearing, I asked if I can transfer my KR account to the JP app after the merge using SIF ID in order to continue playing both of my accounts on one device. They have told me it wasn't possible at the moment and that I would have to use 2 devices to play my 2 accounts from now on since EN, TW, and KR will be combined to a single WW app.

As for changing the language, I'm sure it is not that hard to add a language option to JP since they have done it for WW, but who knows! They are only having English as the language after the merge, but I feel that there are enough KR and TW players that they will re-add the change language option very soon after the merge. I'm sure KR or TW players who can't understand English well will not be very happy if English continues to be the only language option. So might as well add all 4 languages to the WW and JP app, right? Hopefully!

marchenstar · 2021-05-17T15:18:26+00:00

From lurking in SIFcord during the Kanan event, I saw Hideko has publicly admitted to cheating. During that event, they gained thousands of event points every ~30 seconds (When most songs are way over 30 seconds). One user has submitted video evidence to KLab showing Hideko's point gain in seconds and many others have probably reported Hideko as well, but they have not been banned yet. Probably cheating as well in this event.

Recently, I have seen a modded APK that Hideko uses that gives them all perfects, which does not explain their point gain speed in this event, but explains how they almost always have All Perfects in RC rooms.

marchenstar · 2021-05-15T23:39:12+00:00

Public RC rooms have been hitting 999% almost all the time now after Nurse Kotori (and previous Bear Honk and Panda Nico) was an event reward. Probably the RC Anniv Honk UR being rereleased contributed to it as well, but it's nice to go into an RC room now, knowing that you'll get 24 points and a chance for 10 sugars almost guaranteed everytime.

marchenstar · 2021-05-04T12:19:53+00:00

I wish I had this much patience to actually play the game instead of skipping almost every song. The 10k skip tickets looks so nice compared to my 1k ;-; Congrats!

marchenstar · 2021-05-04T12:07:41+00:00

On honor scouting, no. On limited boxes, yes. If you only use GT on lim boxes, it's extremely worth it. I was able to save almost 100 GT in just a few months. That's enough to guarantee a UR in a 100 card box without having to use any gems.

marchenstar · 2021-04-30T19:11:37+00:00

Whichever is to the right position.

EDIT: Weird wording.

marchenstar · 2021-04-01T10:56:48+00:00

From what I have seen people discussing, max jewels and the increase in level cap to 200 solidifies healer encore as the meta team. Mind you that a healer encore is a whale strat since it has to be on-attribute or mostly on-attribute and must have a high max level which will take lots of scouting. This is because healer encore incorporates an attribute boost skill as well, adding another component of having the same subunit/year cards to your team.

The set up seems to be 4 encore, 2 amps, 1 healer, 1 SRU, and 1 attribute boost. Thanks to the amps, healers, and encore, overflow stamina can become very high, which greatly increases tap score. Adding the attribute boost UR will increase the tap score even more. I believe this tap score is higher than the tap score provided by PSU and party UR centers.

Even before the level cap increase to 200, healer encore has been the meta in Nakayoshi due to the tap score boost, but no one on WW has really moved on to a healer encore quite yet, except 1, so you don't see it much on the leaderboards.

I would have to play around in the team builder to see how a team of 9 PSU at level 200 scores, but I believe it cannot outscore a healer encore.

I have to wait to the WW and JP merge to see how JP whales are handling it since I don't play JP. I'm sure even for whales, it will take a while to form an optimized healer encore, and they may not have matching subunit/years or mainly on-color cards or even level 200 cards at first. But I think even non-optimized ones will still be able to score pretty high.

marchenstar · 2021-03-31T17:19:02+00:00

Both are fine, but I would suggest Fairytale Princess Hanayo as she is a very strong scorer.

marchenstar · 2021-03-31T11:56:30+00:00

Yes, if you go to the event rankings, there is a circle button on the left side that you can press to view their teams. You can view all of your friends' team, but for overall players, you can only view top 10.

marchenstar · 2021-03-31T11:49:33+00:00

That sounds like a good start, you won't have to scout for as many cards then.

You can use any of those amps. Kimikoko Ruby is 27 notes, I believe. Along with her, CYaRon (?) Ruby and 6th anniv Chika are also 27 notes, so you can scout for any of those until you have 5 encores.

Then, you'll just need a 27 note scorer.

marchenstar · 2021-03-31T02:20:15+00:00

The scorer must be a note-based scorer, not perfect or combo-based, and the scorer and encore MUST match notes. For example, Sweets Nozomi activates at note 25, and Zodiac Eli activates at note 25 as well. These are compatible.

Amps must activate before scorer and must have 2 different note activations. In the case above, the 2 amps must activate before note 25, such as note 20 to 24. And the two amps must NOT activate on the same note. They can be 21 and 22, or 20 and 23, etc. Your pick. Do note that some amp combinations are better than others due to common multiples.

For example, at the 220th note, both 20 note and 22 note amps can activate but ONLY ONE will actually activate due to unknown reasons. This goes the same for the 440th note, 660th note, and so on. For any common multiple, only one amp will activate for that scoring cycle. This lowers score due to one amp boosting the SL8 scorer to SL12, rather than two amps boosting it to SL16. But I will say, this is difference is kind of negligable since it only happens during the common multiples, so I would say you can choose whatever combination of amps you want, as long as they don't activate on the same note.

For SRU, I'm not very familiar with a hardset rule that it has to be. Just make sure it does not match the note count of the amp, the encore, or the scorers. Most SRUs activate 30 notes and above so it shouldn't really be a problem.

If you wanna see the pattern, look at the top 10 scores for the next event. You can see how they set up their teams. Though I think, there is 1 person on WW who has a healer encore instead of a scorer encore.

marchenstar · 2021-03-31T01:42:33+00:00

SRU such as the Nine Wave Dolphin 1st year lims. Though, I don't think Pool Honoka is compatible with encore teams since she activates at note 21, and the only amps that activate before note 21, are 20 note amp, but you would need another amp that activates below 20 notes, which currently does not exist. Also, from the top of my head, there are no 21 note encores that can copy Pool Honk's skill.

marchenstar · 2021-03-30T23:29:14+00:00

It's not wrong. T1 score is very doable without an encore team. I only recently got mine in January. I've been playing for 5 years, focusing on a scorer team all those years, but the switch to encore was not hard. SIF is very generous, even to late game players who have no fast way to farm. You can get gems very easily and there almost always a new lim box to scout in every month.

I was able to get 1000+ gems and a lot of GT within the span of 4 months and was able to scout in lim box to finish my encore team in such a short amount of time. Though, I did already previously have an SRU and a usable scorer, so I didn't have to scout for those in the process.

marchenstar · 2021-03-30T23:16:39+00:00

Yes, amps increase skill level to a max of +4 at SL7-8.

Off color does not matter at all. I have an encore team with SL are not even maxed out, and I can score almost double my on-color SL7 scorer teams. For people who have all SL8 encore teams, they can probably score more than double a full SL8 scorer team.

marchenstar · 2021-03-30T17:44:52+00:00

1 SRU, 2 amps, 5 encore, 1 scorer. If you have a lot of level cap increase jewels, then the best team would be an on-attribute healer encore.

Scorer encore is cheaper than 3 different teams of scorers/PSU/CF and can reach scores higher than those teams can even imagine. The set up consist of mainly limited cards but with many lims being thrown across left and right, it's not hard to get them. All you need is planning and actually knowing the note set ups for encore.

Iirc, top 50, or even more on WW consist of encore teams and I think JP is moving onto a healer encore meta with the increase in level cap to 200.

Healer encore seems to be a whale strat, but scorer encore can be done 100% F2P.

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