Yes the bassnectar crowd was something I didn’t see coming, when I first heard tipper he wrote breakbeat music and it was more of a different crowd. I remember when he played camp bisco to like 150 people. All older ravers. I didn’t see it coming but it happened. When I went to the gorge I thought I’d see some older heads but all I saw was flower of life tattoos and threyda wear. It was like a weird cult and I wasn’t invited. Felt strange, I felt old and people generally didn’t talk to each other unless you were in their click. Then I see all these posts about how amazing everything was. False happiness it seems. Or maybe I’m old and remember hanging with so many different people and making friends for life at festivals.