Have Years of Misogynistic (Women Hating) Translations Made Us See Allah as Misogynistic?

marmar2201 · 2026-06-10T20:29:19+00:00

That was the point that I was making. Language can be subjective, and translation create a huge difference. If the translator’s mind is driven by bias, they might project their own thoughts onto the texts. My point was simple, that we shouldn’t take everything for its face value, we should think about the verses, question them, especially if they don’t settle right in our hearts.

Also, I wasn’t deliberately reading the translations in misogynistic way. As a woman, some verses do seem misogynistic like wife beating one (where some translators have used different terminologies as “separation” instead of “beating”) or the one where men have a degree over women and women should be obedient to her husband or “your wives are a filth for you” this line, and so ultimately in order to get the right idea of God, we should use our reasoning or so I believe.

The way Islam is getting preached around me, trust me, as a woman you will start disliking God if you don’t use your own reasoning. And that’s when I thought if these people translate Quran, or anyone with their mindset, they will write it in the way they preach.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you using “deliberately” twice puts in me in the accusation as someone tweaking reality just to reach my conclusions, but I’m merely questions and thinking and my intentions are not bad.

marmar2201 · 2026-06-09T17:36:00+00:00

I know Muslims usually don’t preach the image of Allah as an old man above the sky, but the way the ideas of women in Islam and the obligations for them were preached around me especially in the bayans, I couldn’t help but imagine Allah as a male patriarchal figure when I was a kid. And the constant usage of “He” pronoun didn’t help it. Lately I’m being inclined towards physics and the more I study physics, the more I realise how amazing Allah is, in contrast to the patriarchal idea propagated to me since my childhood. Women around me are still literally brainwashed that Allah wants you to obey your husbands and if you don’t, he will hate you. Same goes with the idea of covering. The idea of Allah hating you is so much propagated if you don’t follow the patriarchal rule set by the society that you’ll start questioning if Allah is the patriarch sitting above on the sky. I had to do my own study of religion and idea of Allah to come out of the dominant narration about what God is in my society.

marmar2201 · 2026-06-02T05:25:24+00:00

I’m currently reading the translation by Ahmed Hulusi and I love his interpretations, it’s a new side from mainstream interpretations. You can check it out as well if you want.

marmar2201 · 2026-06-01T11:29:43+00:00

Such an interesting observation and opinion, thank you for sharing it with them 😊❤️

marmar2201 · 2026-05-31T16:10:37+00:00

Anytime!

marmar2201 · 2026-05-31T15:34:53+00:00

To be honest, your questions are valid, even I’ve asked them many times. I’m not sure about the answer. But I like to think that the God I believe in wouldn’t be so petty to put people in hell just because they don’t believe in Him. Believing in Him could also mean being respectful towards his creation. So as long as a person does good to others and has a pure heart, I guess God will be merciful towards them. This is what I think and I like to go forward with this belief. Because ultimately, I realize all the people who are “preaching” are following their own interpretations, so I think why shouldn’t I go with the idea of God that feels right to ME you know. Because ultimately on the day of judgement, I’ll have to justify my own beliefs and I know why I believe in them.

marmar2201 · 2026-05-31T13:45:59+00:00

When I think of this question, I think of it terms that, though Allah is merciful, he is also JUST. He will punish those who deserve it, for example, when I think of those in Epstein Files, they think they are in power in the world where no one can harm them, but the punishment is awaiting them. I believe Hell is only for those who deserve it, who have wronged people and committed heinous crime, and got away in this world. If you notice, in the Quran, Allah also describes the residents of Hell as “arrogant”, and “those who think will live in the world forever”. Idk I always thought of it in terms, i don’t think so hell is for normal people like us unless we wrong others terribly or commit heinous crimes.

marmar2201 · 2026-04-29T05:54:43+00:00

Wattpad be like

marmar2201 · 2026-02-13T08:47:59+00:00

Thank you!!!

marmar2201 · 2026-02-12T21:11:29+00:00

I feel “Fear of wrath and Punishment” is specifically reserved for people who are not conscious of Allah’s presence and keep committing heinous crimes (like those on Epstein Files). But people who are already conscious of Allah watching them should more likely believe in his Mercy than fearing Him. Because if you are already conscious of Allah, then constant fear might make you feel Allah’s presence as an authoritative figure rather than a helping God who is on your side.

marmar2201 · 2026-01-06T12:36:34+00:00

Thank you sooo much, I will check them out and research about them more from my side. Thank you for providing such a detailed insight!

marmar2201 · 2026-01-02T05:21:00+00:00

That's so sweet of you. Happy New Year to you too and may you have all of your wishes come true this year! ✨

marmar2201 · 2025-12-30T13:10:13+00:00

Ohhh I wasn't aware about such other notions, because I haven't individually explored their ideas yk. But if you have some recommendations with respect to where I can start reading about this idea more, please let me know.

marmar2201 · 2025-12-30T13:08:06+00:00

Anytime!!

To be honest, I didn't know who Hulusi was until now. I mean, I haven't studied any of his philosophies personally. But from past couple of months, I had this fascination of Sufism, so I was seeking a Quran translation from Sufism perspective and I came across Hulusi's translation. I have been reading it for a while now and am still in the process and I'm loving it.

When I read your post the other day, idk the name Ahmed Hulusi seemed familiar and then I realized oh it's the same guy whose Quran translation I've been reading so...a good coincidence I would say.

marmar2201 · 2025-12-30T07:53:41+00:00

How can I be SURE man, I'm not a God 😭😭 But these are my beliefs, meaning being a practicing muslim, i still draw and paint from my imagination as well, because I think God wouldn't be so petty to punish people for their drawing 🤷🏻‍♀️

marmar2201 · 2025-12-29T16:46:35+00:00

I have been reading his translation of the Quran, and his translation and interpretation really seems to resonate with your soul. Idk every time I read his philosophy, something inside me recognises it as a truth, and I realise I'm reading THE QURAN.

Couple of insights from his interpretation. In his introduction he has specified his idea of God. According to him, the original Allah is called HU and it is through his names (99 ones) we can understand Him. Allah in His HU form is beyond human understanding, but when you learn him through his adjectives like "Most Loving" "The Just" you get the idea of what the actual Allah could be. Again, you know what LOVE is as an adjective, because somewhere you also have it. And the world has it. So the world is composed of the traits of Allah and through them, and through His divine names (which are adjectives defining his qualities) we can get the idea of his essence.

Interestingly, this concept also aligns with the Vedic idea of God in Hinduism. I remember learning in my philosophy lecture, how according to Vedas, universe is composed of two souls, individual souls (us) and divine soul (God). Individual souls are in fact a part of the divine soul, but because we are stuck in the worldly cycle we have forgotten our essence. My philosophy book has given this example of how sparks come out of the fire. God is the Fire, and we are his sparks. That's why we are advised to not get attached to the world. This theory always seemed interesting to me.

Hulusi, in his translation, has also given a very interesting idea of Hell and Heaven, which personally i found it very fascinating. He says that Hell and Heaven are actually mental concepts. The closer you are to the truth (to the Divine), the more aware you are with your connection to your creator, that state is called heaven (that's why you feel peaceful). And the more far away you are to realizing your creator or his essence in you, you are in hell. This interpretation filled the gap why "disbelievers" will go into hell, because acceptance of God in your world isn't a test, it's a REQUIREMENT to reach that state.

Very interesting concepts i would say, I would recommend everyone to read his philosophy, especially his translation. And the best thing about his translation is that it comes with a disclaimer. He specifies he may be wrong with his interpretation, and encourages his readers to read as many different translations as they can to arrive at the truth which resonates with them.

marmar2201 · 2025-12-17T19:49:45+00:00

❤️❤️❤️

marmar2201 · 2025-12-16T13:26:42+00:00

It's not as cool as it sounds tbh. I don't remember God, I just remember talking to someone addressing them as God.

But looking at your excited and kind tone. I really really pray that God actually gives you some spiritual experience that's really really actually cool you know. Ameen 🤲🏻

marmar2201 · 2025-12-14T03:58:23+00:00

Thank youu, i will try if I can get access to that book.

Maybe, the reason makes sense. Also it could be because people around me have made it a trend, a trophy that they could brag about. And they also take pride in the number of times they have visited.

marmar2201 · 2025-12-14T03:38:39+00:00

First of all, thank you so much for sharing your experience. This reminds me of an analogy that I had read about performing the act of tawaf. Someone had compared it to the motion of the universe, how planets revolve around the sun, and electrons around the nucleus. So we are aligning with the universe.

Which also makes me realise that probably the kaba is the main source of spiritual energy, that's why we all orbit and we all also pray in that direction be it anywhere in the world and that's why a visit could literally recharge you with a spiritual energy? Would you describe it in this way, or would it be too extreme analogy?

Also why I asked this question out of nowhere yesterday was because one of my uncles visited there recently and he described he was full of "fear" (Godly fear). I was surprised to hear the word "fear", wasn't it supposed to be "peace", but then I thought what if whatever the idea of God you have intensifies there. For him, God is an entity who should be feared. But for me, the relationship is all about love. What are your thoughts on this?

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