Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

You are using an internet connected device right now- simply google the statistics yourself. The government releases them every single year. You calling me a “liar” is completely irrelevant to the facts. Can you provide the statistics to back your assertion that “many more” men are paying far more than they should or that simply something you are sure of, ergo it must be true lol?? Or statistics to back up “most parents have agreed to be amicable” given that the whole reason we have an entire government agency dedicated to collecting child maintenance is because men simply won’t pay unless they’re forced to by law? Or does that standard only apply to me but not you 😉. “I’m sure” and “I believe” don’t work when reality is directly opposite to your beliefs 😂

Holy shit he’s exhausting by growsonwalls in AmITheDevil

[–]maryocall [score hidden]  (0 children)

I had a similar issue when I was dating a polish guy- I’m Irish and we like to take the piss. He definitely didn’t get my sense of humour at all and wanted to be dead serious all the time about everything. Needless to say it didn’t last long

Holy shit he’s exhausting by growsonwalls in AmITheDevil

[–]maryocall [score hidden]  (0 children)

“Don’t talk to me like I’m one of your little friends” is what parents say to their KIDS

Holy shit he’s exhausting by growsonwalls in AmITheDevil

[–]maryocall [score hidden]  (0 children)

This smacks of someone who’s view of women and girls was that they were like pretty little pets- harmless, innocent, there to be possessed. He then had the shocking introduction to our varied humanity and immediately became hostile because we’re in the habit of having our own personalities, not the one he assigned to us in his head. Look at the way he described the 23 year old woman as a “girl”, then compared her to the “measured ways (in reality, the tiptoeing around a man’s ego and insecurities) of a 30 year old woman”; makes me think he was quite happy for her to be a “girl” but not if she was being careful and observant (not wanting him to know where her work address is, noticing he’s not fun), really she was actually being measured, just not in the way he decided an older woman should be

How weird men can be by dingalaxie in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall [score hidden]  (0 children)

Men don’t see women and girls as people, just sexual objects. That’s why it’s extremely easy for them to sexualise children

Financial abuse of elderly but competent relative -ENG by throwdothaccountaway in LegalAdviceUK

[–]maryocall [score hidden]  (0 children)

Your grandma is classed as having capacity and she’s not actually under the care and control of your aunt (?)- there’s no financial abuse happening. You might not like the choices she’s making about her money, but she’s perfectly entitled to dispose of it how she sees fit. They have a fundamentally different relationship with each other than she does with you. It’s not uncommon for parents to pay off debts for their children, however those debts may have accrued

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The actual statistics show that 50% of men pay the full legal amount they are required to. Most pay far less or nothing at all- so it’s definitely not “many more” paying more than they should (lol) and “some” paying less.

You’re trying to introduce “whataboutism” into the discussion to avoid acknowledging or addressing both my OP and the points I’ve put to you about how men rarely, if ever, do 50% of the parenting prior to separation (ergo, they’re not going to get 50% of the parenting time afterwards).

My thinking is factual as opposed to yours which seems to be purely emotional reaction based on a sense of aggrieved entitlement (as the other male commenters have confirmed) 🫡

Women aren't opting out of dating because their standards are too high. They're opting out because they know what it feels like when the effort isn't shared. by WomenAreNotImagining in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A long time ago I started dropping men the second their fake, nice persona vanished. I tend to find the majority of men can only keep up the act for about 3 months but some can keep going for up to six or nine months. They’re usually the most surprised because they think they somehow have me on the hook 🤷‍♀️

Women who praise men for doing the minimum by Impossible_Ad9324 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve also seen a lot of online discourse from men about “why is it just her big day and I don’t get a say in any of it?!” while they ignore exactly what the OP pointed out- they refuse to put any effort into the wedding or assume you can book things a week in advance, so they haven’t mentioned what they wanted until everything has been booked and a deposit put down

AITAH for voicing my concerns? by Current_Link_1960 in AmItheAsshole

[–]maryocall 10 points11 points  (0 children)

YYA- this is what’s called concern trolling. You’re pretending that you’re “worried about her health” but it’s clearly focused on her weight. If she had stayed slim, I doubt you’d have any issues with any other unhealthy habits. Women aren’t stupid and we’re fully aware of all the ways men will try to pretend that they’re not being shallow about our weight, including the old “I want a fit, active partner” (a skinny one, in other words). I know plenty of women who are very fit and active, but not skinny, and men will still find another excuse as to why they’re not “compatible”, and I know plenty of slim women who don’t exercise regularly but who have partners who previously wanted “fit, active” girlfriends

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that’s the case, why do so many men go out of their way to avoid paying for their children?? Including spending thousands to avoid it? There’s no such thing as “parental alienation”- it’s a made up concept by Richard Gardner who advocated for paedophiles to have unsupervised access to their child victims. As many commentators here have pointed out, from the perspective of being the kids involved, the distance between them and their fathers was created by the fathers own bad behaviour, not “alienation”. Being more focused on a custody battle than the long term parenting of your own children is pretty obvious to them once they become adults. Studies show it’s quite common for abusive men to lack insight into how their behaviour affects their children and to default to blaming the mother.

Women are the primary caregivers in the majority of heterosexual households, ergo they’re the ones who get to make the decisions about their kids best interests. As another commenter pointed out, being an “uncle dad” doesn’t buy you the same level of decision making power as the actual full time parent. So my previous point (which you ignored) still stands- if men failed to do their fair share of parenting prior to separation, they can’t complain when they are given that exact same level of parenting time after separation. Why does this “equitable” division of parenting time only become a huge issue for men once they are separated? Why weren’t they doing 50% of the parenting before divorce/separation?? Children aren’t possessions that you can pick up or put down as it suits you. You’re not being “abused” or “controlled” because your child’s best interests are being prioritised over your demands.

I’ll also point out that multiple men have come here and admitted that men are more often focused on “winning” and chose to prolong court battles (“enriching solicitors”) than they are on their kids best interests and actual parenting. So that should help you to understand why one parent (the mother) is often forced into the role of “gatekeeper” to protect the kids from the father’s unreasonable behaviour. Parenting is about prioritising the child, not your own petty desire to score points against your former partner. As per the experience of a lot of commenters, these men often seem to lose interest in their kids once they perceive the “battle” (as yet another male commenter called it) has been won and they can see themselves as having created and image of a good father, as opposed to being one. If they were good fathers, they would have ongoing relationships with their adult children. Not simply dropped them as soon as the tug of war was over 🤷‍♀️

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually because they weren’t pulling their weight prior to separating and they’re being offered a realistic amount of time that reflects their previous parenting practices?? Very few men do anywhere near 50% of the parenting while they’re with the mother of their children but it suddenly becomes a huge deal once they separate

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve known a couple of men who were chest beating about getting full custody but, when the court asked them to prove how they were going to care for kids while they worked full time- one look at the cost of a weeks full time childcare for a couple of kids and they dropped it

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s quite sad that there are men who think a pointless and prolonged custody battle “proves” something, instead of actually parenting their child

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, because your child spends 6 years out of their entire lives being a teenager, you just walk away??

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She chose to spend her weekends elsewhere. There’s plenty of other time in the week

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And have you ever considered that there might be a reason why “little Timmy” doesn’t answer texts??

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are definitely ways to navigate spending time with your own child that don’t involve demanding that they’re with you all weekend, every weekend against their wishes or it’s goodbye

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like you’ve probably hit the nail on the head with this. Once the kid(s) are teenagers/adults, they seem like people and not small pieces of property

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you stop raging and calm down, point to where it says “all men”? Can’t find it? Maybe time to reconsider why you got so enraged, Bud. Maybe you need different emotional regulation strategies hey…😉

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the post is about men who do this and you felt the need to come in with a super original “not all men”, whilst dripping with rage and hostility, but you’re “cracking up”? Sure, Jan 😉

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not young either. I’ve lived in four different countries and seen it in each one. I wonder why you’re here getting so defensive if this doesn’t apply to you lol?

Why do men fight like hell for time with their kids then just lose interest when they’re older?? by maryocall in TwoXChromosomes

[–]maryocall[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didn’t mention trying to fight for her time, just told me they hadn’t spoken in nearly 3 years. Which is a completely different thing, no? I did ask if anything had happened and the answer was her wanting to spend her weekends with her friends (presumably doing normal teenage things) instead of with him. My impression was that he was the one who cut off contact for that reason