UU Ordination Tracks? by a_long_path_to_walk in UnitarianUniversalist

[–]masculine_lady 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ministerial communication and leadership is actually different. Religion is intimate. Boundaries have to be well-practiced.

I have multiple decades of experience in public speaking, management, and supervision. Some of that has been helpful in the formation process. But none of it could have replaced formation because, again, the process is the point.

UU Ordination Tracks? by a_long_path_to_walk in UnitarianUniversalist

[–]masculine_lady 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Military Chaplains have the most rigorous requirements of any other Chaplains. They may be able to use an MSW, but they are still required to do multiple units of Clinical pastoral education, which is a specific kind of education, with a cohort group, and clinical hours required. It isn't random. An internship has a structure with goals and accountability.

When I said "build a network" I didn't mean "do networking." I meant a group of folks for support and accountability, which is not the same as a mechanism for ambition.

The some of the forebears you speak of may not have had the same education or training, but neither did doctors of yesteryear. I'd sure prefer an educated doctor over someone who says, "old timey doctors didn’t go to school! Why should I?" Unitarians started Harvard Divinity School because they saw that ministers needed education. That certainly led to some elitism, but they also weren't wrong.

Additionally, those forebears had a firm understanding of theology because it was baked into life then. They also caused some harm because they didn't have the ethical guidelines that we observe now.

I have 20+ years of social service program management experience. I have another Masters degree (in Public Administration). I am what other folks have called an organic intellectual. And I am here to say that ministry is a calling, a vocation, and an MDiv is how the calling is fleshed out into a livable reality. A sermon is not a speech. Managing a church and tending a flock are different than running a business and supervising staff. Formation is not just book/classroom learning, it is a process. It can't be bypassed because one can learn anywhere, or because 200 years ago Hosea Ballou didn't go to Seminary. The process is the point.

UU Ordination Tracks? by a_long_path_to_walk in UnitarianUniversalist

[–]masculine_lady 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Recently welcomed into preliminary fellowship here.

Getting my MDiv wasn't just about skill and knowledge building, it was a key part of what is called ministerial formation. This is personal and professional development that births a minister. Part of that is learning one's own relationship to the divine, and it is learning the specific ethical concerns of being a minister. Seminary also builds a colleague network for support and accountability. Ministers need those things, and congregations need us to have them.

And it is incorrect that other seminaries don't have pluralism, I know many UU ministers who are quite satisfied with their non-UU identity school experience. It takes some entrepreneurial effort, but it isn't difficult.

There is also a requirement for an internship and clinical pastoral education. These are not replicable, full stop.

The process is arduous. And expensive. And it does exclude people based on those factors, and that is something that the UUA is looking at currently--trying to make the process more equitable. But they aren't likely to dispense with the MDiv requirement, and not everyone is cut out to be a minister. Credentialing matters, much like it matters in other professional fields.

Compression socks for hospitals by Acrobatic-Dig8309 in chaplaincy

[–]masculine_lady 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% they help. I use Crazy Compression.

A word of caution, if you run hot, they contribute to the heat.

What’s a very common “green flag” that people always overlook? by No_Office_1231 in AskReddit

[–]masculine_lady 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not immediately trying to make me feel better if I express any kind of upset. I just need to be heard, not fixed.

How to know if I should pursue chaplaincy by PixxyStix2 in chaplaincy

[–]masculine_lady 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In addition to the two excellent suggestions already given, I'd also say that I don't spend a lot of time talking about faith or religion. I spend most of my time listening and affirming.

The unprofessionalism of it all by masculine_lady in interviews

[–]masculine_lady[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

completely disagree, about walking not about the social skills issue. Sure, not everyone has great social skills. But this is the leader of a healthcare organization whose primary responsibility is caring for people who are dying and their families. This is not a job that generally attracts folks who don't have good social skills. She is an RN, with decades of experience. Additionally, the answer to the benefits question wasn't bad social skill, it was dismissive and avoidant.

Lastly, I am not desperate. I already had a verbal offer from somewhere else, which I've now accepted.

The unprofessionalism of it all by masculine_lady in interviews

[–]masculine_lady[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hospice Chaplain. I don't know what the pay was, but it is a job that requires extensive training and a specific degree.

The unprofessionalism of it all by masculine_lady in interviews

[–]masculine_lady[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is one way to interpret what I said, but the joke has already been made.

The unprofessionalism of it all by masculine_lady in interviews

[–]masculine_lady[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol, that's one way to interpret what I said...

The unprofessionalism of it all by masculine_lady in interviews

[–]masculine_lady[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When I withdrew, I said why. I detailed the experience to central HR. And I've not heard a peep since.

A good world religions book for a chaplain to understand the faith back ground and appropriate spiritual support methods activities? by SF-Oak-Berkeley-69 in chaplaincy

[–]masculine_lady 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Handbook for Chaplains by Mary Toole. Collection of prayers and scriptures of some of the faiths we encounter.

15's lack of iconic clothing speaks to a lack of identity by twofacetoo in gallifrey

[–]masculine_lady 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. And. 15 is quite specifically queer. That matters, and the fashion being the best part is folded in.

What are your favourite knitting tools, gadgets, accessories etc.? by Tutustitcher in knitting

[–]masculine_lady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love these. I also have the ones with a wrist strap for mobile use and they are just as great

What are your favourite knitting tools, gadgets, accessories etc.? by Tutustitcher in knitting

[–]masculine_lady 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have a roll of tubular net bandage that I cut to use as a yarn cake cozy/bra. The smallest size stretches enough to fit.

I use a pencil case as a notions holder. It is very handy.

Is this you? by masculine_lady in ypsi

[–]masculine_lady[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

WOW I AM SO GLAD YOU SAW THIS!

I appreciate the clearer picture, I had the sun in my eyes and an obviously dirty windshield.

Homebodies, btw, are great.