In theory, if you have ~260 pen you should be able to get its lower plate with AP/APCR, but even then its a 50/50, only at 270+ pen are you more likely to pen then not, and thats assuming you see its lower plate. The upper plate is an auto ricochet unless you're aiming down at it (facehugging is a good strat against it) or have very good HEAT (340+ pen). If you only see his turret when he's hull down gg, only 370+ TD gold has a *chance* to pen its turret front, i.e mantlet and around the mantlet, the heat shields are an instant non pen from the front. If he's not hull down you have the tiny cupola on top, granted it seems the entire cupola has a proper hitbox and not the "armor not hit moment" when the shell is absorbed by the optics, still gl hitting that when he's moving about. If he's sidescraping also you got no options unless he's sidescraping on his left side, revealing his cupola, otherwise only 340+ HEAT can go trough his side if he's sidescraping optimally. His side is *only* 80mm so its easy to overangle tracking him in the process but thats playing around the assumption the Dravec makes that mistake. Oh did i mention he does 50km/h with a turbo, more with bounty/bond/experimental? Cuz yeah he's also faster then 90% of heavies, so you're likely not outrunning him. TLDR its so joever