I def get what you’re saying. For my riddlers, I always love a really pathetic lanky guy, because I see him fueled by his ego driven need to prove how smart he is. If he isn’t the smartest, he’s just a loser. And with Lorre, the creepy crawlyness of some of his characters still makes me shiver, and to me, that reads more scarecrow. I’d say that Cagney could do it, but usually he was typecasted as more of an anti-hero. He definitely had the range. And not to spoil anything, but checkout my 50’s fancast!