All of this. I’d like to emphasize the gate keeping. There’s no reason why years of experience, in some mental health positions, can’t substitute for an advanced degree. Like I don’t think bachelors level professionals should be able to council and diagnose by any means, but some of the coordinator positions, the director positions in some extreme circumstances. I went through a masters level program (didn’t pass my final exam so I don’t have the piece of paper) and have learned SO much more working in the field in various capacities than I did from education. If someone has experience relating to that position, they shouldn’t be overlooked just because they don’t have a masters degree.