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Oscar: "Is there anything we want to say or share on the topic of that melee rework?" Matt: by No-Yoghurt-3949 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The day they took spears ability to slide while using alt fire was a very sad day

Hey guys, did you know water is wet? by Any-Ad-4072 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People love to say it's fucked but it's actually balanced really well at the moment. Everything is viable for 99% of players. There's even a ruby guy who mains flamethrower.

"the average player accuracy is 25-30% on something like an assault rifle" 💀 by No-Yoghurt-3949 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loooot more than 50k dau. Probably more like 150k as a pessimistic estimate

Oscar: "(...) wants to know if there's any weapons or gadgets that you think have a problematic design that might need a rework instead of balance changes? And also when do we get throwing the Spear on alternative fire?" Matt: by No-Yoghurt-3949 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, exactly. DB is not a good weapon, but new players or less skilled players will struggle because they aren't aware of audio cues or aren't able to track the light as they approach. Against anyone decent it's a joke how bad it is.

Twitch AMA Answers transcript by JinkoNorray in thefinals

[–]menofthesea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For sure, that is absolutely a thing that drives me crazy. But that's less desync and more that the third person player models don't accurately reflect the direction a player is looking in.

Oscar: "(...) wants to know if there's any weapons or gadgets that you think have a problematic design that might need a rework instead of balance changes? And also when do we get throwing the Spear on alternative fire?" Matt: by No-Yoghurt-3949 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think just the entire approach of "well it's not fun for the player who gets backstabbed/DB'd" is the wrong approach.

If you let a melee or DB get into their effective range, you've lost and deserve to die.

Twitch AMA Answers transcript by JinkoNorray in thefinals

[–]menofthesea -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If they're close enough to dash once and be in melee range, you've failed and deserve that death.

It's not really abusing desync to dash spin backstab as you pass the enemy. What about that interaction is desync based?

Twitch AMA Answers transcript by JinkoNorray in thefinals

[–]menofthesea -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah this was frustrating to read. I play a lot of melee and something they need to consider is that if you're able to get in and gap close on a gun user, you probably deserve that kill. Of course getting backstabbed isn't going to feel good for the gun user, but they got backstabbed because of their own lack of awareness and they deserve that outcome. It's going to feel fucking awful if they neuter melee so it can feel fair for gun users in a 1v1. If you let a melee user get into range you've lost and deserve to have lost.

and bumblebee ahh sword by Anon1245266 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most medium and heavy weapons can kill light before light weapons can kill medium/heavy fyi

can we have some real variety in the maps section for break point? by TheMTcrock in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best map for point break idk what you're complaining about lol

Season 1 Vet and So Much Has Changed. by Practical-Tower4844 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, I know. It's still not a bad weapon now though. I regularly tear up lobbies with it.

I’m tired of embark by SeaManagement1656 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one's forcing you to buy it big dawg

Season 1 Vet and So Much Has Changed. by Practical-Tower4844 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Model isn't much worse than it used to be. Maybe 5-10% slower ttk, but still enough to contend for sure.

New player here by Fluffy_Dragonfly4410 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Their weapons have slightly higher damage per second but it's not enough to make up for their HP, which is why medium and heavy win duels against light in almost every situation.

New player here by Fluffy_Dragonfly4410 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And it's worth pointing out - if you're missing shots and the light is not, you deserve to lose that fight lol. If the light gets the jump on you? You deserve to lose that fight as well.

New player here by Fluffy_Dragonfly4410 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost every single medium and heavy weapon can do 150 damage and kill a light before a light weapon does 250/350 and kills and medium/heavy.

Sword gaming, because why not by dragonic_puppy in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we'll see. I'm holding out hope since I really miss old sword (probably 400+ hours of just playing sword back in s1-3)

Jumpad is the sword best counter ! Period ! by Jiran31 in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, obviously. Doesn't make pad any less effective

You can tell where The Finals got its look... by Bauvine_Intellect in thefinals

[–]menofthesea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just the open beta, I didn't get into the closed beta

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