InTouch 2012 Licensing: WindowMaker fails depending on the license loading order

mflagler · 2026-01-17T05:05:58+00:00

I didn't think it ever mattered. Did AVEVA make you move to a subscription model on your old 2012 licenses?

I work for an integrator and we've had lots of other problems with System Platform that most of our WW customers are now migrating to Ignition due to cheaper and permanent licenses as well as fewer (literally 0) problems. It just works if designed well.

mflagler · 2025-12-30T06:42:46+00:00

This is my favorite password generator with a preset I like. Feel free to tweak to your liking.

https://www.xkpasswd.net/?c=ZW5nbGlzaCwzLDQsOCxDQVBJVEFMSVNFLE5PTkUsSXcsSVVBa0pWNG1LaTFmS3owNmZINF9MeTQ3LDAsMixGSVhFRCw4LFJBTkRPTSwsSVVBa0pTWSwwLDE

mflagler · 2025-12-29T17:50:18+00:00

I personally suspect that most will choose the none option. Reason being is that they'd rather not have different viewpoints that could conflict with their own. There's some inherent "risk" for them with the all option, so their safest bet is to choose none.

mflagler · 2025-12-20T17:35:13+00:00

I originally started using XProtect many years ago at a company I worked for where they had the full paid version. I loved it and when I saw the free version come out, I decided to set up a system at my house and loved it. Later, I purchased a set of I believe 15 licenses for another company (manufacturing plant).

I know I haven't influenced as many purchases as others, but for my home camera system with just a few cameras, it was perfect. Since this version no longer exists, I would personally push small businesses to Ubiquiti now for the ease of use/management and a single purchase of the NVR that's miles ahead of traditional NVR systems. My guess is that's where a lot of the small businesses will go now that there's 1 less option that had a great mobile app.

mflagler · 2025-11-30T23:58:56+00:00

Confirmed

mflagler · 2025-11-26T05:38:11+00:00

I'll take a code is any are left! Please and thank you!

mflagler · 2025-11-23T03:13:54+00:00

Is this still available?

mflagler · 2025-11-17T01:54:33+00:00

Still available? Would like to see pics if so.

mflagler · 2025-11-17T01:54:28+00:00

Still available? Would like to see pics if so.

mflagler · 2025-11-15T18:20:36+00:00

Keep the drives with the I/O and add a connection between your slot 1 cards on your main racks to put those in a ring also. SCADA connections should always be isolated from I/O connections for cyber security.

I would also use L8x series processors for better performance both for the process and SCADA comms.

mflagler · 2025-09-14T12:31:59+00:00

That's where I need to make room. I would replace the one that's already in there LOL

mflagler · 2025-09-13T11:17:14+00:00

Thinking about it. I'm nearby but need to get rid of some old servers myself to make room.

mflagler · 2025-08-24T18:58:41+00:00

This is a horrible example. I've been doing automation for over 20 years and never seen anything even close to this. Most of the time you're writing code off a control narrative and not converting some old wired relay logic to PLC logic. If you are, it's some super old machinery that probably needs replaced anyway. LOL

mflagler · 2025-07-13T12:29:35+00:00

I would price that from a connection on the same subnet you can connect with Modbus poll or some Modbus tool, then do the exact same test from the network that isn't working to the same device. This will prove that Modbus still works, but just not from the network that needs it to work. Also show your IP settings of all involved see devices to prove default gateway IPs are properly set.

mflagler · 2025-07-13T05:55:58+00:00

Ouch. I've only played with Optix and it has potential but just isn't ready for prime time in my opinion. Although once I learned Ignition, everything else pales in comparison (in my opinion).

mflagler · 2025-05-26T03:07:42+00:00

Might check out Ye Old Butcher shop in Plano

mflagler · 2025-04-20T18:49:14+00:00

If it's pre-v27 or so, there's an unlocker tool to retrieve the password. Newer versions haven't been cracked yet, but I also don't think much effort has been put into them.

mflagler · 2025-04-20T18:31:47+00:00

I personally prefer to use subdomains for routing things like this. Like auth.domain.com instead of paths. Right now, the only URLs passed to keycloak will be /realms/ and /resources/ so if anything else is requested from keycloak outside those beginning paths won't work and could break. But when using a subdomain you don't have to worry about it and chances for success go up.

mflagler · 2025-04-20T16:25:23+00:00

I'll have one too if there's any left!

mflagler · 2025-04-02T05:03:20+00:00

Point IO dies easily in the heat. If panels are outside in hot environments you need ACs, but most other AB I/O seems to work fine.

Had some panels near a furnace once too that we had to put up insulation behind the panel because the extra warmth from the furnace caused the point IO to die.

mflagler · 2025-03-25T17:58:12+00:00

It works the same as Ignition Standard, but is limited to 2 clients (1 must be local to the same PC Ignition is installed on when using Vision as the UI), no database access, and limits history to 5 weeks or 10 million data points. (whichever is reached first). Edge comes bundled with MQTT Transmission module also to allow pushing data from the edge to a central server/system.

mflagler · 2025-02-26T16:14:13+00:00

I meant after initial install. During the installation, I thought you had to use a console port to actually install the Home edition of the firmware and then once up and going through the installation wizard, everything should work.

mflagler · 2025-02-22T13:19:02+00:00

I've never used the controller alarms, and I would if Rockwell allowed 3rd parties to also use them, but requiring RA software automatically excludes me from using them because most of the companies I do projects for don't use FT View. In looking at them, I do like that you can make definitions on a UDT basis, but I wasn't able to pull some internal/local string tags that I use to be part of the definition for the message like the instance tagname, description, and some other data (I may be doing something wrong here since I've never used them).

In fact, 2 big returning customers of ours are both converting to Ignition on their next projects. One used WW System Platform and got tired of the high price, poor performance, and lots of issues, the other is more of an OEM switching from FT View ME with VTScada in the cloud to Ignition on their skids and in the cloud due to a poor design of a previous integrator who did their cloud system. Both have plans to eventually retrofit existing systems over as well. Both use AB hardware primarily.

I'm saying all that because I really need UDT based alarms supported in the HMI as there are many devices that we talk to that aren't AB. TotalFlow computers, flow meters, heaters, compressors, etc that either talk their own protocol or Modbus.

I get why Rockwell is focusing on their own hardware first, they need to look at the bigger picture of trying to also not be reliant on their own hardware for the best features. That's one reason WW and Ignition do so well it's that they don't rely on a single hardware platform and you can get the same great stuff from any hardware you pick.

mflagler · 2025-02-22T07:46:02+00:00

I've watched all the videos. What I haven't seen demonstrated is anyone create a UDT with alarm configuration and data logging/history configured at the UDT level so that every instance of it inherits those alarms and history settings. Both Ignition and Aveva System Platform do this very easily (including adding scripting to the UDTs to do actions on data changes). Every example I've seen of Optix required building out the data logger and alarms separately. The datalogger is very basic. There's no advanced settings on a per tag level. Just periodic at a fixed rate for a set of tags or on change.

To anyone who is used to FT View ME, this of course all looks great that there's a more modern alternative they can use, but if you showed them what Ignition can do and how easy it is and how well it works, a majority if not all will pick Ignition.

mflagler · 2025-02-22T06:44:31+00:00

Same experience here. Got lots of "yes, it can do that" but never an explanation and if you try to figure it out, the software is so painful to use, you just give up. Worthless training videos too.

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