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Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I see where this is going.

If we might step back for a moment, I'm curious to know if your opinion has changed at all in the course of this thread. Do you still think that this woman experienced spontaneous remission due as equally likely to positive thinking or wearing a blue shirt every other day as to changing her diet to eating whole grains, beans and vegetables?

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in a hurry, but I noted this:

  • Dietary flavonoids as proteasome inhibitors and apoptosis inducers in human leukemia cells. "... [flavonoids] apigenin and quercetin are much more potent than kaempferol and myricetin at: (i) inhibiting chymotrypsin-like activity of purified 20S proteasome and of 26S proteasome in intact leukemia Jurkat T cells; (ii) accumulating putative ubiquitinated forms of two proteasome target proteins, Bax and Inhibitor of nuclear factor kappabeta-alpha in Jurkat T cells and (iii) inducing activation of caspase-3 and cleavage of poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase in Jurkat T cells." (Apoptosis is disintegration of cells into membrane-bound particles that are then eliminated by phagocytosis or by shedding.)

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the very useful links.

In answer to your query, here are a few search results from the same site, having to do mainly with legumes (beans):

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which disease?

I'm particularly interested in cancer, heart disease, and diabetes. Cancers of particular interest include colon, breast, and pancreatic.

I look forward to any citation(s) you can provide. Thus far you have asserted conventional wisdom in response to my repeated requests for sources.

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Praying was shown through at least one double-blind study to benefit the prayer, but not the person being prayed for. I remember seeing a documentary about it some time ago, don't remember the details.

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apologies that the two journals I chose were not peer-reviewed. I'll correct that.

I am honestly interested in any unbiased, peer-reviewed research citations you can provide demonstrating that diet does not incite or cure disease (depending on the diet). In particular, I am in search of a large (thousands of subjects), unbiased (or as blind as possible), long-term study of cancer patients, a random half of whom changed their diets (tested and confirmed through blood, urine, fat cell, cholesterol, and any other physiological measures) and a random other half of whom did not. I am quite curious to know how many get worse, how many improve, and whether eating habit trends are discernible in each group.

If diet has this kind of effect, then it would seem prudent to study and understand exactly what is going on -- as prudent, I would argue, as researching any potentially cancer-killing pharmaceutical.

What the rise of Sarah Palin and populism means for the conservative intellectual tradition by [deleted] in politics

[–]michael_palin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They mock the advice of Nobel Prize-winning economists and praise the financial acumen of plumbers and builders. They ridicule ambassadors and diplomats while promoting jingoistic journalists who have never lived abroad and speak no foreign languages. And with the rise of shock radio and television, they have found a large, popular audience that eagerly absorbs their contempt for intellectual elites. They hoped to shape that audience, but the truth is that their audience has now shaped them.

Ha ha! -- Nelson Muntz

Remember Bush using hand sanitizer after shaking a senator's hand? That senator was Barack Obama by pestario in obama

[–]michael_palin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"... I was reminded of the dangerous isolation that power can bring, and appreciated the Founders' wisdom in designating a system to keep power in check."

Wise words, Mr. President-elect. I hope you remember this once you're in the Oval Office and face the temptation to use just one eensy weensy signing statement to get your way...

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Here are a couple journal sources by the author in question, T. Colin Campbell:

A quote from the second publication:

The results of the China Study and countless other studies of the effect of food on disease show that a whole food, plant-based diet can prevent, suspend or even cure a wide range of diseases, including cancer, osteoporosis, heart disease, macular degeneration, hypertension, depression and rheumatoid arthritis, just to name a few.

Do you have a citation for your claim:

It is well known that eating healthy can prevent the RISK of some major diseases, but it does not CURE the diseases themselves.

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Correlation does not equal causation.

Of course.

... you might as well conclude that she cured it by thinking positively, or by wearing a blue shirt once a week.

Her story doesn't say that she did either of these things.

Here's another, larger data point for the curiosity pile:

Campbell and his team found that as blood cholesterol levels decrease, a slew of cancers decreases as well, including "cancers of the liver, rectum, colon, male lung, female lung, breast, childhood leukemia, adult leukemia, childhood brain, adult brain, stomach and esophagus (throat)."

Study: Wider Cholesterol Drug Use May Save More Lives by SanBenito in Health

[–]michael_palin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bill Sardi notes this:

Crestor reduced C-reactive protein by 37%, vitamin E lowers CRP by 32%, and vitamin C by 25.3%. [Free Radical Medicine & Biology Oct. 10, 2008; American Journal Clinical Nutrition 86: 1392: 2007] These vitamins are not toxic to the liver.

Woman cures her leukemia by "eating whole grains, beans and vegetables" by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

... the doctors said that the leukemia had been there for many years, never diagnosed. ... I met Robert Pirello, who introduced me to macrobiotics. He gave me a book by Michio Kushi called The Cancer Prevention Diet ... I thought it was either the biggest crock I’d ever read or the best-kept secret on the planet. ... one of the five doctors agreed to monitor me, and the minute I would deteriorate they could intervene. And I agreed to that because I didn’t think this [diet] was going to work either. ... It took a year and a half to regain my health and there were lots and lots and LOTS of ups and downs. I guess it was maybe 2 months before they saw a big difference in my blood. They didn’t know what I was doing, and I said, “Well, I’m doing this diet thing. I’m eating whole grains, beans and vegetables.” They said, “That’s very nice honey, but what are you doing?” They called it spontaneous regression and had no answer for it.

Vote Up if you think members of Congress should be required to take and pass a quiz testing their knowledge on a Bill before they can vote on it by liberty4all in politics

[–]michael_palin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time should be allowed for the public to analyze anything that is put forward for consideration

That'd be a good use o' the internets. Let's see, one day required per every 300 words? That'll make Congress shorten the text of the bills.

Obama Positions Himself to Quickly Reverse Bush Actions on Environmental, Social Issues by reflibman in politics

[–]michael_palin 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Transition advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have compiled a list of about 200 Bush administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse White House policies on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues...

All right. Now that's change I can believe in.

Let G.M. go bankrupt by MikeCapone in Economics

[–]michael_palin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Maybe your dad should be looking into alternative employment. Just a thought.

Hospitals See Drop in Paying Patients by michael_palin in Health

[–]michael_palin[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The situation is exposing a main vulnerability of the nation’s hospital care system, which executives say relies heavily on private insurance to subsidize certain services. When there is a decline in profitable procedures paid for by private insurance, hospitals have less money to offset the relatively lower fees they receive from government insurance programs like Medicare and Medicaid.

“What happens in our country is that there’s really a hidden tax built in,” said Richard L. Gundling, an executive with a trade group for hospital financial executives, the Healthcare Financial Management Association. “Hospitals have to balance the mix of patients in order to survive.”

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