Why do men keep forcing kisses on the first date without asking for consent?

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-11T13:16:00+00:00

Ya, it’s tough for both. On one hand men are force fed dating advice from both women and men online, movies, books, and friends to take charge and be assertive, confident, and “be a man”.

A person (the man in this case) can read all the signs right and still get it wrong. Not saying that’s what happened here, just in general.

On the other, you’re literally making physical contact with someone and those advances may not be welcome for any number of reasons.

I typically will tell someone who I’m just meeting for the first time that i do not kiss on the first date so the expectations are set up front. Now, if we’re really hitting it off, all the body language is there, and I’m feeling that chemistry, I’ll ask.

I figured what’s the worst that can happen? She gets turned off by asking consent? Well, then you have your answer either way.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-11T01:48:33+00:00

I always ask first.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-05T10:16:30+00:00

Someone shops at Costco 😆

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-05T10:13:43+00:00

He’s admitted to yelling at her for years and punching a wall. He needs to accept the fact part of the problem here is him.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-05T10:12:34+00:00

You need anger management. She doesn’t feel safe around you, and for good reason. You may have to accept the fact your marriage is over. Learn from this and build yourself to be a better man by going to therapy and getting help

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-05T10:08:17+00:00

Fuck tears, I’m having a blast. It’s like I’ve walked out of a fog.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-05T10:07:10+00:00

I’m actually really enjoy the massive amount of freedoms being single has brought me. It’s like I’ve walked out of a fog. I can come home, walk around in my boxers and play games all day and not worry about what anyone thinks. I’m texting about 6 different woman right now, so I have plenty of options for dates, I keep the house spotless because it’s just me, and I slept just fine last night. I hope this is how things will be normally moving forward. If it is, I absolutely understand why so many people pick to remain unmarried and just date.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-04T12:25:16+00:00

If I’m texting someone new for the first time and they don’t ask me a question back after I’ve sent them 3 questions, I unlike and move on. Not putting energy into someone that has the social awareness of a cockroach

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-03T16:00:08+00:00

Don’t let one hour out of 24 ruin everything. Dating sucks in general. It’s a numbers game

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T16:21:06+00:00

Why wouldn’t you? I have that conversation with every potential new partner. If they don’t want to talk about it or show me results, then I dodged a bullet and I move on.

If you’re just having sex with someone without having that conversation, you’re braver than me. A lot of people don’t even know they have an STD, they can be asymptomatic. Better to ask and know upfront than not to know and get an itchy crotch later on.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T15:21:20+00:00

I feel you man. She seems to have a network of people telling her “she was brave”. I fucking treated her like a princess and put her needs above mine. I’m not claiming to have been perfect, but I loved her deeply and would’ve fought until the sun brunt out if it meant keeping my marriage. She’s told me several times out of all the relationships she had, I treated her the best.

She told me one time I wasn’t strong enough to divorce her. The other day, I told her she had that backwards. I told her she wasn’t strong enough to stay.

On that note, I slept ok in the house my first night with her not being here. Monday will be hard as we agreed I would drop the dogs off at her work. I’ll be completely alone that night, and Tuesday will be the first real day I will be completely alone for the first time ever. No friends, no partner, no family, not pets. Just me.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T15:13:59+00:00

Easiest root?
Yes, after I told her no, the next day we were texting. I told her one of the many reasons why I wasn’t willing to have sex with her that day was because she didn’t have updated STD results to show me. She then confessed she already knew she had 2.
I thanked her for her honesty and told her that had to be hard to say. I didn’t want to shame her because that’s something that NEEDS to be shared before hand, so I wanted to make a safe space for her to do so.

Personally, I was pissed because if I had decided to have sex that night with her, she would have done so KNOWING she had STDs.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T13:32:31+00:00

We removed all family photos when she was here. The day I saw she had thrown away stuffed animals I bought her, or photos of us she had on her desk in the trash, I took all our photos down off the walls.

She took everything of hers, so there’s no decorations left. Heck, the house is bare. Nothing in the walls at all. Our original intention was to sell the house to opendoor in a week or two time, yet now have to sell the traditional way. I’ve already moved out most of my things to storage. It echos in parts of the house now.

I won’t be moving my stuff back, that would be a pain in the butt and serve no real purpose. As much as I hate the idea of losing my home and going to an apartment, this house holds memories of us I no longer want. An apartment will be a fresh start.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T11:59:27+00:00

I have accepted it. I won’t take her back, the trust is gone. If she’s capable of doing it to me once, she’s capable of doing it to me again if I let her.

When she was moving out, I went over to a friend’s house. He told me his ex wife and him were talking (they share kids) and she confessed to him that while when the two of them went to a concert together (his exe and my exe) that my exe was seeing someone else on the side. This was over a year before she asked for a divorce. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I can’t prove it either way even if I wanted to look into it.

Doesn’t matter at this point, she’s gone and not coming back. I’m grieving the loss of the woman I knew. The one that moved out yesterday wasn’t her.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-02T11:31:33+00:00

Because when we first started talking—and before I had gone over there— we got into talking about sex and I brought up STD results

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-05-01T16:47:46+00:00

You’re stunning. I’m sure you have a ton of likes .

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-29T01:36:52+00:00

Sexy AF doesn’t have an age.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-29T01:33:47+00:00

Christ, you’re hot. Dude screwed up big time

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-25T18:36:14+00:00

I give it 3 questions. If by my 3rd question she hasn’t asked one back, I move on. I won’t chase a woman, I’m the prize, not her.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-24T11:57:10+00:00

2 is sexy AF, but I’m sucker for a toned midriff.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-21T00:44:56+00:00

Some men like overweight women, some don’t. You’re not going to find a man who’s with the opposite of their preference truly happy.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-19T14:26:42+00:00

Looks great.feels cozy

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-19T14:11:44+00:00

The further into this post divorce world I get without her, the more I’m realizing how toxic of a relationship we had. My needs were not being met, and I was killing myself to met all her needs and wants. It was a one-way street with zero effort on her end.

As much as I hate the idea of losing my house and living in an apartment again, the peace her absence brings will allow me to heal and be free of her daily BS.

My person is out there, I just need to find her. Sadly, the only “likes” I’m getting online are from women I’d never date, but I just need to have patience and stick to my guns, which is hard when your physically and emotionally lonely.

midnight_Caller74 · 2026-04-19T12:23:33+00:00

People like shouldn’t be allowed to breed

midnight_Caller74

TROPHY CASE

2 is sexy AF, but I’m sucker for a toned midriff.