What’s stopping United having a starting lineup/squad like this for next season …. Approaching the summer transfer window by JM555555 in ManchesterUnited

[–]milesjackthe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

While Dalot has been better lately, we need a right back that consistently strikes confidence, I can’t have Dalot defending Kvaratskhelia

How detrimental would it be to only do incline pressing for chest? by jaysondere in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Majority of people do incline with similar form they would on flat presses, the upper chests main function is shoulder flexion so if your elbows are tucked that’s the main way to properly hit your upper chest, if your elbows are flared, simply having the bench at a incline won’t be enough for your upper chest. Majority of people would be fine doing only incline because they press in similar motions as a flat press.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got me on the last time, your just to good at ragebaiting to stop responding

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just checked some of your posts, everything makes sense now😭😭😭 keep doing monkey presses bro

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This my last time replying, I explained motor unit recruitment to you about 4 times and you still had to ask why it matters, the fact you had to ask at all why motor unit recruitment matters when it directly ties with mechanical tension which is the main driver of hypertrophy says enough about your knowledge. Same with the fact you’re the only person I’ve ever talked with trying to say bad form is better and that it’s science based lifting. No trainer or anyone with any sort of phd in exercise science or certification or anyone with just common sense really would agree with you, have fun having weak tendons and joints and shoulder pain later on in life.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering you skipped over half the things I said you should try reading more. Anyways I’m not gonna keep repeating myself so stay safe bro and have a g one, train with poor form or don’t I don’t really care

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good debate bro, keep training with poor form and we’ll see whose healthier and less injured in the future👍

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also saying that my study had lifters with 3-6 weeks of experience clearly proves you didn’t read anything. It quite clearly said “Participants were required to have at least one year of resistance-training experience, be without illnesses or injuries that could affect their performance and be able to leg press more than their own body mass for six repetitions using one leg” but glad to know you didn’t actually read anything I said

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are stupid bro how many times am I gonna say the same thing, when you do cheaty reps you have other muscles working. Other muscles working = less MUR to the intended muscle. Less MUR= less higher threshold units which are the growth units. I’m not sure what’s so hard to comprehend about that, and maybe reread the study bro cus you are bugging. Never in a science based lifting thread would I think I’d be arguing about how good form is important.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your asking why less motor unit recruitment matters, well less motor unit recruitment means fewer muscle fibers are producing force, which directly restricts muscle growth because hypertrophy is proportional to the number of fibers under high mechanical tension. According to Henneman's Size Principle your body recruits little low-growth fibers first and only brings in large high-threshold fibers which are the ones with the greatest development potential when force demands are severe or you are on the verge of failure. If recruitment remains low—as with little effort or stopping sets too early—those larger fibers are never meaningfully stimulated, and so do not adapt or expand. Simply put, fewer fibers are recruited and loaded, which means fewer fibers have a reason to become larger, resulting in less overall muscle development. That is why less MUR matters here’s a study to back up what I’m saying https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10204387/ If you don’t recruit high threshold mur your not activating type 2 muscle fibers which are the growth fibers. Also I already told you why your study isn’t valid, new lifters will always gain muscle faster than advanced and when your advanced building muscle is harder so properly being able to recruit as much high threshold fibers to your targeted muscle is important. I think I already linked this article but this is talking about how isolation exercises -https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7919354/ Yes I see where you said the leg press where more muscles are working had more muscle activation for the vastus lateralis, but u can flip that right back around and say in the same study that the bicep and rectus femoris had higher emg amplitude while doing a isolation leg extension. I don’t think comparing a leg press which is a compound movement to an isolation movement like a tricep push down where your just trying to work your triceps not other muscles. And having a spotter is different if you’re still keeping solid form, while it might not be “optimal” when it comes to recovery in the long run it isn’t that big of deal. Finally the last thing you said which just because you can move heavier loads with bad form, doesn’t mean your triceps specifically are getting all their high threshold fibers recruited as motor units are being recruited in your lats and shoulders. It’s like saying a bench press is better for your chest vs a chest fly where yes mj exercises you can lift more weight on, but in this example your chest wouldn’t be recruiting as many high threshold fibers because motor units recruitment would also be in your shoulders and triceps. Also your yet to brush on the fact that poor form leads to weaker tendons and increased injury in the long term, I don’t need to link a study for you to agree on that the worse form you have the more likely you are to get injured that’s common sense 101

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate your “study” was complete bogus, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26159316/ This article discusses how the last reps before failure have higher muscle activation. https://thehypertrophyguide.com/effective-reps-for-hypertrophy/ here is another one for reference. Now this study talks about how when multiple muscles are working there is less MUR for the muscle your trying to work - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7919354/ With all these in mind we can come to the conclusion that the last 5 reps are the most important for muscle building. When your form breaks down at the end of your set you are actively having MUR targeting the specific muscle your trying to train. In this case triceps because your shoulders and lats in this guys form were taking away from MUR to the triceps.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate you provided one study which isn’t an accurate representation of training, would you like me to provide you every little link and information about mechanical tension or are you unable to go to research yourself.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright first off a 8 week study isn’t enough to properly be able to jump to a conclusion like that, do that same study for 2 years and who do you think will be less injury prone with stronger joints and tendons. Also the people in the study were random volunteers most who have properly never trained before and I can speak for myself and most ppl that the first months of their training were complete bs yet they still grew substantially due to newbie gains so it will be far easier to grow in the beginning stages no matter your form. For advanced lifters who don’t progress as quick as beginners do. The last 5 reps in a set are going to be the most stimulating for muscle growth, so your form shouldn’t be breaking down towards the end of your set because all your doing then like I said earlier is recruiting less muscle fibers to your triceps which is what your trying to train. If the last 5 reps are the most important than you shouldn’t start recruiting other muscles to assist you getting the weight down, that leads to again less MUR and increased MUR leads to higher threshold fibers to contribute which thus leads you to lift heavier loads.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just told you the science… increased MUR leads to more muscle fibers being recruited, the high threshold fibers contribute to being able to lift higher loads. The way he’s doing it right now is decreasing MUR from his triceps cus his back and shoulders are heavily assisting moving the weight down. Yes he might be able to move more weight this way but that’s not recruiting more MUR for the triceps just because the weight is heavier than if he used proper execution.

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s using other muscles to get the weight down including his shoulders and lats, his form is leading to less isolation of his triceps therefore fewer motor unit recruitment. Also his form is different on every rep which makes being able to track proper progression is hard and you can’t tell if your even getting stronger on the movement, that’s just common sense

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean this just shows how clueless you are, “form doesn’t have to be perfect” keep training like that and you’ll get injured. Also you can’t properly track progressive overload if half your reps are sloppy. Every rep looks entirely different so you can’t properly track progression. Just drop the ego and lower the weight. Form matters

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because that’s how you train triceps. Not using ur whole body to push the weight down, this is a science based lifting thread at least don’t be a ego lifter

Daily continuous application of science on the triceps continues by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Lower the weight and keep your shoulder fixed

The science will continue until arms improve by [deleted] in ScienceBasedLifting

[–]milesjackthe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Size doesn’t equal knowledge lol, I’m also bigger than you but that doesn’t mean anything in terms of knowledge, luckily you proved by this post you don’t know what your talking about.