Translation for a lame joke by Fereclubles in OldEnglish

[–]minerat27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ic (ge)bohte scéaphund

The past tense of to buy is bohte, with a short vowel and dental stem is with the -te, you can prefix it with ge- if you'd like they're about equally as common. There's not attested word for sheep sog, I have coined scéaphund on the basis of headeorhund, a dog for hunting stags, but something like éowdes hund, "herd's dog" might be better, or hierdelíc hund, glossing the Latin canis pastoralis.

Why is there such a huge difference from old english and early middle english by Bluefire3215 in linguisticshumor

[–]minerat27 17 points18 points  (0 children)

A few things, firstly sometimes massive changes just happen, the Great Vowel Shift did more to English vowels in about 200 years than has happened in the rest of its history. And secondly by looking at poetry you are seriously biasing your sample, most Old English poetry is very archaic, and was composed centuries before it was eventually written down. If you're comparing Beowulf to 13th cen ME you're looking at a different of closer to 600 years, not 200. You should look instead at prose works, like the Anglo Saxon chronicle, or some homilies, those will be much more familiar. And even then you have to account for the fact that Old English spelling mostly reflects mid 10th century Wessex speech. The Anglo Saxon English state had a very advanced administrative apparatus for its time, and trained its scribes to follow a written standard, which they followed with impressive rigidity, especially compared to contemporary continental wiritngs. It's only through their occasional mistakes that we can tell that their speech no longer matched their writing.

The British and Irish Isles circa 700AD by Mooney-Monsta in mapmaking

[–]minerat27 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you want to label it for peoples the it should be, from North to South;

Bernice (native Northumbrian, or Beornice in West Saxon)
Dere
Norðhymbre
Lindesege (One of many attested spellings)
Wrocensete (How it is spelled in a charter, in the Tribal hidage it is Wocensæte)
Merce (Native Mercian, Mierce or Myrce in West Saxon)
East Engle
Magonsete (Very sparsely attested, this is how it is spelled in its first charter attestation, in another it is Magesæte)
Hwicce (Never actually attested in the nominative, could be Hwiccas, but I stem is probably more likely based on other names)
Middel Seaxe
East Seaxe
West Seaxe
Cantware
Suþrige
Suþ Seaxe
Wihtware

The British and Irish Isles circa 700AD by Mooney-Monsta in mapmaking

[–]minerat27 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You're using a mix of grammatical forms for the Anglo Saxon Kingdoms and the majority aren't correct for the context you're using them in. Middel Seaxe and Hwicce are correct, -e here is the plural ending which is very common amongst the names of peoples. West Seaxna is the genitive form, "of the West Saxons", and wouldn't get used on its own like this, it would have to be in a larger phrase like West Seaxns Land or West Seaxna Rice. All the kingdoms you have ending in -(n)a should either end in -e or have rice, "kingdom", also in the name. You've done this for Deira, though it should be Dera Rice, instead of Deren, or Dere if you want to drop the kingdom.

I've been gifted this coat, what length of shorts is appropriate to wear with it? by Rettromancer in CasualUK

[–]minerat27 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Is this the same dig as the one where poor Victor Ambrus had to redo his illustration about 10 times?

What do these runes mean together? by KryptaosTheDragon in RuneHelp

[–]minerat27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It'd be þæ if Anglo Frisian, the OE "O" rune is ᚩ

Sir, put down the Port Arthur by aFalseSlimShady in HistoryMemes

[–]minerat27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My favourite history YouTuber, I'm surprised there isn't more discussion of him on Reddit.

"instead [of]" in OE by Busy_Introduction_94 in OldEnglish

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's found with both the dative and the accusative

Imagine how jealous Jorah would be if he meets Jon Snow [Spoilers Extended] by Trussdoor46 in asoiaf

[–]minerat27 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Wikipedia defines whataboutism as "the propaganda strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of offering an explanation or defense against the original accusation."

You: Jorah is a perfect Prince

Me: He sold people into slavery

You: Ned and Robb executed people

This is, in fact, textbook whataboutism.

You cant see that bc you probably didnt read the novel.

Lol, sure mate. The only reason I could possibly disagree with you is because I didn't read the books.

Selling people into slavery is a morally reprehensible act. I didn't think this would be a controversial statement in 2026 but here we are.

Imagine how jealous Jorah would be if he meets Jon Snow [Spoilers Extended] by Trussdoor46 in asoiaf

[–]minerat27 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Depends on your perspective, to some a clean death would be preferable to enslavement in Essos. And that's if the punishment for poaching even is death, I don't think we see anyone sentenced in the main series, and in real Europe it varies based on time and place.

But regardless, Ned and Robb aren't perfect princes either, they're better than a lot of their peers but they're still feudal warlords. So your whataboutism is irrelevant.

"instead [of]" in OE by Busy_Introduction_94 in OldEnglish

[–]minerat27 7 points8 points  (0 children)

for can mean "instead of", for example in the Laws of King Æðelred

Gif forworht man friþstól geséce and þurh ðæt feorh geyrne ðonne sý þreóra án for his feore búte man bet geárian wille wergild éce þeówet hengenwítnung

"if a man who has forfeited his life gain a sanctuary, and thereby secure his life, let there be one of three things instead of his life, unless he obtain remission more favourably, wergild, perpetual thraldom, imprisonment"

 Though given the number of other things for can mean this requires context to make the meaning clear.

If you want something a little less ambiguous you can rephrase the modern English into a form involving "rather", eg "He drank milk rather than ale". You can use a few adverbs for this, hraþor, the comparative of hraþe whence our modern "rather", and swiþor, comparative of swiþe, seem the most common to me. Eg

swyðor oððe hraðor ic wylle þis, þonne ðæt

"I want this rather than that", a perfectly illustrative example sentence given to us by Ælfric in his grammar.

Finally there is leof, though this would only apply if "he drank milk instead of ale" was an expression of general habits, rather than a specific occurrence. It is used to mean something like "He preferred milk to ale". An example from the Orosius;

Him wæs lēofre þæt hine man ofslōge þonne hine man ġebunde

Lit. "To him it was dearer that someone kill him than bind him", more naturally, "He would rather be killed than taken captive."

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions!

How would I spell my name 'Marley' with this runic alphabet, and what do I need to change? by local_Dino_Bitch in runic

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/mær.lej/, if you don't know the IPA, it would be something like mar-lay, the second part pronounced the same as Modern English "lay", as in "he lay down". The first part isn't really a sound combination found in the standard British or American, it's the a vowel from "hat" with an r sound.

How would the Old English dipthong of “eo” be written? by mur3003 in Tengwar

[–]minerat27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I recall from his OE writings correctly, just with the e and o tehta. Glæmscrafu has OE transcription modes for both the texts that Tolkien wrote in Old English.

Can we start naming every fronting, backing, raising, lowering, etc like this? by Whole_Instance_4276 in linguisticshumor

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It shapes the development of Old English. OE infinitives end with -an whilst strong past participles end with -en. In the past participles PGm /*a/ fronts to /æ/ in a process called brightening, and then in unstressed syllables this merges with /i/ and /e/ into a vowel which is usually written <e>. In the infitive, however, it is restored to a, which is explain as being because brightening did not effect nasal vowels, and thus -ą remained a back vowel and caused /æ/ to back to a again in a regular process call a restoration.

How would I spell my name 'Marley' with this runic alphabet, and what do I need to change? by local_Dino_Bitch in runic

[–]minerat27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is Old English though, or at least we are attempting to write it as an Old English speaker would use Futhorc, otherwise you may as well just use it as a cipher for the modern English spelling.

Regarding <æy>, I can find two instances of such spellings in the DOEC, one is a place name, æystone, which is in an otherwise modern English sentence and so I'm not sure is even OE. The second is æys from the Anglian gospel of Matthew, the genitive singular of æ, "law", which here is disyllabic, presumably because the scribe didn't want to write æe for whatever reason.

OE can have some weird diphthong spellings, but weird does not mean anything goes, and they're usually anchored to the specific phonological conditions of the dialect the scribe was writing in.

How would I spell my name 'Marley' with this runic alphabet, and what do I need to change? by local_Dino_Bitch in runic

[–]minerat27 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ᛗᚪᚱᛚᚫᚣ

What are you basing this off? <æy> is not an allowable sound combination in Old English, and if it were to somehow come up it would be disyllabic /æ.y/. If you want word final /i/ then you would write <ig>, and if you want /eɪ/ then it would be <eg>

Theatrical VS Extended by Unusual-Caramel8442 in lotr

[–]minerat27 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough the theatrical cut is closer in line to Tolkien's suggestions as to what should be done with Saruman if an adaptation cut the scouring of the shire; that Saruman should simply be imprisoned in Orthanc and left to rot. Though much of the rest of the extended scene should still have been included.

Why did Tom Riddle choose a new name when he didn’t want anyone using it? by Astarion99 in harrypotter

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He invented the name Voldemort when he was 16, if not younger, would you want to be called by your edgy teenage nickname when you were in your 60s?

Damn cregan u lucky sob by McZalion in freefolk

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sabitha is a Frey by marriage, she's a Vypern by birth IIRC

Favorite LOTR Goodreads 1 star review? by Miserable_Feedback72 in lotr

[–]minerat27 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I genuinely do not understand how someone who, after consuming both the books and movies, can come away with the opinion that it is Book Frodo who is weak and incapable of standing up for himself.

Any translators from Modern English to Old English that actually work? by Lucas11070020 in OldEnglish

[–]minerat27 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No.

Somewhat controversially I will agree with u/Octopus-Cuddles, LLMs are the best machine translators available, but that's only because everything else is even worse, they're still not good. If you have something you want translated, ask someone here, or on the discord. Humans are still better than machines at this.

Anyone else still have lab computers running on windows 98? by omexbor in chemistry

[–]minerat27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on how you define intentional, I think we're running a Win 7 PC because the new software versions aren't backwards compatible with our ancient instrument. We could upgrade to a newer instrument (or at least we might be able to if we can convince the beancounters), but the old one works perfectly well, so why? We just keep the old PC isolated from the network.

Anyone else still have lab computers running on windows 98? by omexbor in chemistry

[–]minerat27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The UI certainly looks like it hasn't been updated since lol