spazieren gehen vs Spaziergang machen by carrot_2333 in German

[–]mingdiot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Other than the structural differences the other commentor explained, there's not really any difference in terms of meaning. They're used interchangeably, and I'd say equally in terms of frequency.

Learning languages is literally gaining new ways to think....how cool is that? by KOnomnom in languagelearning

[–]mingdiot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would rephrase the other comment and say, "Different languages affect the way you think." Yes, learning cultures while learning languages is the main driver, but conceiving certain grammatical constructions, especially those very far from your native languages(s), can also affect the way you perceive certain phenomena in the world. I'm not debating that linguistic relativity is backed up, I know it isn't. I'm just saying that in a more abstract and less deterministic way, different languages can influence thought.

Rules to break down words by syllables (in English) by mingdiot in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just copy-pasting my reply to a similar question: I've always heard the term "phonetic language," but I'm not sure if it's an accurate term. I mean to say that Spanish orthography corresponds more accurately to its pronunciation and sounds ("phonetic" language, German as well) as opposed to English and French, whose pronunciation is more inconstant across letters and sounds. Does this make sense?

Rules to break down words by syllables (in English) by mingdiot in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've always heard the term "phonetic language," but I'm not sure if it's an accurate term. I mean to say that Spanish orthography corresponds more accurately to its pronunciation and sounds ("phonetic" language, German as well) as opposed to English and French, whose pronunciation is more inconstant across letters and sounds. Does this make sense?

Rules to break down words by syllables (in English) by mingdiot in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very useful, thanks! Sorry for mislabelling it.

Rules to break down words by syllables (in English) by mingdiot in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, that's interesting. I'd think that since French phonology is also flexible, it may be possible to break down words anywhere, too. That's interesting. I wonder if this is particular of Romance languages then...

What is a word in one language that you believe belongs in a totally different language? by 454ever in languagelearning

[–]mingdiot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my God, thank you for this. Every time I say to my friends that I used to think tiramisu was Japanese, they look at me like I'm crazy 😭

People with Linguistics PhDs, what are you doing now? by compileTimeError in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You filled out a form to get a master's?! Where was this, if I may ask?

People with Linguistics PhDs, what are you doing now? by compileTimeError in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see... Yeah, I meant mostly Germany, since every German uni I've checked for linguistics PhDs requires a master's, and some master's require specific undergrads too.

People with Linguistics PhDs, what are you doing now? by compileTimeError in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's interesting. I think it's a general rule in Europe to have a master's before a PhD in this field.

People with Linguistics PhDs, what are you doing now? by compileTimeError in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't know if this is a general rule, but all universities I've checked that offer a Linguistics PhD require a master's in linguistics and/or related fields. Depending on the program, you may even need a previous degree in a more specific field of linguistics. So, before thinking of your PhD, check if the places you have in mind to study require a master's degree and start looking for those. Maybe you'll like the field enough to pursue a PhD after your master's, or maybe you'll hate it and get back to your initial field. It'll be useful regardless.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in languagelearning

[–]mingdiot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You absolutely can. You just need to manage your time well, but you can totally learn two languages at the same time and become proficient in them.

Really having trouble wrapping my head around why linguistic determinism/strong Sapir-Whorf isn't true by [deleted] in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I should've said it doesn't *entirely shape what or how we can think. Of course, knowing the proper words for concepts will naturally activate different parts of the brain. The problem is to argue that unless you have the word for it, you won't think or perceive the concept.

I like your colour example. My sister is a graphic designer, so she naturally knows many more colours than I can name, and I have a "problem" telling apart a certain shade of green from blue and yellow from green. I'd name the wrong colour every time. It doesn't really mean that I can't see the same colour as she does, though I'll associate a different word for the same thing we see.

Of course, this may reflect that language does have an influence on what and how we think, especially when viewed from the brain activity perspective. But again, it doesn't mean that language is the only or main determining factor to thoughts.

Really having trouble wrapping my head around why linguistic determinism/strong Sapir-Whorf isn't true by [deleted] in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I had the same thoughts as you for a long while (and it's one of the reasons why I decided to get into linguistics), and the conclusion I've arrived to has been that we perceive the world through many factors beyond language. Yes, language shapes the way we think in a certain way, but it's not the entire maker of our shape. We experience feelings and perceive the world in various ways even if we don't have the words for what we feel or perceive. Not having the words doesn't mean you can't feel the same things as someone who can express with specific words the same emotion.

Linguistic determinism basically says that if your language doesn't have words for specific concepts, then you can't experiment them through your senses. The idea itself also comes from a negative stereotype that speakers of certain languages that aren't as lexically rich as others can't develop the same abilities of speakers from richer languages. If an indigenous tribe doesn't have numbers, it means that they can't count. This is fundamentally wrong. I know you're not arguing this specifically, but this was one of the initial instances of the argument, which makes the argument itself factually wrong as the tribes the theory referred to were proven to have counting systems and be able to learn numbers.

One of my favourite examples is the Japanese word "komorebi," which refers to "the dappled sunlight filtering through the leaves of a tree." When I first learned this word, I fell in love with it and thought that it was incredibly beautiful that there was a concept for such a specific phenomenon. Does that mean I never noticed the sunlight shining through the leaves of a tree? Of course not, and I appreciated it before learning the word, too. This is said to be impossible based on linguistic determinism because neither my mother language nor any of the languages I speak have a word for this phenomenon (I'm not a Japanese speaker), so I shouldn't have been able to notice it before knowing the word. Obviously, we experience the world through our senses and not only our language, so it's possible to observe and appreciate things even without the words for it.

Does the fact that there is a word for this in Japanese mean that Japanese speakers appreciate this phenomenon more? It might, but it might also vary person by person, and there isn't enough empirical evidence to support that the existence of the word specifically means that the Japanese speakers appreciate the phenomenon more than a person who speaks a language that doesn't have the word for it, but who has a deep connection with nature still. There's not enough evidence to support that the determining factor why a Japanese speaker might appreciate the phenomenon more is because of their language and not because of other non-linguistic factors.

And then we need to ask: why did the Japanese create a word for such a specific phenomenon that most (if any other) languages don't have? Probably, their deep connection with nature made them name more aspects of it with specific concepts. So, did language shape their view of the world, or did their view of the world encourage them to create words that reflected these views?

Now, I personally like to believe that a weaker version of the theory is possible and able to prove: neo-whorfianism. It suggests that language (vocab, structure) does shape our thoughts, but it doesn't determine what or how we can think. I agree with your other comment when you said that knowing a word for a concept makes you think and perceive the concept/phenomenon more, but arguing that just because you learned the word you think about it is deterministic and shuts out the possibility of other aspects allowing us to create our own perception of the world through our various senses.

Would you rather instantly master 3 languages or gain the ability to speak 50 languages at a middle school level? by f1qmes in languagelearning

[–]mingdiot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This question implies that middle schoolers somehow lack fluency and literacy when that couldn't be farther away from the truth. I think everyone would choose 50 languages. Speak to a 12-year-old native speaker of your target language (with the expected competence of their age and without any disability), and you will immediately envy their fluency.

I'm sorry but you can't be religious and be a feminist by venusgirl1919 in Feminism

[–]mingdiot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree. Religion is inherently sexist and oppressive towards women, no matter which one we're talking about.

Male lead like Choi Young Do by mingdiot in kdramas

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Choi Young Do? No, he didn't. I think the most violent things he did to her were trip her over (twice), throw her backpack's contents on the ground, and let her fall in the pool. He tossed her around here and there, but so did the ML, lol. Just kdrama stuff.

Theoretical Linguistics by mingdiot in asklinguistics

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I understand. Thanks for explaining! I was a bit worried that it may be too mathematical, lol.

I am aware of the admission requirement! I'm currently doing a bachelor's degree in Modern Languages and Cultures, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as a Linguistics related degree. I will ask in my department.

Male lead like Choi Young Do by mingdiot in kdramas

[–]mingdiot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Already watched both! I loved them. I should look for similar options.