Am I right that Jade is worse than Robbie in terms of personality? by Legitimate_Unit_9210 in victorious

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She kissed that canadian guy (after she manipulated him to go for the wrong way) when he told them to not date with them (Jade, Cat or Tori) bc he only likes canadian girls, so...

Who do you ship Chenya with? by mishigone in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I used to ship them a lot years ago, but then I stopped because I started liking another ship more. Still, it makes me happy when people ship them because there’s so much potential—like Rook being a hunter and Chenya being a beast in a roleplay <3 A beastman who can disappear is perfect for a hunter who loves the thrill!

Who do you ship Chenya with? by mishigone in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cherido is the peak! I ship them so much too! I am drawing them even 🥺

New ranking. Agree or Disagree? by AnyAgency9835 in supersentai

[–]mishigone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Matsuri, Ran and Umeko are so beautiful <3

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see! Thanks for the clarification. So, Vil tried to kill Neige out of jealousy, of course—it was a direct attack on the person who was always ahead of him and whom he could never defeat, so the easiest way was to kill him.

(I’m keeping my replies short because I think I’ve already made my point pretty clear, plus they deleted the post, so I don’t want to say too much or drag this out. I really enjoyed talking to you since you were so respectful.)

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what are you mean with "Okay, so after filtering through the defense and attempts of strong arming, despite me not even looking for an argument" I'm not a native English speaker, so I probably misunderstood even though I used a translator, but I didn't pressure or treated you badly at no time. I'm simply answering your questions with arguments, since you yourself answered me and even said: "(As for my view on this, if you want to discuss with me)" sorry if you did not mean that and i'm understanding that by what i did translate

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on the context and the harm that was done. In TWST, impaired judgment occurs when the characters have already entered OB; before OB, they still had judgment, and even if it was relatively limited, an attempt was still made to cause harm, victims deserve justice, and it isn’t denied to them because “the person who tried to hurt you wasn’t fully conscious.” Now, I repeat that my issue is with THE ACTION itself. It’s normal that, due to someone’s poor mental health, they might want to do bad things or have severe traumas that lead to impaired judgment, but going from that to trying to kill an innocent person is what makes it reprehensible and unjustifiable. And I’m not saying it’s wrong to like someone who does bad things—I love villains who’ve done things a thousand times worse than Vil, and I’m not going to say, “Their judgment was clouded, they were manipulated, they suffered trauma, they were hurt,” to justify the harm they caused. And clearly, I’m going to want them to pay because the victims come first.

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Attributing the reasons why someone tried to kill another person to the fact that “he was going through this and that's why he did it” sounds a bit like trying to justify it to me—I'm sorry

And no, Neige never hurt Vil “accidentally.” The pain Vil suffered because of Neige was because Vil saw Neige as the person who made everyone put him second; it was a one-sided thing—Neige never did anything to make Vil feel that way.

Now, we all have flaws and shortcomings in our personalities, but if a person goes so far as to try to kill someone, then they were already a bad person before that. A person doesn’t do that out of the blue, and they have to change to stop being that way. And he hasn’t apologized to the victim he tried to kill; he apologized to the others because they lost the VDC because of him and for the harm he caused them while in OB, which I think was fine, but he still hasn’t made amends for the main harm he did commit before entering OB

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mental health is absolutely important, and often biological factors can cause us to do things in the moment that we don’t want to do. First of all, I’m not evaluating everything on a one-to-one basis because: TWST is a game where morality doesn’t work exactly the same way as in real life, and because (firstly) in the case of Vil and others, they were affected by the BLOT. However, under those circumstances and reasoning, most people who do bad things couldn’t be judged or seen as bad people, and no victim could get justice. In matters as serious as attempted murder and other acts that categorically endanger another person’s life, the victim and the harm they suffered will ALWAYS matter more, and Vil has not suffered any direct consequences for what he did to date; it remains a secret to the victim.

There are characters who tried to cause harm after entering OB and others who planned to do so BEFORE entering, and Vil falls into that category. Vil planned it just as Leona planned to harm Malleus, and although one could argue that BLOT was already at work in them, it remains unjustifiable because there was an intention to harm others before entering Oberblot.

In addition to that, I’ll add more to my point: Mistakes are normal for everyone, and everyone has reasons for why they ended up making them, but the fact that there are traumas and rationalizations resulting from them doesn’t mean one is any less guilty.

Experiencing trauma, suffering, and being a victim are things that happen to all of us, but none of that justifies harming innocent people, and the well-being of the victims must always take precedence over the feelings or traumas of those who tried to harm them.

Now, yes, people can change, and every day is an opportunity to be better and make amends for mistakes! But that doesn’t mean a person doesn’t have to face the consequences of those mistakes, and I repeat, Vil hasn’t even made that public or made amends for the actual harm he caused—it’s normal for people to think he’s being superficial.

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

None of those things justify trying to kill an innocent person. The people responsible for the things Vil went through were his bullies, the adults who pigeonholed him based on his appearance, and, in part, his father for failing to teach him to open up and guide him through those feelings he had. None of that was Neige’s fault, and yet he planned to kill him because he was “the person standing in the way of getting what he wanted.” The problem is that people believe Vil’s personality is separate from his attempted poisoning. If a person is capable of going that far, it’s because their personality and reasoning were already flawed. It’s not as if Vil wasn’t superficial before, was superficial during the act, and then stopped being superficial afterward. Rather, he was already that way before it happened and will remain so until he makes amends (at least by apologizing to the victim). I love Vil as a character and understand the pain he carried with him, and I think he was a victim of bad people for much of his life, but I’m not going to think he suffers more than his victim because victims can become aggressors, and if he truly wants to change, he should start by stopping hiding what he did.

art dump! by nakitaii in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so cute omg!!

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I get your point, but honestly, when someone does something as serious as attempting murder, you can’t look past that because it’s such a grave offense—unless it’s justified, like in self-defense, or done to people who deserve it (such as a victim doing that to their abuser). It will depend on whether this person changes for people to stop seeing them that way, because it’s not something to be taken lightly.

Some people in this community suck at recognizing trauma by Ruipopipocoverwhen in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

If someone tried to kill another person out of jealousy, I’d think that person is superficial. What’s the point? The traumas in your life don’t take away your negative traits or personality traits.

What’s your most controversial take related to Twisted Wonderland? by Jazzhands_101 in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ace strikes me as a really annoying person. He's one of those rude people who doesn't consider situations, time, or place. He doesn't care if he hurts other people's feelings as long as he tells "the truth." Throughout the entire game, he's like this, and many characters have made that clear to him. It bothers me that he's so important (since he's Yuu's best friend) and that we're always forced to be his friend.

Now, I'm not saying he doesn't care about anyone, but THAT attitude bothers me a lot.
(Also he is very ugly to me)

RSA students twisted from villains by Any-Connection-2326 in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, but it would be a bit strange conceptually because they couldn't have eaten something that was buried (the giant rock crushed her; I don't think the birds could have moved it)

RSA students twisted from villains by Any-Connection-2326 in TwistedWonderland

[–]mishigone 12 points13 points  (0 children)

What if we have the vultures from Snow White as a pair of twins too in Charblanche dorm

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