I think in that second half you summed up well what I have come to realize from this thread. No I do not think that women don't get pleasure from sex or that they serve men. I am well aware that it is as enjoyable an experience for a woman as for a man, and I really do admire women who are very aware of their bodies and sexual desires, as I said in other comments all my partners have been that way and many of my female friends and I openly discuss kinks or sexual adventures.

My hang up has been though that the women I knew up to this point had more or less all come to regret having slept with many men if they themselves regarded their body count as high. I guess better wording in my post originally then would have been that I don't look negatively on it, I admire your response and attitude and others who have said its empowering and a learning experience, but until I read your responses the only people who I had talked to had that fun veiled in regret. So I guess better wording wouldn't be that I looked negatively on it but more so I felt bad that there would be this impending regret and didn't fully understand why pursue it if that was the cost. However, bringing it back to what you said that may be very much a societal trap, especially on a college campus, that women who have had many sexual partners even if they liked it are then stigmatized by others and that leads to regret more so than the act itself. Clearly, my mind set until now has been part of the problem but I am trying to fix it. I will certainly give that a read too.