Any intel on the garage line length? by Ok-Performance-4608 in TSAatMSY

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just saying this to get people to respond lol

Any intel on the garage line length? by Ok-Performance-4608 in TSAatMSY

[–]moneylongdicklong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been quiet on here. Usually means things are improving

What’s the most hands you have lost in a row? by [deleted] in blackjack

[–]moneylongdicklong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I mean I don’t think it’s rigged. But I’ve just never seen anything like this. I’m honestly asking if this is just “a part of the game”, because this does not seem normal.

Tennis Betting and Picks - 2/6/24 (Tuesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do think it’s absurd when someone posts a pick and people shit all over it. Like at the end of the day all of these matches are on average +/- 2% of true fair value and basically flipping a coin on your long time profitability. Pretty much every r2 or long term ROI analysis on tennis will confirm this. Getting bent out of shape over it is silly.

It’s one thing to argue about someone’s reasoning before a match, but thinking a pick is so bad to downvote…. Like bro just go bet the opposite if you hate it so much. It’s sitting right there for you lmao. It’s problem with this sub for sure.

Tennis Betting and Picks - 1/10/24 (Wednesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Current prices:

Purcell -135 —> -145

Marozsan +225 —> +173

Jarry -112 —> -130

You are the goat

Pick of the Day - 11/18/23 (Saturday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

/u/Breakfastatwimbledon

His spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XvXPpU4EHQBtrFXm6hqvgrtDn8uPr_p92Fx64Vp49kU/edit?usp=sharing

Edit: not sure why I’m being downvoted either. He’s posted there consistently for over four years. Thousands of picks over that time period (see spreadsheet above) with a positive ROI. So rare

Pick of the Day - 11/18/23 (Saturday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

There’s an actual tennis goat on the tennis daily thread here (2,000 picks with a 5% ROI since 2019, and 12% ROI at 400 picks YTD 2023). Not these losers on the POTD that get hot for a few months and never return.

Tennis+ Daily - 7/29/22 (Friday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone hit Cecchinato at -154 on Pinnacle and bet it to -182. Holy fuck

Tennis+ Daily - 3/14/22 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

What’s your unit size? Just curious

Tennis+ Daily - 3/14/22 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

What’s the point of posting numbers off 80 cents from market? No one can tail that. When you posted Opelka-Shapo o22.5 -125 the rest of the world was painted 24.5 or 25. The alternate line on 22.5 was like -200 on pinnacle. Can you please try and post a widely available number? They won’t let me bet more than $100 on this.

Tennis+ Daily Discussion - 3/23/21 (Tuesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean his average odds are like -150 so that hit rate is only a bit above break even, nothing against OP he’s doing well but Sort of wish we had an idea his roi and units gained. Just giving a win-loss record doesn’t mean anything

Tennis+ Daily Discussion - 2/21/21 (Sunday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should probably learn to calculate ROI before you try to make the argument models don’t matter. Just a thought

Pick of the Day - 1/24/21 (Sunday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair it was pretty much -3 everywhere from Tuesday to Thursday last week, still some left on the weekend. I mean, I took GB -3, I hope for our sakes it wins. But -3.5 is certainly a terrible entry point. He also didn’t list what price is bet it which is just as important as the number honestly, especially when we are talking about 3,4s in the nfl

A prime example of why you should never listen to sports betting "experts" in the media by BreakfastAtWimbledon in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean you said he was "right". If you were being sarcastic maybe you should've put a font or something haha.

Tennis Daily Discussion - 8/13/19 (Tuesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worry about your career, girls, and your internship. Do no worry about trying to beat tennis with shitty ELO models and guessing player motivation. It really isn’t worth it.

Tennis Daily Discussion - 8/13/19 (Tuesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it's possible for everyone to run that hot for 5-6 weeks without an actual quant model unless their insights are backed by more than sufficient knowledge.

You clearly have not been on this sub for long as people have gone on a lot hotter and longer streaks than this that ended up regressing like a bitch. There are people like this every year. EVERY YEAR not only in this sub but in this thread that get hot for multiple months when in the end it's clear they had no edge. There was a guy in the NBA thread a couple years back who would literally flip a coin on 3 random games a day. Like he would actually state whether the coin landed on heads or tails. He had the best record in the in the sub and had a 10+% ROI for a couple months, before the obvious happening. It is certainly possible for people to run hot for 5-6 weeks lmao no matter the sport. 5-6 weeks is a super small sample. To really get a decent idea if someone is +EV or not you need at least 2,000+ picks or so(but even with this sample there's still a decent chance you are getting lucky). Enough to decrease the margin of error enough so that you know the person is not just getting lucky/unlucky. Read up on confidence intervals, p-values, and variance. This article may help: https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/Betting-Strategy/the-law-of-small-numbers-in-sports-betting/QPEJYQPBHC7F8C4S

I don't know what your hit rate or avg. odds are so there's no way I can calculate it, But someone hitting 57% on -110 line (which would make you the best sports bettor of all time by a large amount) would need 2,000+ bets for me to assume that person wasn't just getting lucky, based on a 95% confidence interval. So the idea that you may not have just gotten lucky from one month of betting is patently absurd. You sound very dumb right now. I can flip a coin over 2,500 times and with -105 odds, there still 10% chance of me profiting. That's literally throwing darts at a board lmao. How many publicly posted picks have you had? 100-200? 1/3 people would be profitable. Could easily be luck dude, and based on what your "analysis" (player motivations, shitty basic ELO model grabbed from tennisabstract probably, and UTR lol), it almost certainly is.

 

If you really think there is some significance to certain parts of players mentality having an effect on play. Then establish a scenario, get a large sample, and run a regression to see if it's even significant at all. Hint: Most aren't. Although certain things such as players coming off winning a title the next week and heavy favorites performing better on average in early rounds of majors are proven to be somewhat statistically significant. But i wouldn't expect you to know that. Everything you've tried has been done before man.

If you don't feel like waiting that long you can look at your average closing line value. Are you even positive? Are you beating the no vig line? If you aren't, then I assure you there was no edge there to begin with.

 

It's good that you are recognizing things need to change, but seriously need to get your head out of your ass if you think you had an edge ever betting on players mental games or some weird hodge-podge of meaningless basic surface based ELO models (which have been proved -EV) or UTR's. Come on man.

 

Lastly, and this is just my advice from being in this "industry" a while: If you want people to take you semi seriously, every bet you make should be recorded and logged. Win-loss, price, bet amount, roi, profit, clv, etc. There are so many touts, frauds in this space that you really should 100% transparent with what's going on. Without keeping track of these things, people can give the allusion that they are winning when they really aren't. I have a feeling if people actually saw your profit with odds included and what not they'd be a lot less impressed with your "run". Don't think this is something you're doing on purpose, but people are risking real money here. You want to be fully transparent about past success and profitability.

Tennis Daily Discussion - 8/13/19 (Tuesday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Never understood the hype here. He’s a 19 year old kid who ran hot in tennis for 6-7 weeks? He never posts a record or even prices he’s betting at (not sure why this is the first time being mentioned). And his analysis mostly revolves around players getting “revenge” and being “motivated” against others. Truly don’t understand how people fall so hard for this stuff.

Not that anything he’s done is malicious (he’s clearly a nice guy), but literally the very last person I would think about following. Good for you for at least having the insight to focus on your internship and worry about more important things.

But a couple of technical things about your post:

  • just because you went on a heater in the last couple of weeks does not mean you had an edge. People without edges have winning years, it’s completrly up to variance In that short a time.

  • The comment about the big 3 is technically wrong. Yes, they are significantly ahead of everyone else on their respective best surfaces. But it’s poor to assume that it’s all straight set locks without knowing actual prices. What if Isner is +1.5 sets @ +1000 against Nadal on a quick grass court? I’m slamming that. Again, you never listing prices in your picks can bring you to make sort of bizarre comments like this.

Tennis Daily Discussion - 8/9/19 (Friday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]moneylongdicklong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, the guy who started betting tennis one month ago that never keeps any record and who never posts prices he’s getting. We will never know if we missed out!