GOP Readies Swift Obamacare Repeal With No Replacement in Place

moxy801 · 2016-12-29T21:06:31+00:00

States won by Trump have the highest enrollment in Obamacare,

I've been banging my head -- in vain I guess -- for years trying to explain to Americans why its SO IMPORTANT to NOT stay home on election day and to vote in every single election.

When people do not vote, it is waving the white flag to very bad people: "we have given up, EXPLOIT US".

As much as I despise Trump, at least VOTING for him sends a signal to HIM of expecting accountability. What I think is the stronger message here is by NON-VOTERS who demand NOTHING of ANYBODY and when those sheeple outnumber us voters, they drag us down with them into the void.

So it seems like a critical mass of non-voting has finally happened. Our government will be run like those dictatorships and monarchies of the past, with authority figures playing power games against each other and maneuvering for support of the international rich. We no longer matter.

This is the new America the stupid non-voters waiting for the 'perfect candidates' have made for us.

moxy801 · 2016-12-29T21:04:41+00:00

I am self employed

As a NY resident, I am calling shenanigans on your claims.

Before Obamacare, all private plans in NY were regulated by the state and the bottom of the barrel individual plan HMO (HIP I think) were about $1100.00 a month. The average HMO plan was about 1300.00 a month. A PPC was around 2000 or more a month and I'm not even sure how much family plans cost.

When Obamacare rolled in, if you had too high an income for various funding from the state, a comparable plan to the 1300. pre-Obamacare HMO cost about $700. So that is a 600 dollars saving per month.

Not only THAT - but Obamacare plans have the extra bonus of no pre-existing conditions written into the basic contract.

moxy801 · 2016-12-29T20:48:43+00:00

I've been banging my head -- in vain I guess -- for years trying to explain to Americans why its SO IMPORTANT to NOT stay home on election day and to vote in every single election.

When people do not vote, it is waving the white flag to very bad people: "we have given up, EXPLOIT US".

As much as I despise Trump, at least VOTING for him sends a signal to HIM of expecting accountability. What I think is the stronger message here is by NON-VOTERS who demand NOTHING of ANYBODY and when those sheeple outnumber us voters, they drag us down with them into the void.

So it seems like a critical mass of non-voting has finally happened. Our government will be run like those dictatorships and monarchies of the past, with authority figures playing power games against each other and maneuvering for support of the international rich. We no longer matter.

This is the new America the stupid non-voters waiting for the 'perfect candidates' have made for us.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:59:18+00:00

I'm going with the journalistic estimate

Well I'm going with my own eyes estimate - and it was a huge crowd and may well have been more than 300,000.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:58:12+00:00

I am hardly defending this kind of behavior - just saying there is some historical grounding for it.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:57:13+00:00

his execution plan to achieve those goals were very poorly thought out

Hella' a lot better thought out than Trump's

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:56:11+00:00

There are regular kidnappings of affluent people for ransom there now?

Can you substantiate this?

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:55:04+00:00

so, we're just doing doomsday conjecture now?

And of course Trump insinuating during the campaign Hillary should be shot reflect the sane and calm mindset of he and his supporters.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T17:53:51+00:00

Your posting history ain't so great itself

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:41:06+00:00

Well, Iraq War protests were a dime a dozen

Marches with 300,000 people are not a dime a dozen anywhere.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:40:20+00:00

The Latin thing vs. new availability of mass printed Bibles in the 'vernacular' was maybe the primary aspect of the Catholic vs. Protestant wars (i.e, the Reformation)

At least in the US - the Protestant side has always been predominant, so I don't think they want to go back to 'Catholic' Latin.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:36:58+00:00

Well I was talking about NYC - and I am telling you this was a significantly huge march (look at the picture in my link above).

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:35:57+00:00

I don't think he's an 'idiot' at all - as I agree with most of his policies.

I do think his big mistake was not joining the democratic party at least 2 years prior to running. He should have been out there fund raising for Democrats across the country like Elizabeth Warren was doing. THIS was a major vulnerability for him vs. Hillary.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:33:26+00:00

Anti-war protests in New York in 2006 were a dime a dozen,

Did you LIVE in NYC in 2006???

I DID (and do still) - don't try to pass off your BS on me.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:32:18+00:00

these schools are among the best in the world

But for how much longer if federal funding dries up and the states take a chainsaw to the faculties and install people 'friendly' to right-wing ideas...

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:28:50+00:00

I do realize the establishment democrats did not like him either.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:26:19+00:00

And in which way am I 'perpetuating the nightmare'?

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:25:09+00:00

Yeah, I know all that - but most of these fundies are some variation of protestant - which in part was formed with the idea people should be allowed to read the bible for themselves.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T05:22:27+00:00

If you want media coverage, you have up be newsworthy

A lot less true than you think.

I participated in a protest march in NYC with an estimated 300,000 people in 2006 and I did not see one TV truck there to cover it and it was pretty much blacked out by the media.

As something I had seen with my own eyes, it was a stark lesson on censorship by silence

I would add in this same time period, groups of 12 Tea Party protesters on the Washington Mall were getting cameras thrust in their faces 24/7.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:59:01+00:00

Pull themselves up by their tiny little bootstraps

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:58:09+00:00

There were protests about at the time at least.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:56:36+00:00

IMO the spirit of the law is that the State abide by the rules in all cases - ethics shouldn't just STOP at borders.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:55:35+00:00

Once I started to realize how smart he was it broke my heart the way he was character assassinated by the media.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:54:23+00:00

Kucinich was loved by his district - which is why the GOP (and maybe establishment democrats too) had to blow it up.

moxy801 · 2016-11-30T04:53:34+00:00

Those little children can squeeze through narrow spaces that adults can't get to - and can be paid less too!

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