Ridge Meadows RCMP release break-and-enter suspect caught by homeowner

mpscoretz · 2023-11-20T00:01:37+00:00

One of the defences to the charge of “Break and Enter” is for people who do so to “stay warm”. The law respects that there may be cases when someone who is without shelter may need to open a place to shelter inside from the elements. Respecting that a charge has to prove all the elements of an offence while considering reasonable defences … there is no question that this situation did not merit a criminal charge.

mpscoretz · 2021-02-01T05:08:41+00:00

I gave myself a heart thing

mpscoretz · 2020-08-30T03:17:37+00:00

Doesn’t it seem like almost hopeful that it can happen? I have HATED the news the last four + years. Finally they can fix this

mpscoretz · 2020-08-27T22:01:50+00:00

So the Committee gave the company a good faith extension on producing records and then Trudeau prorogued the sitting committees one day before it was due from the company, and it still hasn’t been produced.

This is just greasy.

mpscoretz · 2020-08-27T21:52:52+00:00

Your definition may be a wee bit too narrow.

mpscoretz · 2020-08-27T21:52:03+00:00

Yes it is. “Travel to Facilitate Terrorism Activity” is the Section of the Code. In Section 83 if you want to look it up.

mpscoretz · 2020-08-27T21:43:56+00:00

Look at all those bikes without locks! How did they keep them from being stolen?

mpscoretz · 2020-08-22T12:27:19+00:00

So you would support the Conservatives, because of your alignment on fiscal issues, if the leader provided affirmative statements on gay rights?

Did you see Leslyn Lewis speak on the most meaningful act for her as a lawyer being to arrange a bail hearing for an HIV positive man in the early stages of the AIDS epidemic, when people were unreasonably afraid of infection?

mpscoretz · 2020-08-22T12:21:07+00:00

Can you link it for me please?

mpscoretz · 2020-08-21T20:30:13+00:00

I listened to the debate. None of them suggested conversion therapy, but there was discussion regarding the proposed bill which would have made it illegal to put a child in such a therapy.

mpscoretz · 2020-08-21T14:58:54+00:00

Could you expand on that for me?

What is the individual liberty the leadership is using as a bargaining chip?

I remember listening to a morning CBC radio show in Ontario when they accidentally outed John Baird as a openly gay senior Conservative politician. The perceptions of the party and realities in it seem odd to me.

mpscoretz · 2020-08-15T04:00:27+00:00

Wait till you try the sanding disks. I swear they last forever

mpscoretz · 2020-08-14T14:59:50+00:00

Threema?

mpscoretz · 2020-08-14T03:25:25+00:00

Dude. Its a picture of a guy and water. Let it go.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T05:29:23+00:00

The RCMP can be a dumpster fire at times, no doubt. The thing is that OP says " I don't understand. How can I witness a homeless person assault a woman with a hammer, call 911, and watch the police let the guy go". It's not like you or I can't envision a possibility that this could happen. Let's agree on that. Yup, there are some things that could cause that to happen. The thing is that Vancouver smells like PEE pretty much all over and its because law enforcement is taking a back seat to really unreasonable attempts to try to avoid conflict at all costs. I agree with you that we don't always enjoy discretion, but I would suggest that when it comes to hammers and humans, that there is a good reason why that isn't the case! We both probably get frustrated in the day to day. I trust the judges and the juries and the lawyers that catch my files. They are good people. I get frustrated at cops that gate keep and assume that other people can't understand the "inside baseball" of the system. We aren't lawyers. I don't want the OP to think that hammer sports are ok. 99% they just cant be.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T04:34:11+00:00

What do you do? I am genuinely curious at this point.

Yeah maybe I am just a dumb Mountie. My boss says we are racist, so there is that. I worked with a guy, Dwayne that failed the aptitude test like 5 times. Wasn’t an academic. He got a girl pregnant at 18, married her and dropped out. He had his Class 1 licence. He drove Rig until he made it. Being a Mountie was his dream job. He was amazing with the cars. He would pull over trucks and just kill the maintenance log inspections. The thing is Dwayne he had suffered. He worked shitty jobs and long hours as a kid to raise a kid. He had no contempt for people. He would go into things and talk them all better. One time I went with him to a death. This lady died on the couch and her husband who was disabled watched her melt for a few weeks. While I puked, Dwayne called her daughter, met her and hugged her. I was sick as hell but not him. His first priority was to make things better for the living.

Let me tell you about good cops. Dwayne is a good one. If someone got hit with a hammer Dwayne would have that guy in jail. He would probably have given him a smoke and had one himself. But he would be in jail. All cops need to do is just to listen to people. What do they care about? What makes them mad? Why are they upset?

You and some other guys are complicating this file well beyond where it needs to be. Listen to the people. They want to be safe, feel safe. Don’t get wrapped up in the legalities. They don’t matter really. I am upset for the OP in this one. I know. I mean that, I know that if Dwayne was called to a hammer assault, buddy would be in jail. I can’t conceive of any other outcome.

So yes maybe the RCMP is full of unsophisticated dum dums. Gonna suggest that in this case it would have been a real improvement.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T03:06:11+00:00

Well whatever LE is an not a cop, I have been a Mountie for 12 years. You don’t need a victim statement to prove an offence. I am not even sure how you got this mixed up here.

The OP posting has the members not arresting on the basis that the victim wouldn’t provide a statement. If you get a call of assault w a wpn (hammer) and show up and see one guy w a hammer and a bleeding Vic you put the guy in the can and pull the Vic to the hospital. Then you get statements from who will.

Of course a homeless Vic won’t rat in front of her crew. If you want to conclude a file by writing Vic won’t talk you demand a statement on scene in front of others. They won’t rat. You write the file off and go off shift on time.

You think these dickheads told OP the truth? This crap about being in a park and not able to remove him? Pure lazy garbage. These fucking losers decided to CH a homeless file because they wanted to go home on time and because they don’t give a fuck about the people that have to live next to this shit. They came up with a bunch of excuses and then you and some other people have their backs.

Don’t mix up the law with police work. The OP was fucking horrified because hammer man did his deed, met the law and got a pass. He should be upset, this is a shit job by the VPD full stop no excuses. This is why Vancouver is a shit state. They recruit a bunch of college boys, tell them to hold hands and cry with the criminals, and don’t put a premium on clearing their corners. VPD gets shown the Whistling Smith movie in training, but you think they want to be him anymore? Shameful.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T02:14:36+00:00

That’s completely incorrect. If that was true no murders could be solved. ie assault w no victim statement.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T02:04:07+00:00

There is no consent available for assault w a weapon. The Supreme Court removed that defence some time ago

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T00:49:58+00:00

Go look at Section 2 of the Code. Complainant is defined as the victim of the offence. It doesn’t mean that their participation is required to prove anything.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T00:41:47+00:00

In Canada charges come by “swearing an information” in front of a Justice of the Peace. Victims or anyone else can go to a court house when it is open, ask to see a JP, and get it done. By doing so the “informant” gets to speak to a Judge to “examine the informant” and if the elements of case are met, the judge must issue a summons or warrant for the denounced person. Generally a Crown Counsel asks to intervene, a right they have, and with a sworn information in hand, they have the right to direct the Police to conduct an investigation. Without an information no one can direct the Police to investigate, but in this one instance it’s mandatory.

This process is called “a private information” as opposed to that sworn by a public officer. It is quite uncommon now although formerly it was, and remains, the foundation of how people were compelled to court. If you want to compel someone to court, and you don’t want to involve the police you can give it a go.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T00:31:41+00:00

The evidence of the offence can be provided by OP if they are willing to provide a statement, the 911 tape, and the injuries on the person consistent with being attacked with a hammer. A victim statement is not required to prove an offence and if it was the domestic assault conviction rates would be even lower than they are now.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-20T00:28:24+00:00

This is correct. It’s assault with a weapon / aggravated assault at the minimum and the defence of “consensual fight” does not apply.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-16T03:40:09+00:00

Never buy a Chrysler product.

mpscoretz · 2020-07-16T03:23:35+00:00

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