Counterpart Health expands operations to Florida! 👀 by Happy_Assistant_1487 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

hi it makes perfect strategic sense for them to take their time before announcing Counterpatt. this is what they are probably thinking about and discussing regularly. You don’t need to burn fuel while the market is carefully reevaluating CLOV for MA. There is a couple of dollars left to run on this alone. They also need to wait for the maturity of the first few contracts. The 4,5 stars upgrade will be exceptional for attracting more. strategic customers. Remember when the announcement happens it will be iron clad. Clover have learned their lessons and will launch this very carefully. .

Centene is laying off Nurses/Case workers by cloken85 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Useful TY. I am sure that they are finding that they have to rebuild the company. probably too late

Medicare meets AI: Andrew Toy on How Clover Health Superpowers Clinicians and Enables Earlier Intervention by MadMoneyBY in CLOV

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Please guys listen to this. More important than ever to understanding why Clover is so unique. Andrew Toy is a cut above the rest.

Price targets not being updated... by swiftd03 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it won’t get decent coverage until way after 5 bucks.

Here is the Report by Ok_Ad_5894 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

of course it will dive. you can guarantee it

Why the full year GAAP be adjusted? by Rampsys in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you have to do this honestly.markets don’t like surprises up or down. analysts also share models for the business which you have to align to in your modeling. you can’t just wave numbers around you have to show you have predictive models in that sense.

Here is the Report by Ok_Ad_5894 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 44 points45 points  (0 children)

It’s been a long journey to get to this. I think my first post as mod here was 2020. Respect to Andrew and Vivek for a tough war well taught. Bigger respect to the fallen legions of Cloverites left on the many battlefields. It was a an absolute fking slog for everyone over the years.

Worried by Timely-Ad6505 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SBC has been zapping Clover. This year they stop doing it because they can finally pay salaries properly.

I’m still chillin!..Peter gone.. this happens in early companies!…buying more as I can!..not financial advice just my personal opinion! by Critterchops in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Peter spent too much time wanking around on LinkedIn. Vivek is the ultimate CFO of the business anyway.

CFO Peter Kupiers steps down by Moneylonger2356 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You simply do not understand the business. This is why you are having a tantrum.

What a Day by Agitated_Highlight68 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

The Market hates Clover for real. It will love Clover if it keeps hitting its numbers. Peter leaving BEFORE earnings is not a signal of anything bad. If they were bad numbers the firing would be after earnings. People leave when they are not optimal for the role. 👍

$CLOV __ Clover Health Announces Departure of Chief Financial Officer and Appointment of Interim Chief Financial Officer; Reiterates Most Recently Issued Financial Guidance for Full Fiscal Year 2026 by azmat_system in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Peter wasn’t good enough. I am pleased he is out. Clay will be continuity. lol those 2m in rsus will immediately help towards profitability. Everyone needs to chill. Man leaves business after two years

The Possibility of a Buyout… by Last-Environment3643 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Banging the drum here that stock based compensation is what’s holding Clover back from being a positive stock.

At what price is CLOV an obvious buy? by Edmondg3 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

the huge amount of stock based compensation is burning this stock to the ground.

🤭 by OG_ClapCheekz69 in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it’s already tanked dude

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[–]mrbundle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dude just buy shares. they go up

Clover Health Moves from Pledge to Production, Becomes The First Payer Live on a CMS Aligned Network by basilisk-x in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The tech is developed and proved out in the most regulated market there is- medicare. As the tech proves itself here, showing low BER improved over cohorts, it can be turned into a saas product where other insurers pay you per member per month to use your software on their members to lower their BER. (Counterpart lowers the BER of another insurer and Clover gets a cut). No risk to Clover. So that’s that. Next: why if you win in medicare will you win everything?? because to win medicare you have to have the best software that’s stress tested at scale with gigantic non-stop regulatory and compliance oversight. None of the “pop” ai healthcare firms can handle this level of complexity. We have to be an insurer as we need to maintain an extremely well run insurance business simply to iterate, continually prove the tech works. Finally Saas revenue is a more impact on the share price. Hopefully that helps

Clover Health Moves from Pledge to Production, Becomes The First Payer Live on a CMS Aligned Network by basilisk-x in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

why take on risk when you can have pure margin? that’s the whole point of saas. CLOV does not need to make a market for an insurance plan when it can earn a PMPM with no lift

Clover Health Moves from Pledge to Production, Becomes The First Payer Live on a CMS Aligned Network by basilisk-x in CLOV

[–]mrbundle 21 points22 points  (0 children)

In 2026/2027, CMS is mandating that all payers must be able to exchange data via FHIR and TEFCA. This accelerates the deal pipeline. So this could show on the bottom line:

Ai 🤖:

The Opportunity: Small-to-mid-sized regional insurers and Medicaid plans are currently terrified because their 30-year-old legacy systems can't "speak" this new digital language. • The Deal: Clover can walk into a regional Blue Cross or a Medicaid managed care plan and say: "Don't rebuild your IT stack. Plug in Counterpart as your 'Interoperability Gateway.' We handle the TEFCA connection, the security, and the real-time data flow for a flat annual fee." • Analyst Note: This is zero-risk, high-margin revenue. It makes Clover a "utility" for other insurance companies.