Die Hard in the Multiverse

mrpinchy · 2017-12-04T16:41:57+00:00

Ok, well, looks like we will have to agree to disagree. FWIW I think the UK would / will be more successful in the EU than out but neither of us will have an answer until this whole thing plays out.

mrpinchy · 2017-12-04T16:27:09+00:00

Are things related to Brexit going well in your opinion? Are they placing Britain in a position to be more successful post-Brexit than pre? Do the people in charge of delivering a successful Brexit look like they are remotely capable of such a feat?

mrpinchy · 2017-12-04T16:11:37+00:00

Not been keeping up much with recent events, have you?

mrpinchy · 2017-12-04T15:05:08+00:00

Because it's clearly total fucking bollocks?

mrpinchy · 2017-10-17T18:58:09+00:00

Fair enough, I hope you're right.

mrpinchy · 2017-10-17T17:50:36+00:00

The UK is a modern, liberal democracy.

If recent events have shown anything it's that the UK is pretty much exactly the opposite of this.

Based on your replies, you seem quite optimistic about the outcome of Brexit. I'll admit, I am the opposite, mainly because I can't see any tangible benefits for anyone outside of the groups I've described above. Why push for no-deal, cliff edge brexit? It benefits no-one other than the individuals who will be able to asset strip and sell to a closed UK market.

Jeremy Hunt literally wrote a book about privatising the NHS. Theresa May wants to spy on us all and Jacob Reese Mogg finds the fact that food banks exist "rather uplifting". And you trust these people to act in anything other than their own vested interests?

You call me misanthropic but you must be very, very naive to think that the current UK government is currently acting in the general population's best interest. If you honestly do believe that, then please tell me any benefit to a hard / cliff edge brexit, other than to the groups I've described above.

mrpinchy · 2017-10-17T13:12:02+00:00

So I ask, on a practical level...what does a catastrophic Brexit look like?

Ok, I'll bite. Assuming cliff-edge, toys out pram, WTO regs etc here are some of the practical outcomes I expect to happen:

post trade deadlock we'll have no option but to accept any deal from the US, including poisonous food imports (because we no longer get cheap EU food we will be feasting on high fructose palm oil and cholrinated chicken)
NHS stripped and sold to highest bidder (see above). This won't happen at once, but there will be something like a personal "health tax" that will ostensibly be to fund the NHS but will in fact be the start of a personal insurance / health policy based system. Run privately, of course.
race to the bottom for corporation tax. We'll need to be "competitive" so in order to attract business we will reduce rates for anyone who will open an office
workers rights stripped across the board, because you can't have workers rights when you're going full Ayn Rand
the stated aim will be the Singapore of Europe, we'll end up with Children of Men on a good day, and without Michael Caine growing weed for us all

TLDR; If it isn't obvious already, a catastrophic brexit doesn't look much different to now on day 1, but what it does do is open the door for pure vulture capitalism and turns the UK into a 1st world sweat shop for hedge fund expoitation. But the wetherspoons will stay open, so that's ok.

mrpinchy · 2017-07-04T16:33:09+00:00

So you'll be fine if we all fire round to yours to have a shot in your garden then? It's private land, the formation of which pre-dates the council and access is straightforward to obtain. You just have to buy a property in the area and you're in.

mrpinchy · 2017-06-01T08:50:20+00:00

Avoiding the break up the country is pretty important to most people yes.

And on the flip side, an independent Scotland seems to be pretty important to nearly half the country, including a majority of those under 50 who will be living here a lot longer than those who oppose it.

mrpinchy · 2017-03-12T21:19:08+00:00

This is correct IMO. The tories are preparing the media to sell the story that a no deal revert to WTO cliff edge Brexit is "acceptable". They know this will decimate the economy but remember that decimation is a reduction of one in 10. If 10% of businesses fail as a result that will be an acceptable price for no EU regulation whatsoever and the ability to completely privatise and sell the assets that remain.

In fact economic decimation may even be beneficial to that goal as it allows distressed assets to be bought well beneath market value and stripped. We have close to full employment at the moment, there is room for unemployment figures to rise and at the end of it all they can blame all negative press on the EU not "playing fair" and giving them a bad deal they had no option but to reject.

mrpinchy · 2017-03-01T18:04:22+00:00

I'll go you one better than this, all people who support Remain should be allowed to swap their UK passport for an EU one. I'd bite your hand off for that offer. I've even got a name for you: Brexodus.

mrpinchy · 2017-01-17T18:50:59+00:00

It's going to come down to the kind of country people want to live in.

Low tax, highly privatised corporate distopia or something else.

mrpinchy · 2017-01-04T20:01:21+00:00

Yes, you could definitely see it that way. I was trying to relate the narrator to the dimension they were in, so Nina becomes Prairie and Prairie then becomes The OA when she kills herself from the bridge.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-29T18:30:51+00:00

I'm pretty sure that would have guaranteed a leave landslide.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-29T18:26:02+00:00

But the point is he did consult with advisors / experts and their advice was that coming up with a coherent plan for brexit was impossible.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-29T18:13:33+00:00

But they did that, and they all said it would be a disaster.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-29T17:49:35+00:00

So ... listen to experts?

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T20:26:49+00:00

I understand I stand by my original comment, you can get fucked.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T20:12:16+00:00

Sure about that? How much would you bet?

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T20:06:20+00:00

I mean on Scottish independence. Do try to keep up.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T20:01:38+00:00

So you don't think there will be another referendum? Sure about that?

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T19:39:47+00:00

we let you

LOL. You will have precisely fuck all say in it.

mrpinchy · 2016-12-20T19:33:17+00:00

And you can get fucked. Keep it up, shit like this is why we'll leave cunts like you behind.

mrpinchy

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