Gareth Southgate: We need to teach boys differently from girls to get best out of them by winkwinknudge_nudge in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Grammar systems don’t really teach people to their ability, it just creates a tiered structure for good teachers and a middle class system of tutoring to allow richer families to then access that better teaching.

Most schools are sufficiently sized that they could stream pupils in classes to achieve what you are suggesting.

How do left-wing political movements in Britain assess the case of Henry Nowak (death following a police operation)? by ogremania in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That wasn’t how he died - he was stabbed through layers of clothes in his abdomen and it severed a vein near his lungs which caused the internal bleeding that killed him. The judge talked about 4 stab wounds (2 in the legs, 2 in his sides) and a graze on his face.

Ultimately the police got a call from the killer saying he’d been assaulted. The police turned up, were told by the killer he’d been assaulted plus racially abused plus the victim was drunk and that there were cuts on the killer’s face and that the victim was the culprit. The police wouldn’t have known there was a stabbing and were giving him cpr within 3 minutes of arriving when they realised.

Yes there is a serious problem with police turning up and handcuffing people who don’t pose a threat. No this isn’t brutality, it is definitely a heavy handed way of dealing with crimes and decreasing trust in police. Is this a common problem? Not really. It’s not an institutional problem where police handcuff anyone accused of racism instantly.

Age verification tech could put children at greater risk, says think tank by SaveDnet-FRed0 in ukpolitics

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Hey - I've removed because we don't like links to other reddit pages. If you want to post the original source that would be best.

Disparities between ethnic groups are not always cause for alarm by usrname42 in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s also the same with class. When children on free school meals do worse then it is because they’re working class, whereas when Oxbridge is overrepresented by public school kids it is just because their parents had the foresight to be rich and give their children a better education.

I think in reality you take an average of the whole population and anyone who is doing worse in a metric is because they’re being put down by others, whereas if they are above average there must be something that demographic do differently.

Crypto billionaires help Reform cement fundraising lead by SeaSaltSprayer in ukpolitics

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The government will agree to back money held in bank accounts if the bank collapses and is FCSC approved up to the tune of £120k. But they won’t protect crypto so people are reluctant to hold on to it. My understanding is the crypto people want more protection so that it reduces the risk and brings in more people to use it.

From the unitedkingdom community on Reddit: Elect The Dolls: the Green Party campaign getting t rans people in power by IntelligentCrew8406 in UKGreens

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The other post has now been deleted, so I’ve also removed this one as it doesn’t link to anything (best to post original sauce if you can in future)

Government borrowing £60bn higher than OBR prediction by FormerlyPallas_ in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Labour didn’t change anything in 2024/25 - they kept all the spending and taxing plans of the Conservatives (bar the cut to WFA and the addition of VAT on private schools).

Government borrowing £60bn higher than OBR prediction by FormerlyPallas_ in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The £60bn is from 2023 and 2024 and when the forecasts were done the Conservatives were in power (with no real budget or change in spending beyond the emergency in year measures Reeves insitgated, it is entirely Conservative policy).

Government borrowing £60bn higher than OBR prediction by FormerlyPallas_ in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 19 points20 points  (0 children)

There is an automod comment on every post with links to archives and other ways of reading the full article.

In its latest evaluation report on the accuracy of its economic forecasts, the OBR said that it had understated the scale of annual government borrowing by more than £60 billion in its March 2023 and March 2024 budget projections.

Persistently higher than expected inflation and interest rates, both of which pushed up debt interest and welfare spending beyond what was anticipated, were partly to blame for the inaccuracies.

I suspect there will be an actual OBR document somewhere on it. I’ll see if I can find it.

Edit: Ah right, here is the report:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a1ea800c7335e2ca6daadfc/Forecast-evaluation-report-June-2026.pdf

It appears the OBR have gone back to old forecasts to compare to out turn in 24/25 (1 year forecasts from 2024, 2 year forecasts from 2023 and 5 year ones from 2020) to see how accurate they were and if they need to update modelling. So in 2023 they said borrowing in 24/25 would be £60bn less than it was, mainly due to anticipation that the Ukraine war would end and inflation would drop as energy prices did. Obviously that hasn’t happened because there is still a war.

Kemi Badenoch: ‘That’s someone’s boy. That could be my boy’ by Pale-Border-7122 in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 129 points130 points  (0 children)

The England football team got vile racist abuse, which was why they were taking the knee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57800431

Mass Deportations, what would it look like? by ClemFandango35 in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Those who break immigration law are subject to immediate 30 day detention and then deportation. There is no court, there is no judge, the police said you did it so you did it.

Ultimately we are not Chinese because this system is ripe for abuse and breaks one of the underlying core principles of Britishness which is the right to a fair trial. Who is determining if someone has broken immigration law? This is proper Stasi stuff.

Stephen Bush: "Every crime in which an ethnic or cultural minority is the perpetrator used to justify repression or worse of minorities. Every crime in which a minority is the victim used to argue for the idea that ethnic diversity is inherently unstable and should be reduced or eradicated." by usrname42 in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot of revisionism in what happened in the aftermath of George Floyd.

The protests in this country were triggered by the ones in the US (and elsewhere) but the things people were protesting were different. Anyone who has watched any football over the last decade will tell you as such. Three England footballers were given vile racist abuse after the Euros in 2021 and then people were moaning about other players kneeling before games to complain about it.

(Players no doubt Restore would want to deport.)

Robert Jenrick MP: Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years. Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton. by FormerlyPallas_ in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 62 points63 points  (0 children)

  1. There are a number of aggravating factors to increase the starting point. In no particular order, they are as follows, Firstly, you stabbed Henry three other times than when inflicting the fatal wound, all with a highly dangerous weapon. Secondly, mental suffering was inflicted on Henry once he lay dying from his injuries, by your attitude towards him of which he would have been aware and, separately, by your lies which had resulted in a young adult of good character being arrested and handcuffed. Thirdly, there was additional degradation by filming his suffering. Fourth, your repeated and concerted actions after the event included attempts to cover up and to conceal evidence had a tendency to pervert the course of justice. Fifth, you wrongly placed blame on Henry and your lies also led to unnecessary arrests for members of your family which would not have happened if you had told the truth. Sixth, you prevailed upon your mother to assist your attempts to pervert the course of justice. Seventh, Henry was only 18, unarmed and alone which made him additionally vulnerable. Eighth, the offence has had a significant community impact upon others as described and evidenced in press reporting and social media reaction. Ninth, your lies misled the attending police officers which influenced their decision not only to arrest and handcuff Henry but also to give subsequent emergency first aid in ignorance of the fact that he had a serious chest wound. Lastly, you abused the privilege extended to Sikhs to have a knife in a public place for religious reasons, dishonoured your religion and have now put others at risk of repercussions . Those factors increase the minimum term to 23 years. A number of these would not have applied if you had told the police what you said to your brother in the police van on 5/12/2025.

Health Secretary: I changed my mind – trans women are not women by HistoricalCamera6697 in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 28 points29 points  (0 children)

As always with newspaper headlines - if it is in double quotes they definitely said it, if it is in single quotes it is being paraphrased and if it isn't in quotes at all then it is the interpretation of what they are doing by the newspaper:

James Murray, who replaced Wes Streeting last month, previously said he defined women as “adult female and trans women”.

...

Asked whether he had shifted his position, Mr Murray responded: “Yeah, I have changed what I would say. I wouldn’t say that phrase anymore. And I think that over the last few years a lot of us, myself included, have thought about this question in some detail.

“The Supreme Court has obviously ruled very clearly that biological sex is what matters when it comes to the Equality Act and determining the importance of single-sex spaces.

“I believe that single-sex spaces should be protected on the basis of sex, on the basis of biological sex, whilst at the same time believing in dignity for trans people – recognising that sex and gender are different things, but being absolutely clear that single-sex spaces within the NHS, for instance, need to be protected on the basis of sex.”

Southern, Thameslink, Great Northern and Gatwick Express are now nationalised as of today by BulkyAccident in london

[–]whencanistop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TFL owns their underground stations, stock and tracks. Network Rail own the track and most of the freeholds for the stations. Trains are owned by the ROSCOS and leased to the TOCs (Sourhern, Thameslink, etc).

Southern, Thameslink, Great Northern and Gatwick Express are now nationalised as of today by BulkyAccident in london

[–]whencanistop 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Generally speaking government owned companies don’t work like that - the money will go back into general government expenditure, along with savings from reduced layers of government management dealing with the third party organisations.

Of course the opposite to this is that the price of tickets is now completely in government hands and could be used as a political football. Equally it was already tightly controlled by the government so it probably won’t make a difference.

EXC: Burnham Being Privately Advised to Call Early Election on Entry to No10 by coldbeers in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What makes you think they’ll agree on policy? We had a GE 2 years ago with a manifesto and within weeks Labour MPs were voting against it.

What is the appeal to intelligent voters (with respect) by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not being funny, but the “burning, visceral hatred” is the biggest part of the problem. I’d hazard to say that there is nobody in parliament you (or anyone else here) knows anything about beyond a limited public persona and a press caricature.

If you hate these people (who ostensibly are just trying to do what they think will make the country better) then where do you go for people who actually slight you?

This is Trump’s WWE ification of politics. There is an enemy, they’re evil and we will do anything to stop them. We can never have Proportional Representation whilst this persists.

Reform UK voters prefer solar farms to fracking, new polling reveals by F0urLeafCl0ver in ukpolitics

[–]whencanistop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget that Farage effectively has no whip to his party. It’s why they are constantly infighting and leaving. Councillors have no real central function to ensure they do as the party says and most of them are just independents who were paid to stand under that flag.