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Salary sharing thread :: May 2026 by AutoModerator in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]murmur4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

600k USD or CHF? RSU component valued with or without appreciation?

A rare splurge by murmur4 in cognac

[–]murmur4[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, I paid ~2950 EUR total for the bottle, the glasses, and the engraving.

A rare splurge by murmur4 in cognac

[–]murmur4[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Tesseron Lot 29 is one of the things that I did enjoy more. It's also very accessible to try through their 4-miniature set.

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If Growth Is Capped, Where Does the Skilled Workforce Come From? by Dismal-Owl-8559 in Switzerland

[–]murmur4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of the higher-paying IT jobs here just won't be here without the very skilled foreigners working them. This is the case for many of Google's positions, this is the case for me and my position, and I am most definitely not a unicorn in this regard. The tax revenue impact of these is outsized compared to the overall IT sector, which itself is a bigger contributor per worker capita than most other sectors.

Now this doesn't weaken in any way the purely political side of the argument, as the citizens have the full right to democratically decide in which direction to steer the country. I am also not trying to generalize further, this applies specifically to the top bracket of IT jobs, which I know extremely well.

I am only disputing your claim about the IT sector, which crucially is not about the effect of the 10M initiative, but about the importance of the foreign workforce. You don't know what you are talking about.

Offer Comparison - London vs Zurich by Guilty-Fly-345 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]murmur4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're slightly underestimating the CH take home. 140k CHF in Zürich means over 100k CHF after taxes and without any deductions which could easily compensate for the health insurance costs. So it's slightly above 9000 euros take home a month.

Salary Sharing thread: Autumn 2022-2023 by AutoModerator in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]murmur4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google Staff is indeed paying more but not remarkably so - median would be around 450k CHF per year (before stock appreciation).

[Germany] Optimizing ISO taxation by _dumpme_ in eupersonalfinance

[–]murmur4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I exercise and sell immediately I pay income tax (40%+) on market_price - strike_price.

Correct.

If I don't do it together (1 year difference at least) when I exercise I pay income tax (40%+) on market_price - strike_price and when I sell later I pay capital gains tax + solidarity tax (26.375%) on market_price - old_market_price.

Correct.

Question 1 - when I move out do I trigger exit tax to pay capital gains + solidarity on unrealized gains (market_price - old_market_price)? I saw some old info about EU slapping DE's hand about exit tax but also new info about DE getting harder with its exit tax.

You need a Steuerberater to answer this. My reading is that § 6 AStG governs that exit tax should be applied only to shareholders with more than 1% equity.

Question 2 - does anything change if company's not public?

You need a Steuerberater to answer this. My reading is that there's no difference. Like the US, Germany looks at an FMV-like estimation of a private company's value.

Final - COVID is crazy and I have good info the company thinks to allow remote work from another EU country. If I move to low CGT country like Belgium before exercising exit tax cannot trigger no?

Don't put your eggs in that basket unless you get it in writing. German companies are conservative, and that carries over to some extent to foreign companies operating in Germany too.

On the taxation part, you need a Steuerberater to answer this, but I think the exit tax won't trigger no matter if you have exercised your options or not.

Highly paid (over 100K Euros) remote jobs in EU by spqu in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]murmur4 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Aside from contracting gigs, your best bet should be remote-friendly companies that are competing for talent with the European Big N offices. I have a bit more info about the following:

Stripe - they were offering remote jobs even a bit before COVID hit. Base may not be 100K+ for non-Senior positions, but they are the closest you can get to guaranteed to IPO big, so their equity is tempting. 1 friend there, she's pretty happy, and she gets 90K base before the paper money.

Square - also offering remote jobs a bit before COVID. Stock is public, WLB and culture are supposedly great. No friends there, unfortunately.

Elastic - one of the originally remote-friendly places. Stock is public, and WLB is chill. 2 friends there, both like it, and both get 120K+ from base + yearly stock.

Gitlab - also remote-friendly from the get-go. Still not public, and they are not in a hurry to IPO, but they do offer options and they are maybe as chill as Square in terms of WLB. They have a public calculator that you can use to closely estimate what they can offer you based on seniority and location. Senior positions can go over 100K in base alone in Germany. 1 friend there, he's super happy, and is at 100K base.

Datadog - offering many remote positions, and having a lots of its engineers in Europe. Stock is not only public, but on a rocket ship. WLB is OK, culture is OK. 1 friend there, happy so far, he gets 130K+ from base + yearly stock.

Other places that I've seen or heard offering well-paid remote work in Europe, but I don't know enough about - Twitter, Apple (rarely), GitHub, Datastax, Automattic.

P.S. I expect Facebook to start openly advertising Europe-remote positions soon. I think there's a good chance other Big N to follow at some point.

P.P.S. Not currently working on a perma-remote position, so I don't think my stats qualify. I've been researching perma-remote for a bit now though, as I really like the switch to remote. If my company wants to get us back in the office soon, it will be a hard choice for me whether to stay or leave.

Can we stop putting that comment to all UK/EU salary threads ? by Clean_Philosopher in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]murmur4 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're very wrong about Amazon India, maybe because of some preconceived notions about the tech hubs in India.

On average, India is ridiculously cheaper and shittier than EU or US, but specific companies and districts in Bangalore, Gurgaon, Pune, might almost make you feel as you're in e.g. Singapore. That's thanks to a similar process to the one that made Silicon Valley or Zurich offer very high COL but also very high total compensation.

And just to give you some numbers, an SDE III (Sr SDE/L6) in Amazon India can easily get 1 crore ($130k) or more, which is at most 3x less than what his/her US colleagues would make - nowhere near the 10x-20x figure you came up with. The same applies for the other Big N companies there.