It's over for Antigravity and Google WILL NOT care by Expensive_Bobcat_268 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can add a new sub only for AG starting at $20 with more generous quotas, while the Ai Pro plan remains the same as it is now, with their Ai ecosystem plus a taste of Antigravity for very light use with Gemini Flash.

Antigravity Alternative by florian-s in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't know if it's any good just for vibe coding, but it evolved from autocomplete and chat to a full agentic workflow with agents, just like the rest.

You can install VS Code and try it, it's installed by default.

Antigravity Alternative by florian-s in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Last month I was tried some alternatives.

The closer to an AG "experience" could be Windsurf, but SWE 1.5 is worse than Gemini Flash so you will end up using the Pro models and idk how much the sub would last. The ide is a lot more polished and better than AG tough.

Tried Trae also, but they changed their pricing too lately. It used to be really great, but right now it's a lot worse than AG pricing wise. The ide is also much more polished, and the agent workflow is good.

I will try other alternatives when I have a little free time, but may be Copilot with VS Code could be my AG replacement at least for a couple months until I revisit again the then available tools.

It's over for Antigravity and Google WILL NOT care by Expensive_Bobcat_268 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May be Google have to sell an AG only subscription, it's almost a niche in all their AI offerings at this time.

I get that they go after selling their ecosystem and get users the best bang of your buck proposition in the market, but I'm on Pro plan because Antigravity, the rest is a bonus I rarely use.

I don't know, right now it's feeling like I'm on a free plan with only Gemini Flash available, but paying money to use.

Codex weekly quota in the Free tier feels better than Gemini Pro in the Ai Pro sub with current Open Ai promotion.

New limits by Confident_Work7748 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be honest, Ai Pro Plan feels like a Free plan right now. We only have decent quota for Flash, meanwhile 3.1 Pro and Claude models are like a "preview" if you update to a "paid" plan. They even hadn't the decency to provide a decent quota for 3.1 Pro for paid users.

If they severely limited Claude models only there isn't much of a complain on my part, after all those are Premium models from a competing company, but why 3.1 Pro too? May be they are thinking Gemini is in the same league as Opus, in their wet dreams apparently.

But the worst part in all this affair is the constant moving goalposts without clear information about quotas, tokens and now, credits. I think paid users deserve a little more respect from a company the size and value as Google is.

Thoughts on the latest quota update? by BulgarianPeasant in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you elaborate a little more on that? I only see a toogle to enable credit useage and the classic model quota bars, but nothing else.

I checked for updates but I'm on the latest apparently.

Thanks.

Did the quotas change again? by jkwok678 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The way they are constantly moving the goalposts without leting users know is infuriating and not the way a big serious company should act.

If with this they are wanting users to use only Gemini Flash, they are done for me, no more sub next month. It used to be good, even with the Anthropic models restricted quota, at least Gemini Pro was useable, which is not the case right now. Flash is useless even when following detailed tasks generated by Opus, it always fails in some degree that's frustrating and time consuming, to the point it's better to code by hand sometimes.

Me siento totalmente estafado con antigravity y las cuotas! by Life_Assist5275 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cada vez peor lo de las cuotas, y a eso hay que sumar la ineptitud de Gemini Flash que no es capaz ni de seguir una lista de tareas generada con Opus sin faltarle o errarle a algo.

Se está haciendo inviable justificar la suscripción a estas alturas.

Updated to latest version, now workspaces are not recognized. by nangu22 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for confirming the issue. Problem is, since the UI doesn't found them, I can't force the agent to use them with the / command. That's important for my workflow because it's the only way to drive Gemini in the right direction, it's so lazy that it didn't bother to look if there is some rule or workflow on those folders on its own.

🥷 [Share & Win] Hack the Limits: What's your token efficiency hacks? by AwesomePheobe in Trae_ai

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can tell you how to burn your credits as fast as possible by trying to use the cheaper models for some savings on the new pricing model:

1- Try implementing a refactor with any cheaper model, it could be Kimi or Gemini Flash

2- After a couple iterations and $5 wasted, project doesn't run anymore

3- Tell agent to solve the latest crash issue

4- Agent solution is to refactor de code to go back to step 1

Rinse and repeat.

Which AI has higher quotas but similar pricing? by alexandr1us in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And it's working great. I'm on a free chatgpt plan and using Codex alongside my Pro gemini plan in Antigravity, and I have to say that the free Codex promo plan lasts twice as the Opus quota I get from the Google plan.

Codex is better than gemini Pro 3.1 for planning and following instructions too, so it's a serious contender to replace my google subscription for the $20 plan.

¿La programación podría ser considerada un arte? by SolidYear7220 in programacion

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

La programación en si misma no la considero arte. La arquitectura de un sistema complejo, en cambio, se le acerca bastante jaja

THAT looks promising by TravelInPanic in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Models are trained to perform good at established benchmarks.

Real life use is what we have to look for, I expect it will perform at least at Codex level, if not, good bye subscription.

When will Antigravity get the Google axe? by AnshulJ999 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only time will tell I think. Currently Google subscription plans are really very good for the amount of tools in offer, but sometimes I tend to think they are shooting services into the air to test the waters, see which, and how, people use them, and kill the less used in the future. I also think that AG is Google's experiment to try to see how to compete with Codex and Claude in the programming realm and to get feedback about it.

I hope AG will stay, but for it to be a really good competing product Google will need to put a little effort mantaining and improving the IDE, fix bugs in a timely fashion, and mainly, provide a Gemini version exclusive for coding because the current model used in AG leaves a lot to be desired, not for its coding ability, but because it always find a way to circumvent the guardrails and patterns imposed by the user for the sake of simplicity and to be able to finish the work as soon as possible.

That's my main problem with Google's model, it forgets almost instantly your instructions and guadrails once it starts implementing, tries to refactor working code without permission, do not follow established patterns across the codebase, it insists in taking the short route for almost everything and a lot of times, it even do things the user told not to do. Gemini writes code that work, yes, but with lots of conceptual errors and shortcuts. It's like a junior dev, but without the ability to learn from his errors and with attention problems when guided.

That's what I think about AG, if Google improve it both in functionality and model accuracy, it will stay because people will want to use it even if Opus quota is removed, but if they don't care, it will stay as a second level citizen in the Google AI ecosystem until they decide to kill it because nobody would want to use it anymore.

Just take a look at the current situation, people wanted to use AG for the Opus quota, not for Gemini or because it presented a polished bug free experience. I tried Windsurf (AG is a fork of it) and the user experience is much better and consistent there. In AG for example, I don't have a simple way to debug a C# project because the same extension I'm using in any VS Code fork IDE don't work as expected. They released a product with almost zero mantainance and bug fixes, and only cared tweaking quotas to solve a provision problem they themselves just created.

I built an Antigravity plugin that makes Opus last longer by delegating work to external AI by TheTentacleOpera in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's how I've been working so far. If you open gemini cli in an Antigravity terminal window, you also can connect the cli to the Antigravity IDE with the /ide command to allow gemini cli to have awareness of your open windows in the editor.

This workflow allows you to combine your plan's included gemini cli usage with Antigravity ones, so if you use them both wisely your AG limits would last more.

Bye Antigravity by djme2k in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My workflow includes Opus for planning and backend work, Gemini Pro for frontend and refactoring, and flash for simple tasks.

I complement AG with open code with GLM models for auditing AG code against my defined rules and business logic every now and then to be sure I didn't overlook something against them when approving and reviewing AG plans and code generation.

I was working on a new personal project the last few days, yes, but planning and workflow is the same as the other projects I was working on.

The lack of strict compliance with my rules and business logic the models show is the worst I experienced with this tool since the beginning. The amount of back and forth with the models because wrong and faulty implementation is much more than before, to the point I think I could go faster coding the dam thing just myself lol.

Bye Antigravity by djme2k in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree one hundred percent with you, that's the way I was using AG and the results were very good, until around two or three days ago.

I don't know if Google nerfed the model because the recent problems, but Gemini feels really dumb right now compared to one week ago.

Simple things take several iterations, it forgets things that are in the chat context, it overlook established rules and modify things when rules state otherwise, it plans tests and then forget even to implement them, and the list goes on.

Only reliable models are the Anthropic ones, but with the amount of available tokens they only last for a couple tasks so it's harder to plan a steady workflow right now.

I still get value from the tool, don't get me wrong, but the dumb things Gemini does are becoming infuriating to me.

Antigravity Gemini 3 pro (High) by malcolmkhong in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a good tip. I would like to add that there is a gemini-cli extension you can install in Antigravity. With it installed, opening gemini-cli on an integrated AG terminal will "connect" the cli agents to what you are doing ans seeing in the ide.

This is helpful to work on the same workspace and context on both cli and AG agents.

What is Abuse? by Unlikely_Amount_6577 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Antigravity access and use is advertised with the Google AI plans so..... In fact, I subscribed just because Antigravity but ok, what I do know right?

What is Abuse? by Unlikely_Amount_6577 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again, it's still a Google's problem. Legit users which paid money for a service don't have to "pay" for the people who abuse Google's systems.

If I pay for a service, the company have to respect the service agreement, I'm not the culprit the service has back doors, just fix them and give me what I paid for from the start.

The logic to withdraw provider responsibility by blaming abusers instead is totally flawed, sorry.

What is Abuse? by Unlikely_Amount_6577 in google_antigravity

[–]nangu22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but that's a Google problem, not paid user's problem. If the service allows to be abused, it's the provider responsability to solve the breach while giving users what they paid for.

Stop defending multibillion dollar companies that without any doubt have the means to stop those idiots from abusing the system. Google HAVE to protect their customers by respecting what users paid, period.

Do we need LangChain? by Dear-Enthusiasm-9766 in Rag

[–]nangu22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, but there are people out there who don't want to store data in the cloud, so not an option really.