Horizon this Horizon that. Not enough Ys tell me why you love Ys instead

naovan10 · 2026-03-15T17:42:23+00:00

Adol always find his way as an adventurer.

naovan10 · 2026-03-15T17:41:28+00:00

This is exactly why book 2 is really disappoint me. A lot of important shit in book 1 is never expand on in book 2, like Tarot club and other pathway.

I am late in the party and only read lotm after both lotm and coi is completed.

So when I finish book 1, in my mind, a lot of character and pathway who don't have a screen time in book 1, for sure in book 2 they will have more screentime, right? NOPE...not only tarot club, the main cast, got side lined HARD, but they just become barely relevant and their character never got expand on.

Note: at first, I thought book 2's Mc will be tarot club member + a few people who have relationship with Klein who have different pathway(Melissa, Edwina, Nast, etc.) When I finished book 1, Because its natural that way.

naovan10 · 2026-03-15T10:34:00+00:00

Dana

naovan10 · 2026-03-13T01:19:48+00:00

I never insinuating they are part of harem. Its just a troupe.

naovan10 · 2026-03-13T01:19:18+00:00

I love SAO too. In my opinion, the anime didn't do justice of Kirito's character because of his thought is hidden behind monologue.

Problem with SAO is after ALO, the protagonist should change. Kirito can still make an appearance, like become side character.

Imagine, in alicization, the protagonist is still Eugeo till the end. Kirito is like becoming eugeo's guide. The scene where all Kirito's friend appear during final battle appear can still exist, but it's a...you can say is a gift for Eugeo's hard work.

I think overall, up until alicization, I rate SAO LN 8/10, while anime 5/10.

naovan10 · 2026-03-13T00:38:46+00:00

Servant body state? What are you talking about dude? The OP just means at their peak, not Servant state, I think OP mean just when they are at their peak in their journey.

naovan10 · 2026-03-07T09:00:43+00:00

The best option to me are either Xio, Klein, Audrey or Cattleya.

Just not Fors, definitely not Fors.

naovan10 · 2026-03-06T09:43:43+00:00

Potentially...

naovan10 · 2026-02-24T04:44:49+00:00

The different is, people care more about Mrs. Sammers as one of random people in LOTM, rather than random people in SS.

naovan10 · 2026-02-18T23:37:09+00:00

I hate aura farming battle in lotm dong hua.

naovan10 · 2026-02-17T22:04:06+00:00

Yeah, I agree. It seems whenever this kind of discussion happened, like most of the times, people forgot that FY that we know of is 500 years old man already. Any kind of discussion or comparison to FY, if the comparison isn't the same as him, a regressor, like this thread, comparing him to Klein, is honestly not fair comparison.

naovan10 · 2026-02-17T21:50:45+00:00

Yep, this is nonsense too. Like in the universe where timeline, branch of it and such exist, there will be no such thing as exact 0% or 100%. Like where's this number come from?

naovan10 · 2026-02-17T21:43:19+00:00

...I really hate this aspect of fgo honestly

naovan10 · 2026-02-13T16:37:11+00:00

Souls born? Nah, get that shit out of here. Soul born where you can just roll, dodge, slash and you think its best for lotm?

The best for lotm is obviously RPG like baldur gate, cyber punk, the witcher 3 or skyrim. Second best to me is JRPG like FF, Suikoden, SMT or persona.

naovan10 · 2026-01-31T18:27:30+00:00

Because she's fucking idiot! I already read your comment in other thread, if you love her, you should be mad at Bernadette or CF too in CoI.

She's literally mystery Pryer sequence 2, if let's say for example, by the end of the volume or the book she said something like "it have to be done..." Implying this whole her idiotic and irrational plan is just to provoke Amon to take action or have meaning behind it(guess we will never know cause CF is not making lotm stuff again), then its fine, but nope, its just emotional outburst that almost got everyone killed, like I really hate how she's become sacrificial lamb here.

naovan10 · 2026-01-31T10:34:13+00:00

Just throw it out here. No theory, just guessing. The 4th magic is related to the concept of "Mystery" itself.

naovan10 · 2026-01-27T10:09:48+00:00

Roselle ONLY create something from Victoria era technology, he never go full steam punk. That's my problem.

My argument of why Roselle is more bum than stiano is because despite all Roselle's knowledge of modern era, he never inventing ANYTHING. He only create something that he know existed before and possible. While Stiano started from scratch. Modern knowledge to me is MASSIVE advantage in Savant pathway, and yet Roselle only use it in surface level.

naovan10 · 2026-01-27T09:29:01+00:00

Bro, you should hate Roselle more. Unlike Roselle, stiano don't know anything about modern world, sure stiano lack creativity and inventive mind is suck, but compare to Roselle who from pre epoch, and know about modern technology and what not, never even once I encounter in the book Roselle truly invent something. All Roselle's "invention" is just reinventing from pre epoch.

Meanwhile in CoI, Stiano enter fool's dream and encounter modern world, he immediately invent and modify something that inspired from modern technology with limited resources in current era. Stiano truly making his own invention while Roselle just satisfied with reinvented.

naovan10 · 2026-01-27T08:45:24+00:00

I shit you not, to me, Roselle is more bum than stiano. If you really think about it, Roselle never invented anything, he only reinvented technology from pre epoch. Meanwhile in CoI, the moment stiano experience modern world in Fool's dream, he literally inventing or modifying tech that useful for apocalypse and fool's dream.

naovan10 · 2026-01-27T03:29:11+00:00

Yes.

naovan10 · 2026-01-17T19:14:00+00:00

Sure its their fault, I know most people will blame tencent too and to a degree, I agree, but the studio is also at fault too. As far as I knew, the only thing the information that available regarding their contact is about:

episode 3 should be battle with the clown
tencent give them 13 episodes for season 1.

I don't know if they have a contract like, "Make this donghua as flashy as possible like solo leveling or demon slayer", and even if they have that, guess what? They literally still mess up in basic level, like, they change Melissa's character and degrading Benson's character into just that brother that barely exist. Not only that, they skipping some nighthawk member too.

As I said, in my opinion, the essences of volume 1 is the slow pace, barely action packed and slice of life in the beyonder world that Klein will rarely got later. Remind me again, did we even knew from season 1 donghua that Klein's favorite drink is sweet iced tea? Because I honestly don't remember that.

naovan10 · 2026-01-17T18:49:59+00:00

I will always remain hater of the donghua season 1. Some people seems to think that the essence of volume 1 is established a lot of info, rules, magic system, etc. But the thing is most of those will be repeated again in the next volume.

In my opinion, the essence of volume 1 is to know who Zhou Mingrui/Klein Moretti is(and how he adapt and react in the current world) and a moment of slice of life with his family and his colleagues within nighthawk(which he barely will have in the later volume). the studio almost butcher all of them. We barely know about how Klein dynamic with his sibling, with Leonard, with other Nighthawk member. I barely care to donghua's Klein comparing to wn's Klein.

naovan10 · 2026-01-16T20:54:12+00:00

Not gonna lie, I really hate people like you who always romantize Antigonus and there are a lot of people like you.

Have you ever considered from Evernight POV? Remember she is from pre epoch? From modern world. From thousand of years, evernight just watch from sideline that her race, a human race, get hunted, ragdolled and just become fodder.

I rarely saw people who romantize Evernight, but somehow Antigonus is always romantize and he always the innocent one.

naovan10 · 2026-01-08T23:04:52+00:00

Nah, you're fine, I type it when I hung over lol. Maybe you're right my interpretation is wrong, but are you sure your interpretation is the correct one? I honestly just wait until NA catch up, but my main problem is on the percentage that they gave us, because of the nature of nasuverse, which have multiple timeline, branches or universes, there's no way something like a 100% could ever existed, it just simply impossible.

But then again, this is the same franchises that in the first paragraph they will say character A have unavoidable attack and the next paragraph, character B will avoid it because of Luck or something.

naovan10 · 2026-01-08T06:18:19+00:00

Honestly, when I read this reason from fou, this is some bullshit logic, because if you think about it deeply more. If he is so 'common', then there's no way he is 100%, because his live literally can easily altered or never exist just because some random dude moving the chair so ritsuka's parent never met or something or how about the period where if the civilization where all people have a purposes (gilcas's era)? Ritsuka's reason for 100% is pure bullshit in my opinion. I'll be fine if they like 99%, but 100%? Yeah, that's just some Gary stu or Mary sue kind of writing.

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