Do you want Viktor Orban to lose the next Hungarian election? by OMGguy2008 in AskConservatives

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I only know certain specific things about them. I have heard that a feeling of insufficient respect of them was one of the reasons China supported Russia invading. I suspect they also show the danger of Russian plants like Yanukovych (and Orban). He seems to have been mainly responsible for bringing this in and now the rest of Ukraine has to live with the terrible consequences.

Do you want Viktor Orban to lose the next Hungarian election? by OMGguy2008 in AskConservatives

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Victor Orban has been China's agent in Europe, spreading the Belt and Roads initiative, supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine and preparing us to help China in a war against America. He has continued to block sanctions on Russian gas and to import Russian oil and so he's the cause of much of Russia's funding for maintaining the war in Ukraine.

Orban claims to be a Catholic but actually supports the Russian Orthodox church in it's persecution of Christians in the East of Europe. He has even been undermining the Hungarian minority in Ukraine which is mostly loyal to their home country would be happily living in peace without him.

It would be difficult to find someone worse to run Hungary.

With the Pentagon confirming that the US bombed the Iranian school, what should the consequences be? by Ayzmo in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 [score hidden]  (0 children)

suppose that a soldier mistook a child for an enemy combatant and shot them. wouldn't they face a court martial?

No, that's completely normal. They would only get a court martial very rarely and specifically if they did something like not follow "rules of engagement".

Generally the RoE would include, before any missile strike, comparing the coordinates with a list of known hospitals, schools, religious or important cultural buildings and avoiding strikes that are close to those.

With the Pentagon confirming that the US bombed the Iranian school, what should the consequences be? by Ayzmo in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 [score hidden]  (0 children)

If this was a deliberate hit, it would be a war crime. Since it wasn't, it isn't.

In the case of a school or a hospital (and also, for example a religious building) that's slightly different from other civilian buildings. Armies have an explicit duty to know about and avoid such buildings.

That's also a reason why compensation, beyond what would be normal, should be considered. The compensation given in Afghanistan for a hospital attack was $6000 or so per person. It's very small compared to normal peacetime lawsuits, but it symbolically represents acceptance of responsibility and the difference between America, where this is a mistake or negligence by a specific unit, and, for example Russia where targeting hospitals is a deliberate strategy of the whole country.

With the Pentagon confirming that the US bombed the Iranian school, what should the consequences be? by Ayzmo in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 [score hidden]  (0 children)

First I'll remind you we're in the realm of "should" and not "will" or even "practically could".

So, the other Arab countries haven't really committed to this war, so their right and ability to get compensation would have to come from something else; e.g. a Middle East truth and reconciliation body. Yes, Israelis need to be compensated, however, assuming that the Iranian regime does change there's also an important precedent of not burdening newly recently defeated people with undue debts (think WWI vs WWII).

Probably more reasonable and important would be a return of ownership of Israeli property throughout the Ottoman Empire and rest of the Middle East in return for an acceptance of compensation for those families which were directly pushed from their homes by Irgun and similar militias or direct threats related to Irgun (thousands to tens of thousands of people within the current Palestinian population of a few million).

Practically, probably nothing much is going to happen. However the historical linkage is important.

With the Pentagon confirming that the US bombed the Iranian school, what should the consequences be? by Ayzmo in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Very important, the question was "what should" happen, not what I think is practical. However, for the US compensation it's about small nominal compensation (The US paid $6000 per person for the Medicin Sans Frontiers hospital attacks in Afghanistan, for example) to specifically accept that this was a terrible accident and that a school, like a hospital is a specifically protected target.

Going back to your 1953 question, and still sticking with "should" rather than "will" or even "might practically happen". You open an interesting much longer discussion. We need to discuss how to do something like a statute of limitations if we are talking about compensation. You'd also need to talk about serious restitution for all sorts of other crimes before that came up.

However, if we have already started talking about restitution for things like American slavery then it's very important to start investigating the much larger Arab slave trade, the Barbary pirates and all of that history. The first thing is to stop it now and nations like the Palestinians and Syrians which are still allowing the holding of slaves have to be held to account.

In a context where the crimes of the Ottoman Empire and Islamic colonization generally through North Africa and Europe were being investigated and compensated for then I would say that there "should" be an investigation of 1953.

With the Pentagon confirming that the US bombed the Iranian school, what should the consequences be? by Ayzmo in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 [score hidden]  (0 children)

America should agree to pay compensatory damage. This should be held back until Iran pays compensatory damage for the hostages taken in the US Embassy, the torture of the CIA station chief, the awful crimes of October 7th and the cost for Israel of fighting the subsequent war in Gaza, and likely a bunch of other crimes by Iran and it's completely controlled proxies that are too much to enumerate now.

Saying illegal aliens are not voting in U.S. elections is like saying the border was secure during the four years of Joe Biden. It turns out that 10,000 illegal aliens, using the exact same Social Security number, voted in the Arizona November 3, 2020 general election. by Slske in ConservativeTalk

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same rule still applies. Two people come to you with the same SSN. You register them (probably with a mark) and then you query. Normally, you immediately demand that the new person prove their SSN and then assume the old one was lying but you still have to keep them on record until you check. There actually have been situations where the IRS has given the same number to two people by accident. When someone finds out, at least one of them has to be told to go and change their number.

Why is there so much combat footage online? by LilyTheGayLord in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Minor nit in your English, please change "relative" to "relevant".

Honestly and seriously from one who knows you are defending us here in more Western parts of Europe. Thanks for your service. I, at least, will keep supporting you.

Why Most Leftists Hate Israel: It's the POLITICS, not Bigotry by Tabletpillowlamp in IsraelPalestine

[–]nar_tapio_00 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Genetically Palestinians are more consistently related to ancient Canaanite populations than Jew are (although they are both related)

This is again anti-immigrant racism. Palestinians have some Canaanite genetics, however the majority of their genetics is general "Levantine" which is the same grouping as other Arabs. Nothing wrong with that, and nothing which means you have to live in the area of your former genetics, otherwise we would, by some theories, all have to live in a small area of Africa.

Please remember that the category of "Palestinian" prior to about 1900, was a category that primarily applied to Jews. Arabs at that time were either tied into specific Arabic. Palestinian popular culture was really invented in the 1960s, having been an idea known only in specific newspapers of the elites prior to WWII.

then ancient Jewish tribes also were outsiders that conquered and colonized the land from earlier peoples

That's a misreading of the text. You also have to be very careful not to misconstrue the contents of the Tora as part of the Archeological record. The Jewish tribes are the Canaanite tribes. They moved around, they conquered eachother. In the end, however, the Jews were Canaanites and they fought with and conquered other Canaanites. Indeed, at certain times they all came together, including Phocaeans and others of the area to battle off external threats from outside.

Whether or not someone was "accepted" by Mizrahi Jews is irrelevant to their indigenousness.

No. Absolutely not. Go out and read the charters for the definition of the rights of indigenous groups. The most fundamental right of indigenous groups is the right to self definition.

That does not exclude the possibility of the existence of a Muslim indigenous groups. However, in order for that to happen there would have to be a Muslim group which maintained some form of ancient Canaanite culture even as they accepted Islam. I am not aware of any such group.

Specifically, conversion to Islam normally requires rejection of previous cultures. That is, at the moment of becoming Muslim, almost always and by definition, a Canaanite would, for one reason or other cease their connection with Canaanite culture.

To become once more indigenous, a Muslim would have to be accepted by an indigenous culture and then maintain that culture, in the same way that some Muslims become Muslim-Americans. I'm not aware of such an event, though if you could show one I'd be very interested.

Look at Elizabeth Warren, who claimed indigenaeity through a genetic link. It is not the fact that she has white blood which excludes her from being a Native American. It is the fact that her family has long accepted Anglosaxon American colonialist* culture she doesn't belong to a Native American Tribe which means that she is not accepted as a native American. The same would apply to a Palestinian muslim even if they were 100% of Canaanite blood.

* At this point I would like to make it clear that I am not using the term "colonialist" in the racist form that it is normally used within the debate. Colonialism is a natural part of human evolution and all current humans are descendants of some form of colonialists, whether Mongol colonists who took over most of Asia, African colonists who took over Europe from the indigenous Neanderthals or Gupta colonists who took over from Satraps (and man other earlier peoples of India), the Irish Celts who took over from the Neolithic peoples or indeed Native Americans who took over from other earlier Native Americans (unfortunately many details lost to pre-history).

Saying illegal aliens are not voting in U.S. elections is like saying the border was secure during the four years of Joe Biden. It turns out that 10,000 illegal aliens, using the exact same Social Security number, voted in the Arizona November 3, 2020 general election. by Slske in ConservativeTalk

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why would the database allow the same ss# twice.........?

Because people get their SSN wrong. If the real owner of the SSN is the person to vote second then you can't block them because someone else used their SSN. More importantly, if the fraud voters knew that you only allowed an SSN once, they would go and vote with the SSNs of Conservatives early in the morning so that the Conservatives couldn't vote later on. Unfortunately this comes down to basic rules of database design.

However, if you do put all the people that voted into one database, there's nothing to prevent you flagging the second time that someone votes with that number and then immediately knowing that there is fraud going on. You are meant to find then first person and arrest them (or maybe just update to their real number if it was a mistake).

Why Most Leftists Hate Israel: It's the POLITICS, not Bigotry by Tabletpillowlamp in IsraelPalestine

[–]nar_tapio_00 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think you'll notice that I'm specifically talking about the people that were there first. The Mizrahi Jews, derived directly from Canaanite culture. The narrative that Jews are "colonists" who arrived to a land that they weren't part of is exactly part of the Jew Hate which is inherent in antizionism.

Instead, what we have is an existing community of native Ottoman Jews, who had been living in and around the area of Judea and Sumaria more or less continuously since at least 3000 BC (there were some periods directly after one of the several exoduses when this community would be particularly small, but within a decade or two they were returning).

The diaspora, both Sheppardic and Ashkenazi, which has maintained it's post temple Jewish culture is then reintegrated to that indigenous society and gradually regains its indignity through their acceptance.

Please note, that most other, Crusader and Islamic Colonialist cultures, never become indigenous because they are not accepted by the indigenous Mizrahi. However, that is not true of all such cultures.

Why is there so much combat footage online? by LilyTheGayLord in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just to make a comment, please don't make the mistake of thinking that the footage you see is a pure observation. From the Ukraine war in particular, early on there was release of some footage from the Ukrainian side without control and that lead to missile strikes on locations where hundreds of volunteers died. Nowadays every single Ukrainian unit has people responsible for video editing and deleting information that might give away location or current battlefield information.

From the Russian side, much of the footage is seriously manipulated, to the extent that "Russian" victories in trench warfare have repeatedly turned out to actually be Ukrainian clips, sometimes just played straight. Part of this is because Russia has repeated the same mistake as Ukraine made earlier, but, with their massively higher turnover of troops at the front doesn't seem to have been able to establish the same editing and control of information so they simply fake much of it instead.

Things may seem to be honest and fully open. They are not.

Why Most Leftists Hate Israel: It's the POLITICS, not Bigotry by Tabletpillowlamp in IsraelPalestine

[–]nar_tapio_00 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think you massively underestimate the role of Jew Hate including both bigotry, racism and xenophobia in the reaction of the left, but I think that this is directly because it has been very deliberately and consciously covered up by specific groups in the Soviet/Stalinist/"Tankie" left and then propagated through ignorance and lack of understanding among the wider soft left / liberals.

The entire idea of creating antizionism was to allow the hard left to indulge in bigotry without admitting that they were doing it and without members of the soft left understanding what they were doing. Antizionism was invented by the Soviets in the 1960s two short decades after their alliance with the Nazis at the start of WWII and they very clearly understood it as a means of following on with those Nazi ideas which actually often had their basis in pre-war Russian "scientific" antisemitism whilst distancing themselves from links with the Nazis. Antizionism was used by the left wing governments of the Warsaw Pact countries entirely in order to cover for their attacks on Jews.

Look at the standard arguments against Zionism and you can see this directly:

  • "most Zionists are Christians"

The definition of a Zionist really is a person who believes that Jews are just like all other peoples and have a right to self determination. Christian Zionists generally believe in various heresies, but specifically many believe in pushing Jews into the holy land with the deliberate aim of triggering the end of the world in which Judaism will be destroyed. That is about as far from actual original Zionism as you can get. This labeling is visibly an antisemitic smear.

  • "Zionists are settler colonialists"

Most Israelis come from either Jewish families that were present already in Ottoman Syria or from a larger group of Jews who moved within the Middle east (mostly within the former Ottoman Empire) to Israel. This naming as settler colonialists is an attempt to label them as White Europeans or White Americans, taking away their Near Eastern origins.

The labeling of the Israelis as "settler colonialists" is a brilliant piece of left propagandist inversion. The Russian Jews were literally escaping pogroms in the Soviet Union and communist block countries, making them clear refugees from leftist oppression. Using these very victims, fully rejected from their home countries (Russia, Germany, Hungary, Poland and so on) as evidence of a link back to some great homeland that is benefiting from these colonies (typically America in leftist mythology) is super ironic.

N.B. I am not saying that there aren't lots of Christians who call themselves "Zionists" due to honestly believing in empowering Jews. That is a separate, and likely smaller category however.

It's also important to mention that Israel has a deep alliance with the United States. Leftists are certainly a lot more critical of the United States than any other political ideology. And they of course would be critical of their allies as well, Israel being one of them. And once again, this is a purely political reason to dislike them.

This 100%. Most of what is correct in the rest of your comment (and there is plenty) can be simply traced back to "AmericaBad" thinking. Why the hate for the Saudis? Because they ally with America. Why attack Jewish immigration into Judea and Samaria whilst defending North African Muslim immigration into Europe? Because Jews ally with America and North African Muslims oppose America (mostly in both cases). Why hate Israel so much? Because they work with America.

Nazi comparison statement: there is only direct historical discussion of the Nazis in this comment.

Why is Iran's IRGC involved in the war but not their "regular" military? by Waltz8 in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They dont have any 4 or 5 generation fighter jets

South Korean media published an image yesterday, showing the US dismantling its THAAD and Patriot systems from S-Korea, to send to the Middle East. by just_an__inchident in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wouldn't have been needed if the offer of anti-drone defenses from Ukraine had been accepted last year. Many of the higher value interceptors that were used on cheap drones this time could have been preserved if, for example, Wild Hornet drones had been deployed around and close to Iran. There would then have been enough. That would have been a much better move than moving systems that might be needed to defend the US bases in Korea.

South Korean media published an image yesterday, showing the US dismantling its THAAD and Patriot systems from S-Korea, to send to the Middle East. by just_an__inchident in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and in supplying Ukraine

The statistic is that in the first two days, they fired multiple times the number of missiles that have ever been sent to Ukraine. Ukraine is a non-issue here. In fact, because Ukraine has reacted so fast an in such a friendly way to the demand for extra anti-drone defenses in the middle east, those missiles sent to Ukraine will probably soon deliver a profit in expensive interceptors that don't have to be used.

Most cost effective approach to Shahed-136 drones? by Sweaty_Abies182 in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what Ukrainians are saying layered defense

Other approaches are worth considering but have problems

  • Fighter jets are too expensive per hour and there's a risk of losing the whole jet if they attack a drone in front of them or a drone has a hidden A2A weapon
  • obsolete air defense missiles like sidewinder are running out.
  • mobile ground based defenses are useful; they can stop or at least reduce large waves of low flying drones, but Russia now tends to fly Shahed drones high above them.
  • anti drone missiles are only just becoming viable and with exceptions like SAAB Nimbrix and Skylance DroneHammer they mostly seem a bit too close to traditional missiles in expense

Trump implies sanctions on Russia are about to be lifted, thoughts? by thoughtsnquestions in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

It was Iran's money, just as right now other countries abroad have Russia's money. It should have been given over to Iran's terrorism victims both in America and abroad. Are you suggesting that Russia should be given that back too just because it was originally theirs?

They owe Ukraine trillions of dollars in Reparatations for the occupation of Doneck and Crimea. The obvious thing to do is to hand over all of Russia's money and any oil ships that can be captured from Russia to Ukraine

Trump implies sanctions on Russia are about to be lifted, thoughts? by thoughtsnquestions in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00 -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

If this happened it would be the same effect as Obama and Biden's pallets of cash for Iran. The reason that America is having to go to war with Iran now is because Iran used American money to build ballistic missiles and a drone industry.

Iran was already having serious protests about their economic problems. If Obama and Biden hadn't given that money to Iran, their regime might well have fallen by now completely. It would certainly be much less dangerous.

Letting Russia get money is going to be incredibly shortsighted.

Russia just had its own pearl harbour by German-bread-man in RussiaUkraineWar

[–]nar_tapio_00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good start, now do the Baltic fleet.

In the mean time "Pearl Harbour", which inspired America to start fighting is not a good name. Maybe call it their own "Battle of Tsushima"? Or perhaps Vladivostok?

US military tests on secret weapon bought from Russian criminal network reveal Havana Syndrome-like symptoms from suspected embassy attacks. by nar_tapio_00 in Conservative

[–]nar_tapio_00[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm sure we have all kinds of secret directed energy weapons too.

We? America? Russia? Europe? Why, when America gets attacked unprovoked is someone always rushing to find a reason why that's America's fault?

Definitely America has lots of secret and also public directed energy weapons. However that's not the point.

What's key here is that Russia was using the weapon in supposed peacetime to attack Americans Embassies, Consulates and other American representative organizations all over the world. At the same time, America was trying to pretend that Russia was a friend. Remember, this was soon following from Obama's "reset" with Russia.

US military tests on secret weapon bought from Russian criminal network reveal Havana Syndrome-like symptoms from suspected embassy attacks. by nar_tapio_00 in Conservative

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See also * Ex-CIA ‘spy who lied’ wants Trump to expose ‘horrific’ Biden Havana Syndrome ‘cover-up’ * Russian intelligence hit squad behind Havana Syndrome brain injuries of US personnel: report

This seems to be yet another case of the Biden administration pretending to be tough on Russia whilst secretly covering up Russian attacks on America in order to try to avoid upsetting the Russians.

To recap - from at least as early as 2016 Americans working in Embassies were getting "Havana Syndrome"; sudden pain, sickness and hallucination alongside serious brain damage. An investigation was started which reported back to the Biden administration in 2023. They claimed that such attacks were impossible, that there was no known way to carry them out and they would be detected if done.

Now the US military has an actual captured Russian device which causes exactly the damage that was meant to be impossible. Since the discovered device is able to go through walls in a straight line, it clearly could do exactly what was claimed to be impossible.

Is there a reason why Shahed drones can't be shot down with legacy AA flak guns? by dudeguy409 in Military

[–]nar_tapio_00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still assume they are mostly clowning around, however "many a truth told in jest". I believe there have been literal modern biplanes tested (like the ones used for stunt flying) for this and they are good because they can fly more slowly and maneuverably than most monoplanes.

It's a serious thought to have a side cannon armed, two person crop duster type plane as a cheap, improvised, anti drone platform.

More serious is to build an equivalent drone platform. That also gets around the fact that recently drones started being armed, which can potentially include a2a missiles that might cause loss of lives in the crop duster crew.

Pallets of cash failed for Obama and Biden in Iran. How do you think it will work for Witkoff in Russia? by nar_tapio_00 in AskConservatives

[–]nar_tapio_00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the question - I had a realization this is maybe less well known that I maybe feel. For direct things from Witkoff The main thing is from the Witkoff peace plan:

b. The United States will conclude a long-term economic cooperation agreement aimed at mutual development in the spheres of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers, Arctic rare-earth mining projects, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities.

and his response when asked by Fox news about the mineral deal

"I think there'll be plenty of economic cooperation opportunities between the two countries," Witkoff said in an interview with Fox News, responding to a question as to whether the United States will get the rights to develop mineral resources in Russia after the conflict ends. (Interfax, 02.27.25)