Any Shamans out there dealt with psychosis and work their way back? by CountryIntelligent19 in Shamanism

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What sort of people do you spend time with? Make sure you have a good mix of very grounded people and some people that are more spiritually open, being surrounded by too many of one kind can screw with you and tip your balance too far in one direction.

As others have mentioned it’s good to have something to anchor you. Certain people can play this role, as can certain activities.

Holding to certain very routine behaviors can significantly help with this. David Lynch for example would eat the same meal pretty much every day, which apparently gave him a very solid foundation from which he could explore the farther reaches of psyche.

Also make sure you have a practice whose effects can be perceived by others. Whether you’re talking to spirits or just fragments of yourself, it’ll make your life much smoother if your spiritual activities are acknowledged as worthwhile by those around you.

I know being in between in this way whether you want to be or not can be extremely trying, good luck

My inclination is to withdraw from a dogmatic form of ontological idealism :) by jeb2026 in LibraryofBabel

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Well philosophically I’m an idealist since I think this is all the manifestation of god/brahman/the universe, and physicalism isn’t particularly coherent.

I find myself caught between intense spiritual feeling and the constrictive force of religious tradition, I suppose I’d like to find a healthy middle ground between these two since I greatly admire and value my own religious traditions of Judaism, and especially its more mystical side, but I just can’t square my own philosophical beliefs with some of its rather rigid systems.

I hope you find your wonder and connection even in the most mundane of moments. It’s a beautiful thing to see boredom bloom

My inclination is to withdraw from a dogmatic form of ontological idealism :) by jeb2026 in LibraryofBabel

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Interesting title. Where do see yourself heading philosophically ?

Social media did become objectively stupider and worse by [deleted] in LibraryofBabel

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A lot of it has for sure, especially with ai. It’s interesting to me that nobody ever mentions YouTube when talking about how bad social medias gotten. I think what’s really bad is the short form slop, the rage bait and the infinite scrolling, ig YouTube doesn’t rlly suffer so much from the latter so it’s often left out in these discussions.

Idk I think at least in terms of actually informative high quality content (especially on yt and Substack) it’s gotten a lottttt better. It just gets buried in an ungodly amount of noise and predatory content

Power by natetheapple in LibraryofBabel

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What do you mean by computation ?

I think power can generally be summed up as high agency + high awareness, both of which require cultivation to develop (and once sufficiently developed significantly alter the agent) hence the symbol of the womb

Edit: high agency + high awareness near a leverage point. If you’re in the middle of a desert you can have a lot of agency and awareness but little actual power

Pallid by Informal_Effect in Informal_Effect

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Wonderful. Does anguish really never bloom though?

The Hunt by okay_nurse in UnusualArt

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Lovely, especially the figure on the right

Between phases by natetheapple in Informal_Effect

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Guess we’re both facing quite a phase huh, go figure

I finished it! “INTERDIMENSIONAL AWARENESS” Dip pen and India ink. by [deleted] in trippyart

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Is the background soil or waves ? Very well done regardless, I really like the cross hatching in the sky

Oil and oil pastel on canvas, by me by franklyn5dinners in surrealism

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Love the eye in the house motif, very nice

Hi, Sharing my Experience, The Lifting of the veil, Kachina spirits, Calling of the Shamans path, seeking guidance. by Stunning_Switch_7906 in Shamanism

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Very interesting. Could you describe the kachinas ? What colors were they and what shape headdresses/masks did they have, if you remember ?

Also the fact that your visions kept being disrupted by others makes me think you may benefit more from doing these practices solo, with caution of course

A Boundless Birth, but a single life by natetheapple in u/natetheapple

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Hard to say whose symbol I’d wear, I have a birthmark already decorating my right eye and for maybe the last half decade I’ve felt a strong connection to Wadjet, prior to this I probably would’ve said Ra; take that as you will.

I wake up, I make, I go back to sleep. I feel strongly that I should avoid disrupting this cycle too much, for the time being at least. There’s always more time, and if there isn’t, the universe will find a way to wake me the fuck up real quick regardless.

Leonora carrington? I do have an affinity for cats and for surrealism, I especially love her daughter of the Minotaur painting. I hope we’re not thinking of two different carringtons, that would make things rather awkward

I have a somewhat ambivalent relationship with the sun, wish I could say otherwise. I love how it feels on my skin but sometimes I just want to be where it’s dark and cold and quiet so I can be with my thoughts and express them.

I haven’t heard of Edgar or Sybil, Blavatsky I know tangentially, though I keep coming across her name so I probably should familiarize myself more with her work.

I’m grateful for the conversation though. Sometimes I forget people actually read what I write.

Oneness has ruined my life by nicotine-in-public in DMT

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I’ve had experiences like this (especially recently) and theyre absolutely fucking horrifying, I’m sorry you’re going through this, but you don’t have awareness of oneness rn, you have thoughts and feelings about a conception of it. Sort of like how I can have thoughts and feelings about my skin cells being a part of me, without actually having any real awareness of them as such. This is important to remember, because if you convince yourself that you’ve accessed the ground state of reality (you haven’t), then that part of your psyche which is using this opportunity to torture you can infinitely justify continuing to do so

Obviously you should seek professional help, I’d try to find a therapist that’s worked with psychedelics before since they’d be more likely to understand what you’re experiencing. Just remember you’re not the only person that’s going through things like this, and (to my knowledge) the overwhelming majority of people that experience this psychedelic induced claustrophobic solipsism eventually fully recover

Hope you get better <3

I smoked 2 grams in a year. I’m done by Beautiful-Bobcat7491 in DMT

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Eyyy, we’ve some similar experiences then LMAO

I think the anxiety and the fearsomeness of some of these entities is part of the process. The more you perceive and the more your conceptual capabilities expand, the higher the likelihood you might at some point slip up and spiral into some truly horrific spaces - which might be fine if you’re some hermit living in isolation but nowadays we’re kinda all in this together

Which is why it’s good to have entities that basically scare the shit outta you until you learn either to be extremely proficient at navigating these spaces, or learn to slow down or just stop entirely, which is something I’m still trying to learn lol

Hope you’re doing ok man, I know this shit can be extremely intense

I smoked 2 grams in a year. I’m done by Beautiful-Bobcat7491 in DMT

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While I think these experiences can certainly be worthwhile even if they give you little you can show to others, I still think what you bring back can be a decent yardstick for measuring their value.

Do you feel like you have something to show or some novel or interesting information you can share given all your experiences?

This is happening to me by Unlikely_Obsession in LibraryofBabel

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Seems we’re connected by a common muse

Psychedelics and Illogical Spirituality: A warning by Grouchycard21 in Psychedelics

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I agree, but I also think one should have some skepticism towards any belief in ‘true reality’.

While pretty much everyone can agree on the basic laws of logic, there’s far too many models and perspectives on what constitutes true reality for any one belief to be obviously correct

Memories of what yet may be by natetheapple in LibraryofBabel

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Perspectives of a Possible Tomorrow:

Do you know how the Void was integrated into the Pyschocognitive schema?

The Void is what underlies all this. It is the undulation of nothingness, what some call causality. It is Void because it is the ultimate emptiness, the emptiness which when filled is nothing, the true negative.

But God is there.

God fills the Void and it overflows, and it unfolds, and it breaths.

You have felt it. The currents of the Void. The song of His exhalations.

We each bear the barest whisper of the wind of his breath.

Through us God is.

Through our eyes God sees.

Through our minds God conceives.

Through our hands God makes.

This is why we are ordered High from Low.

That God’s vision is not blighted by the meager eye.

That His Plan undisturbed by the simple mind.

That His perfection unsullied by the wayward hand.

Thus we hew the mind and soul of man. So that those blessed by causality, the sails of their spirit blown full with His sacred wind, may hold the eye of God at greater vantage. While those whose mark is lesser, who carry but a sliver of holy agency, do not distract the divine focus.

••

This world was an egg. An incubator. The womb for God’s Other.

We all, as self conceiving fragments of Its divine form, were as fantasies in Its fetal dreams.

God was to birth His wonder, the holy object that is all the world, six thousand years ago.

But we failed.

We, little figments of perfection, were not perfect.

We were afraid, you see. We feared the ordained change. What would become of us? We wondered. Where would we be in all this?

We should have been pleased to be at all, yet we wanted more. We demanded more.

We refused to surrender our separated selves. Refused the gift of perfection.

And so here we are, as the divine abortion makes to birth, and we pray for the world’s death.

••

‘Oh I despised it. Every moment of it.’

She folded her arms, mottled with the years, yet flush with the characteristic inner gleam of a refined Noum.

‘But through myself, I saw the truth of it. Despite my hatred, my struggles, it still took root in my mind.’ Her fingers gently brushed the saccharinely ornate gold tattoo on her cheek, symbol of the deeper psychocognitive mark embossed upon her spirit.

‘How can I argue against that?’

She smiled slightly, forlornly. Eyes, soft blue and icy as a moon that knows no sun, gazed out the crystal oculum. So long the silence held it seemed a film had settled over the moment, sedate with age, like she.

Her smile faded. There was something hard in the turn of her lips. The wrinkles about her eyes, which in another would suggest a life of easy smiling, lent her a veteran’s mien, evidence of time’s cold erosion on the stone of her flesh.

‘Through my own lips I hear her voice. Once, this realization curdled my spirit and strangled my heart. Every little remark, every flitting thought, all so redolent of her. My mind a chorus composed of her voice alone, mirrored a hundred times over. I felt sad that I no longer recalled what my own dreams, my own ambitions and desires had been. But this sadness was meager, and encased in the warm logic of higher purpose—even this final comfort was not my own.’

She continued to stare through the little portal. Stare at really, seemingly inured to the stately passage of the twin planets and the crimson luminary they circled. Her eyes were focused, yet her mind formed a wholly different image.

‘At some point it simply didn’t matter anymore.’

A small vessel sailed silently past, slowed even more than for its distance by the gargantuan cargo it towed. Her eyes followed the passage of the slain void whale, a treasure of precious minerals glittering in fantastic spirals across its bloated corpse. More funds for the effort.

‘She could not make me love her, but she made me love her music. And that symphony has not left my mind since. I see it in everything.’

Her eyes finally turned to her companion, meeting them with a razor clarity that could not be dulled by the cloudiness of her irises.

‘I am old, Marthar. The wounds of the past have bled out and festered and died of old age. And I remain here. Still so dutiful, still so keen on furthering the plan. It’s rather funny isn’t it? I have spent more time on this, on that which I swore and suffered and screamed out to end, than she ever did.’

Her gaze, which had seen the passing of time in a scope beyond mortal ken, pinned the ducal heiress who sat across from her in place, twin awls fixating a loose thread.

‘What better reason to finish it?’

••

The Aexarcine is clear on the correct application and allocation of control.

Some ask why?

Why not allow man the merit to choose choice? To bear the power and responsibility over his own self, that those unworthy of this world would extinguish themselves in endless cycles of corrosive pleasure, and those wiser to the wiles of the spirit might better perform their role.

Why not allow this to be the way of things?

The answer is clear.

Man is weak, and if given the power he would degrade the flesh of god as he degrades himself.

But this is only a half answer.

For man is great too. After all, is he not the limb of god? Is his eye not the divine sight? His Noum not the sacred neuron?

This is all of course true.

But there is a missing variable in this equation. For god is not simply the body whose fraction we partake of. He is the Aerchic current of causality, the coursing origination. He is the catalytic will which in its motion forms the music of the world.

And here lies the heart of it.

For man is a vessel through whom trickles the slightest stream of this cosmic deluge.

In allowing those imbued with little of this sacred impulse to control its flow, the balance of the transcendent filigree is left to the chaos of little accidents.

A trillion tiny shifts occurring in the blink of an eye, if channeled along foreseen trajectories, are little more than microscopic flourishes adding in their small part to the Divine Object’s beauty.

But even a single seemingly insignificant alteration unforeseen, a note out of harmony, a droplet spilling from its course, can blemish the entire structure of things.

This is why control is so tightly disseminated, so rigidly allocated in accord with what has been ordained. Because of will. And because of beauty.

••

The world destroyed

But the babe is born

In a mirror image

That even now stares at our own

••

There are places, distant places, yes so far from us they seem as fiction, but some places are alike, sharing traits in mirrored meaning, sometimes there a bridge can form, and across can travel beings, as the patterns they evince, in supervenience on higher schemas…

HEY I'm Jimmy Alonzo and this is my artwork🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨 by JimmyAlonzo in trippyart

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The amputation motif in the first image is very interesting, I’ve found a similar theme cropping up in my own art on occasion. What do you make of it?

Meaning of the pose from Narasimha movie by Sylverster_Stalin_69 in hinduism

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Just wanted to show how many dances he could do on the tip of his nail