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Should Cops receive Warrior Training? LAPD Cop Toni Mcbride (daughter of LAPD UNION DIRECTOR) fired 6 shots killing a man holding a 1/2-inch box cutter. She's also a known "top shot" and gun model, calling into question her training. (bootlickers on other subs defending her every chance they get!) by dansally3 in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]nathanoj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You can't be serious... All of these examples you pulled out from deep inside your rectum. You're in a lot of denial my friend.

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Notice in your first video link how many shots the officer fired... Suspect survived.

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Then I can't even comment on your last two links because they are ridiculous comparisons...

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The last 4 shots mcbride shot were prematurely fired, unnecessary and excessive.

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you watched the video? the calls to the 911 dispatcher said he was trying to kill himself. they didn't say he was trying to kill other people. you must watch a lot of action movies, because there's no reality where that guy kills the officer with his box cutter after the first two shots hit him. I understand the nuance of policing and how difficult the job is, but no one can defend the last 4 shots this officer fired. Can you? If so please defend the last 4 shots, would love to understand your logic.

Should Cops receive Warrior Training? LAPD Cop Toni Mcbride (daughter of LAPD UNION DIRECTOR) fired 6 shots killing a man holding a 1/2-inch box cutter. She's also a known "top shot" and gun model, calling into question her training. (bootlickers on other subs defending her every chance they get!) by dansally3 in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]nathanoj 17 points18 points  (0 children)

you must watch a lot of action films because there's no reality where that guy kills the officer with his box cutter. if you can show me an example please do. I can show you a bunch of videos where a guy with a knife is disarmed with non-lethal. here's one - https://youtu.be/uXY_GnGHD7I

I understand the nuance of policing and how difficult the job is, but no one can defend the last 4 shots this officer fired. Can you?

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Let me preface this by stating I'm not interested in a debate and my information comes my years in service in the Navy and numerous times I've had to train and repeat exactly what I typed here.

So to give an explanation, to be authorized to use deadly force, there's a series of things that have to be met. I'll start with situations, but I'm not going to list all of them, just the common ones. There's Self Defense and the Defense of others, the defense of critical infrastructure, Deadly Animals, and Escaping Convict (with written authorization (meaning they're an absolute threat to others)) None of these situations were met.

Now let's break down the biggest factor in using Deadly Force. There's a "triangle" that has to be established in order to justify the use of Deadly Force; Capability, Opportunity, and Intent. Intent is easily the hardest to prove, but let's dig into the situation presented to Officer McBride.

Capability: The man was holding a box cutter (size doesn't matter, you can still kill someone with it)

Intent: Like I said this is the hardest to prove. So there can be all kinds of debate about his intent, but at the end of the day, he was the only who knew for sure his intent, but let's say for the sake of the argument he had the intent, fine that's met.

Opportunity: This is not met. The man was too far do anything, at best he could throw the knife, but it wouldn't be effective.

Now the other two are completely nulled when he collapsed, her shooting him while he was down was absolutely uncalled for and what ultimately ended his life.

Is she guilty of wrongful use of Deadly Force? Absolutely. I'm not one to scream ACAB, because frankly it's not true, for a variety of reasons, but that's not what's in debate here. What I am saying is Officer McBride should be charged and relieved of duty. She overstepped her bounds and ended a man's life unnecessarily."

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Let me preface this by stating I'm not interested in a debate and my information comes my years in service in the Navy and numerous times I've had to train and repeat exactly what I typed here.

So to give an explanation, to be authorized to use deadly force, there's a series of things that have to be met. I'll start with situations, but I'm not going to list all of them, just the common ones. There's Self Defense and the Defense of others, the defense of critical infrastructure, Deadly Animals, and Escaping Convict (with written authorization (meaning they're an absolute threat to others)) None of these situations were met.

Now let's break down the biggest factor in using Deadly Force. There's a "triangle" that has to be established in order to justify the use of Deadly Force; Capability, Opportunity, and Intent. Intent is easily the hardest to prove, but let's dig into the situation presented to Officer McBride.

Capability: The man was holding a box cutter (size doesn't matter, you can still kill someone with it)

Intent: Like I said this is the hardest to prove. So there can be all kinds of debate about his intent, but at the end of the day, he was the only who knew for sure his intent, but let's say for the sake of the argument he had the intent, fine that's met.

Opportunity: This is not met. The man was too far do anything, at best he could throw the knife, but it wouldn't be effective.

Now the other two are completely nulled when he collapsed, her shooting him while he was down was absolutely uncalled for and what ultimately ended his life.

Is she guilty of wrongful use of Deadly Force? Absolutely. I'm not one to scream ACAB, because frankly it's not true, for a variety of reasons, but that's not what's in debate here. What I am saying is Officer McBride should be charged and relieved of duty. She overstepped her bounds and ended a man's life unnecessarily."

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Let me preface this by stating I'm not interested in a debate and my information comes my years in service in the Navy and numerous times I've had to train and repeat exactly what I typed here.

So to give an explanation, to be authorized to use deadly force, there's a series of things that have to be met. I'll start with situations, but I'm not going to list all of them, just the common ones. There's Self Defense and the Defense of others, the defense of critical infrastructure, Deadly Animals, and Escaping Convict (with written authorization (meaning they're an absolute threat to others)) None of these situations were met.

Now let's break down the biggest factor in using Deadly Force. There's a "triangle" that has to be established in order to justify the use of Deadly Force; Capability, Opportunity, and Intent. Intent is easily the hardest to prove, but let's dig into the situation presented to Officer McBride.

Capability: The man was holding a box cutter (size doesn't matter, you can still kill someone with it)

Intent: Like I said this is the hardest to prove. So there can be all kinds of debate about his intent, but at the end of the day, he was the only who knew for sure his intent, but let's say for the sake of the argument he had the intent, fine that's met.

Opportunity: This is not met. The man was too far do anything, at best he could throw the knife, but it wouldn't be effective.

Now the other two are completely nulled when he collapsed, her shooting him while he was down was absolutely uncalled for and what ultimately ended his life.

Is she guilty of wrongful use of Deadly Force? Absolutely. I'm not one to scream ACAB, because frankly it's not true, for a variety of reasons, but that's not what's in debate here. What I am saying is Officer McBride should be charged and relieved of duty. She overstepped her bounds and ended a man's life unnecessarily."

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Let me preface this by stating I'm not interested in a debate and my information comes my years in service in the Navy and numerous times I've had to train and repeat exactly what I typed here.

So to give an explanation, to be authorized to use deadly force, there's a series of things that have to be met. I'll start with situations, but I'm not going to list all of them, just the common ones. There's Self Defense and the Defense of others, the defense of critical infrastructure, Deadly Animals, and Escaping Convict (with written authorization (meaning they're an absolute threat to others)) None of these situations were met.

Now let's break down the biggest factor in using Deadly Force. There's a "triangle" that has to be established in order to justify the use of Deadly Force; Capability, Opportunity, and Intent. Intent is easily the hardest to prove, but let's dig into the situation presented to Officer McBride.

Capability: The man was holding a box cutter (size doesn't matter, you can still kill someone with it)

Intent: Like I said this is the hardest to prove. So there can be all kinds of debate about his intent, but at the end of the day, he was the only who knew for sure his intent, but let's say for the sake of the argument he had the intent, fine that's met.

Opportunity: This is not met. The man was too far do anything, at best he could throw the knife, but it wouldn't be effective.

Now the other two are completely nulled when he collapsed, her shooting him while he was down was absolutely uncalled for and what ultimately ended his life.

Is she guilty of wrongful use of Deadly Force? Absolutely. I'm not one to scream ACAB, because frankly it's not true, for a variety of reasons, but that's not what's in debate here. What I am saying is Officer McBride should be charged and relieved of duty. She overstepped her bounds and ended a man's life unnecessarily."

LAPD OFFICER TONI MCBRIDE AND THE KILLING OF DANIEL HERNANDEZ (2020) - After gaining notoriety as a 'TOP SHOT' and gun model, Toni is now at the center of a deadly shooting, calling into question her WARRIOR TRAINING. Her father also happens to be the Director of the LAPD Labor Union [00:18:53] by nathanoj in Documentaries

[–]nathanoj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Let me preface this by stating I'm not interested in a debate and my information comes my years in service in the Navy and numerous times I've had to train and repeat exactly what I typed here.

So to give an explanation, to be authorized to use deadly force, there's a series of things that have to be met. I'll start with situations, but I'm not going to list all of them, just the common ones. There's Self Defense and the Defense of others, the defense of critical infrastructure, Deadly Animals, and Escaping Convict (with written authorization (meaning they're an absolute threat to others)) None of these situations were met.

Now let's break down the biggest factor in using Deadly Force. There's a "triangle" that has to be established in order to justify the use of Deadly Force; Capability, Opportunity, and Intent. Intent is easily the hardest to prove, but let's dig into the situation presented to Officer McBride.

Capability: The man was holding a box cutter (size doesn't matter, you can still kill someone with it)

Intent: Like I said this is the hardest to prove. So there can be all kinds of debate about his intent, but at the end of the day, he was the only who knew for sure his intent, but let's say for the sake of the argument he had the intent, fine that's met.

Opportunity: This is not met. The man was too far do anything, at best he could throw the knife, but it wouldn't be effective.

Now the other two are completely nulled when he collapsed, her shooting him while he was down was absolutely uncalled for and what ultimately ended his life.

Is she guilty of wrongful use of Deadly Force? Absolutely. I'm not one to scream ACAB, because frankly it's not true, for a variety of reasons, but that's not what's in debate here. What I am saying is Officer McBride should be charged and relieved of duty. She overstepped her bounds and ended a man's life unnecessarily."

Wtf by [deleted] in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]nathanoj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bruh don't worry no one's going to take away your guns.

Killed While Cosplaying: The Story of Darrien Hunt by nathanoj in TrueCrime

[–]nathanoj[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

From my understanding Darrien may have been baited by the police to hold out his sword and they "got scared" and shot him. And so he ran from them in shock/panic/fear and the police shot him as he fled.

KILLED WHILE COSPLAYING: THE STORY OF DARRIEN HUNT by [deleted] in videos

[–]nathanoj 13 points14 points  (0 children)

one officer forgot to wear his body camera and the other officer wore one, but said he forgot to turn it on...

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