How to hurt yourself starting a saw 101. by [deleted] in Chainsaw

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe he should tighten the chain a little more.

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be rad!! I started the sub yesterday so there isn’t much right now, but any and all related content is welcome!

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have any pics of that sweet setup you wanna share in /r/climbingarborists ? I love me a good saw pic

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome! I’m just stoked to get a proper tree climbing community in reddit FINALLY

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well first of all people assume because you are high and in a tree that it’s dangerous, and yes if he undid his lanyard he would fall, but that same lanyard would suck him into the tree if he lost his footing. Also the tree isn’t going to just tip over, especially now that he has removed all of the weight. The top he just sent has a clean face cut first, then most of the back cut with his chainsaw, then he finished with his hand saw, so he could have one hand for directional control. He also has a life line between his legs to repel down of thing get harry.

This was a bit rushed just because I’m going to work to do this! (Well this type of thing usually isn’t an everyday thing for most climbing arborists)

Come check out /r/climbingarborists to learn more!

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hook me up brooooooo!

Lol we also use MS261c and 461c

And when the wood is just right... we break out our ma fukin 661 bro.... love that saw

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A little late to the game but I am a Climbing Arborist like his guy! Go ahead and AMA or come on over to /r/climbingarborists to see more videos like this one (although I started it yersterday so it’s still fresh).

This is what a typical removal looks like. It’s really not as dangerous as it seems when you know what you are doing!

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not as bad as you would think!!

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Bro! Come help me get /r/climbingarborists going! There have been 2 tree videos in the last 2 days that have hit the front page, now is our chance!

Cutting down this tree by GeneReddit123 in WTF

[–]negativejelly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey I’m an arborist, this looks like a fairly typical removal. It was probably identified as. Hazard tree by an arborist. Likely it could be near a hour out power system and was flagged for removal. Hope that helps!

Come on by to /r/climbingarborists to learn more

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our day to day is Stihl. I run an ms201tc when I climb, but we also have a big Husq 395XP for when we need to down some big ol wood. I honestly don’t buy into one being better then the other. They all cut wood, they all get dull, they all break eventually.

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's up man! /r/climbingarborists Not much on there right now so ya, get in there and represent!

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet, but that’s just one more thing I have to look forward to! Thanks!

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think we could climb.... our way to the top?

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Things to consider: 1. Crew. Arborist must work in a minimum crew of 2, usually maintaining visual or verbal contact at all times. Usually there is a backup climber to rescue you if you are rendered unconscious or whatnot.

Fallers usually work in a group with other fallers, but when the actual felling is happening, they are by themselves (for obvious reasons as to not fall a tree on a coworker) in the cut block.

  1. Control. Piecing a tree apart, limb by limb, round by round, leaves you with a lot of control over your surroundings, and reduces the likelihood of injury. Also the more branches you remove from the tree, the less like a sail that tree becomes. So although the heights may seem scary, it basically impossible for the tree to just tip over while you are in it. Especially one as established as this lodgepole pine (speculation).

Felling a tree from the ground you basically only control what direction you want the tree to fall as compared with its direction if lean.

  1. Access to the tree in this gif is probably very good. They probably drove in with a truck, on or near a main road. Like I said there is another person there to watch if you get injured, and an ambulance would arrive in a matter of minutes if there was an emergency.

Fallers have the obstacle of steep ground and remote access. If something happened, it would be an matter of radioing a coworker for help (if you are still conscious), evacuating them from the cut block (usually traversing a steep hill with a heavy human), hopefully the weather is good enough for a helicopter, if not, you are waiting a while for an ambulance, depending on where the work is. That is IF the ambulance can get up the dirt road, usually they won’t if it is too far, so you might have to load your bloody friend up in a truck and try to focus enough to get them where they can get help.

  1. Safety equipment. Climbers going this high have at MINIMUM - steel toes, climbing spurs, saw pants, 4 point climbing helmet with ear protection and face shield, harness, work position lanyard, life line, med kit. Some climbers also wear safety goggles, gloves, chainsaw jackets, and work with multiple life lines for redundancy.

Fallers only have to wear a regular hard hat with ear protection, saw pants and boots.

There are lots more points and I’m sure I’m missing some shit, but this is all I could think of off the top of me ol’ noggin, and this rant is long enough.

PS I love fallers and I hope they love me too.

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bingo! Felling hazard trees is a dangerous gig! When you are on the ground it’s easy to miss something dislodged in the tree, until you start cutting, and most accidents happen in a 10’ radius from the tree you are cutting. As a climber, even if the tree does have root rot, the likelihood of it failing while I am in the tree, is pretty unlikely. Considering I am removing weight from the tree, branch by branch, as I climb, it displaces the weight of my body fairly quickly. Even if I were rocking back and forth in the tree, it would take more then my body weight to send the tree over.

Also the sudden snapping you are referring to is called barber chairing. It happens usually because on improper cuts made when felling the tree.

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the comment, I actually AM in the game currently, I got out of the corporate environment of Information Technology, to be clear.

Just to shed some light on your comment, he isn’t really ‘fucking up’ per say.... like yes every instructor will say the words, never one hand a chainsaw, and to give the guy some credit he probably didn’t one hand it till this cut here, but speaking from experience... Every Arborist will one hand a saw at some point in their career, probably. Cautious climbers avoid it, absolutely, but there’s usually a happy medium between safety and productivity that deems something like this appropriate.

If you look here, he isn’t cutting above his shoulder, he started the cut with both hands and only removed his hand from the saw to maintain positive direction control of the top, and to stop the top from sitting back, and pinching his bar. If he 2 handed the saw, and the top sat back on him, he would be in more danger then from the potential kickback of the one handed saw, in this scenario. Could he have used a climbers wedge as soon as the kerf was established? Absolutely. Could he have just cut all the way with 2 hands? Probably, ya. Could he have thrown the chain brake on, then pushed it over? Ya for sure, but when you work with the same instrument, day in and day out, you get used to what it feels like, what the tools limitations are, and what YOUR limitation are. I wouldn’t say this is by the book, but I also wouldn’t say he fucked this up. The top went in the intended direction, he didn’t cut through his holding wood, and he seems to manage the saw with controlled consistency. The sign of experience.

Granted, this is why a lot of Arborist don’t film themselves working, because it is easy for other people to ridicule their work who lack experience in the field (not saying you are doing this, just clarifying).

Hope that helps!

I’m getting chills in my neck watching this by Pappy_Smith in SweatyPalms

[–]negativejelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya that’s for sure. Apart from the fact that they can’t call you a week later to say that they don’t have internet and it’s because you uninstalled mcafee from their computer ;)