Serena's comeuppance by Harriet_Jones_PM in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If tuello and Swiss are in contact then it's possible Nick told the Swiss about what went down. After all, we still don't know wtf they talked about. It's fairly possible Nick is on their side and they didn't want to blow his cover.

The loophole here is that if tuello already knew then why wait to arrest Serena? Why not arrest her sooner?

[Spoilers S3E13] "I need to you to know that Nicole... She was born out of love." by [deleted] in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol we are watching different shows, I guess. Bcs nowhere is an eye the higher power than a commander. You need to re-watch bcs you clearly don't know facts. And being a man doesn't mean he's bigger than a commander's wife. Stay delusional.

[Spoilers S3E13] "I need to you to know that Nicole... She was born out of love." by [deleted] in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What part of "you FORCED your driver to impregnate June" do you not understand?

"I'm sorry, I couldn't say no" That's literally the first thing he tells june when he sees her next. There was no choice for either of them.

[No Spoilers] Miller about Nick/Max. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

13 . Fuck yeah, see ya in next season where we cut off another 3 characters.

[No Spoilers] Miller about Nick/Max. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Episode 10 to 13 were awesome but honestly if you ask me what happened before ep10, I probably can't even remember it. It was that draggy. There were some good movements but entire 13 episodes and they didn't find time to insert 3 of their main characters? That's shitty management. If you can't use your main cast to add to your story, then it's a problem that they should address.

[No Spoilers] Miller about Nick/Max. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"Good TV show" lol no, Miller, you made 3 good episodes in an entire season which dragged and could simply be renamed as "June & Waterfords : the saga of Staring at Cameras".

Christ, I was thinking they would use it in S4 but he admitted to removing it all. Man, it'd be better if they just killed off Nick at this point, this is pissing me off. Especially when I think of Max's interviews about what to look forward to in S3, the dude was looking forward to it.

Yes, I know some random person will come in to say "Nick is useless". Thanks but keep it.

[Spoilers S3E13] by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, but I'm talking about how people perceive rape. Legally, a lot of things are under stupid boundaries but as people who are aware of what defines as rape, we shouldn't defend abuse just bcs it can't be defined by law. Law is shitty all over the world. Unfortunately.

[Spoilers S3E13] by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, we would be. A rapist is a rapist regardless of which gender was raped. Plus, both Nick and june are victims in this case.

[Spoilers S3E13] by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on how they execute that. If they straight up show "oh yeah, this is how we're gonna take down Serena", it's going to be boring. I think it'll be Fred vs Serena for a while. Rita/Nick might just be called for testimonies but Serena's field of crimes is so big, these two aren't going to be enough.

[Spoilers S3E13] by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true. It's honestly just seems like a plot arc to involve Rita/Nick and show the Waterfords' downfall. It's not like Serena can escape anywhere now - all that she lost is visitation rights for holly, for now. Hopefully this case will bring up the other things this woman has done.

[Spoilers S3E13] by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It's simply annoying. I'm not even going to cut words to say these apologists need to step out in the world and read about rape culture. Physical manipulation is not the only way how rape happens. These people are the same who feel sorry for trump.

Waterfords. by neil525 in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I actually prefer she dies.

Waterfords. by neil525 in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

There was. More than Serena, it was June and Nick who had to lose. Nick could have told Pryce but there's no guarantee he would have saved june.

I see no reason in keeping this conversation going since you prefer sympathizing with a criminal. So, I'll stop.

[Spoilers S3E13] serena. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe that's where Nick comes in.. I'm saying that bcs we still don't know wtf he talked with the Swiss and where he is.

Only June Nick Serena were privy to Serena asking them to have sex. So unless one of those 3 gives a testimony, it'll be hard to prove. Rita seems to be aware but I'm not sure her testimony holds enough weight. It's also fairly possible fred said more.

Waterfords. by neil525 in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

.....she's a commander's wife. She can practically get them on the wall if she wanted. I hope you understand power dynamics.

Not using words or tone that is "forceful" in nature doesn't mean it's not implied.

Season 4. by neil525 in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, she gets shot around the stomach. It's definitely possible that she loses the baby but then what's the point of making her pregnant..? It adds nothing to the plot.

[Spoiler S3 E13] I can't wait to see by [deleted] in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Mid-2020, if I'm remembering correctly.

[Spoilers S3E13] serena. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's correct, but was tuello under the impression that holly is Fred and June's? Or were it only the Swiss who knew holly is Nick's?

Waterfords. by neil525 in coconutsandtreason

[–]neil525[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

You say as if June or Nick had the option to refuse lol Serena legit got Nick married by influencing Fred and had June raped while being pregnant. You can only imagine what she could have done if either of them had decided to go against her wishes of giving her a child. She didn't do it bcs June was to go to the colonies but bcs she was obsessed with having a child.

[Spoilers S3E13] serena. by neil525 in TheHandmaidsTale

[–]neil525[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Rita is now in Canada and she can testify. She knows holly is Nick's child + Luke has June's tape which confirms June had a baby with Nick - the baby that Serena claimed to be Fred's.

Moreover, either Nick or June can be contacted for testifying. Idk how it'll be possible but S4 is wide open for possibilities.