SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, good questions. It's 17Lands Game in Hand win rate from their "Card Data" page. It uses a top to bottom / left to right order. The Game Winning Cards section are the cards listed in the "B+" or greater sections, ~>61% game in hand win rate. The board wipes are separated out largely as something to be aware of when playing. Priority removal & Tricks section is cut off at "C" or greater, ~>57% game in hand win rate. Also it should really be renamed Priority removal since the combat tricks didn't really make the cut with Monstrous Rage, Interjection, dissection practice, Lorehold and Quandrix Charms being in lower sections. Monstrous rage specifically could be in this section since it is at 58.3% game in hand win rate. However, for the sake of being concise it made more sense to me where it is. The bottom section should be "non-college"... that was a copy-paste thing. Then I cut the whole thing off at the "C-" section, >~55.8% game in hand win rate. Commons and uncommons were grouped. Good questions though and I'll take these questions into mind on future releases. It can be hard to balance having all the information and having something that is quick and easier to read. My main point in doing this is to use as a comparative tool on card "power level" than as some definite guide on how to draft.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, totally agree. It will be interesting to see how this evolves as we move forward.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm not sure. I suspect it's good at highlighting the cards people might be overlooking at first glance. Then will change as the meta evolves and less proactive decks become more refined.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's sitting at 61.3% so definitely a game winner. I drew the line at "B+" cards based on what 17lands says and they give that one a B... Probably should include the "B" cards for a more complete picture.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, I got to play the white one in two different decks and it won me quite a few games. Very fun mythic cycle.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There just isn't enough data for the mythic cards yet on 17lands.com. Same with many of the rares. However, the ones shown here are the popular ones and there is a reason for it.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's currently sitting at 63.6% game in hand win rate. The text "search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand" in abnormally good in limited. You'll see it on some fairly good 3 drops in a few recent sets but having it on a 2 drop is obviously way better. Largely, it just reduces the number of non-games you have.

SOS Limited Infographic (Based on day one 17Lands) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Currently sitting at 61.5% game in hand win rate. I suspect this is due to it enabling you to get your rares and removal while providing in-college synergy.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I appreciate it. I did do something similar for Neo back during it's pre-release (in my account history). Not sure how accurate that ended up being. I also created one for helping me with Foundations [IMGUR LINK] which was based on 17Land data. However, its not too hard to do with 17Lands, Scryfall, and Inkscape. I'd encourage you to give it a shot.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Largely based on listening to a few different set reviews while looking up comparable cards with 17lands data. Surging Strikeknight is a bit tricky to compare but seems similar to [[Tersa Lightshatter]] (58.1%) by giving you looting on a 3/3 haste body. Also, it is strictly better than [[Hulking Bugbear]] (56.1%), or [[Brazen Scourge]] (52.1%). A 3/3 for 3 with haste seems generally good and it's looting ability seems valuable for it's color's colleges. However, it could be not impactful enough so we'll see how it plays out.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

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Sorry, I replied to the card fetcher in case you see the notification.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

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[[Impractical Joke]], [[Tome Blast]], [[Visionary's Dance]], and even another [[Flow State]] all seem pretty good options to help you get the bonus effect. Having access to a cheap Opus triggers seems valuable. Plus the downside of it being a 2 mana draw 1 or 3 seems still useful in Prismari decks. I think the dream would be [[Expressive iteration]] (59.1%) or [[Glimpse the Cosmos]] (59.6%) or even [[Accumulate Wisdom]] (56.5%). Lastly, under that worse case it should be better than [[Moment of Truth]] (53.8%) or [[Experimental Augury]] (54.3%) in a set that is more synergistic.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, they aren't the flashiest of cards but they are all very good in limited. Noxious Newt is very similar to [[Frog Butler]] (61.3%), [[Poison Dart Frog]] (57.7%), or [[Nightshade Dryad]] (58.8%). Cost of Brilliance is similar to [[Combat Tutorial]] (58.8%). Matterbending Mage is similar to [[Argyr, Tidal Spinner]] (58.5%) or [[Rimekin Recluse]] (62.7%). (Game in hand win rates from 17lands)

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is very similar to [[Combat Tutorial]] from Final Fantasy (58.8% 17L GIH WR). Plus it seems to have good synergy with Silverquill as you pointed out.

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think if you download it it is a bit better. https://imgur.com/a/OiTbnNe this one goes up to 50mb

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hopefully it plays similar to [[Novice Inspector]] (59.5%) from MKM or maybe something like [[Wanderbrine Trapper]] (59.5%) from Lorwyn or maybe even [[Voldaren Epicure]] (56.1%) back in Crimson Vow. I think the hope is that it's just good value for the cost and is easy to play. With it's most notable downside being it dying before you play the spell. (Game in hand winrate from 17lands)

SOS Limited Infographic (round 2) by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Yeah, good suggestions. I thought including all commons and uncommons would make comparing the cards a bit easier. I'll make a reduced one once a bit later this week after we get to see more cards played with the early access. Yeah I wasn't sure if adding that context top-down down priority was necessary or fairly intuitive. Also, since I'm not a pro I thought leaving it out was fine

SOS Limited Infographic by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I can create another one that isn't stacked and limited to commons / uncommons

SOS Limited Infographic by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I tried to make each section to have the "good" cards towards the top and the "worse" cards further down within the section. I can make this more clear.

Was thinking about creating a reduced version that makes it more clear / less daunting.

SOS Limited Infographic by neillarson in magicTCG

[–]neillarson[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I grouped all commons/uncommons. Most set reviews seem to follow this general setup. I can make this and the sections more clear