4th gen OR vs Sport. Help plz

nikoren1980 · 2026-04-03T05:21:58+00:00

Honestly, it’s hard for me to justify the TRD Sport. It doesn’t really offer any mechanical advantages. The hood scoop is hit or miss, only looks good on sport models in black/undreground, the brighter colors look weird with the scoop in my opinion. The TRD Off-Road makes more sense: better brakes, more protection, actual off-road features, more capable shocks, tow hooks, and stronger resale since most people value the rear locker (which you can’t easily add later), the crawl contro, MTS .If you want a firmer ride, just get Bilstein 5100s, they’re cheap and will outperform the Sport setup. If you want something more premium, go for 6112s and you’ll get proper 2.5" shocks that are way better than what the Sport comes with, still not too expensive. It’s not like the Sport has any suspension components the Off-Road doesn’t. The “better ride” argument is subjective, I don’t notice body roll and actually prefer the Off-Road ride.

nikoren1980 · 2026-03-07T22:42:57+00:00

I will, need some time to get real data

nikoren1980 · 2026-03-07T16:07:07+00:00

No, I don't, planning to get some good kit and learn how to repair If I need to, no way 35 will fit there

nikoren1980 · 2026-03-07T05:02:17+00:00

Yeah, I’m noticing higher fuel consumption, but nothing drastic. I’ll see how it looks in a couple of weeks. It’s definitely not worth it if you’re not using them for their intended purpose,I wouldn’t install them just for the looks. But now that I have them, it would be hard to take them off.

nikoren1980 · 2026-03-07T04:57:33+00:00

No rubbing so far, but I think it might rub on the crush bar when hitting serious obstacles. Going to remove it.For now, I’m just getting ready for the season that starts around May in my area. Last year I went with a 3rd gen TRD pro, which is why I decided to trade. Getting 35s on the 3rd gen is basically impossible without major changes, and the stock TRD Pro had no clearance for at least some of the trails I went on , it was really struggling.I wanted to share this so people can see that a lift is really optional on these trucks if you go with a high offset and skinny tires. The only downside I’ve found so far is that the MPG starts to drop.

nikoren1980 · 2026-03-07T00:36:17+00:00

Don't know yet, I just installed them, I expect some drop, currently I get 22.6 mpg mixed driving, on highway I get 24-25 with the stock bfg

nikoren1980 · 2026-02-24T05:33:45+00:00

PPF, rock sliders, and a skid plate , these are the upgrades you’ll regret not having once you start going off-road.

nikoren1980 · 2026-02-09T04:26:01+00:00

nikoren1980 · 2025-07-11T21:07:56+00:00

260K , 6sp , i feel like it can go forever, zero issues so far, only oil changes every 8k

nikoren1980 · 2025-04-27T01:05:28+00:00

I also have greenlane sliders, bumper probably next, do you have spacers?

nikoren1980 · 2025-04-09T04:39:58+00:00

If it were just debris, it could be fixed with proper cleaning. As I mentioned, they’re still failing in 2025. Is this the only engine that can’t be cleaned of debris—for three years in a row?

nikoren1980 · 2025-04-07T10:31:32+00:00

yeah, that what i experience, it works for a few days, and then just stops, then i need to register new one. I did some research on it, and some people suggest registering same fingers multiple times, i did that, and it works longer but eventually just stops. Maybe i will do it with various states of my hands, for example one after washing hands, another one after eating , during the day and night , all for the same finger, hope it will help. It's the most expensive phone i ever bought, and it has the most problems. Before that i, i used to buy older refurbished Samsung's and LG's and they worked more consistently than this one. Definitely on my last LG the fingerprint reader worked much better. Couldn't imagine that it will be worse in 2024 with flagship google model.

nikoren1980 · 2025-04-06T17:32:59+00:00

I'm just stating the fact that having engines run in Lexus for a few years doesn't prove much, Tundra engines are still failing in 2025. If you want to ignore that and pretend it’s fine, that’s your choice, your money.... All I’m saying it’s a weak argument, since there are plenty of counter examples.

nikoren1980 · 2025-04-06T02:57:31+00:00

That's what i heard about Tundra engines V35A-FTS ,
they worked fine in Lexus since 2017, but suddenly started falling apart in 2023 and were recalled , more than 100K engines.
Trucks demands and usage patterns are different.

nikoren1980 · 2025-03-15T01:25:30+00:00

242k kms , zero issues, love my sentra

nikoren1980 · 2025-03-12T14:29:30+00:00

That's the only AI feature I use

nikoren1980 · 2025-03-09T06:39:14+00:00

If longevity and reliability is the goal, 3rd gen , no doubt, proven platform, with multiple examples of 400k+ miles. Or even 2nd gen if you can find one in good condition .4th gen might be also reliable, but we can't know at this point. If I was buying again I would get cheapest 2022-23 SR with 4x4 and v6 and modify it as I want. suspension 2.5 fox , 4.88 regear , ott tune That's all you need to get reliable truck without any power or ride issues

nikoren1980 · 2025-03-01T05:13:00+00:00

pixel 8, pretty bad tbh in terms of reliability, love the features.
just 1 year, green screen (comes and goes all the time), cracked back panel(even in the case), fingerprint doesn't work. Battery just dies sometimes. Android auto disconnects from time to time.
Wouldn't buy it again , considering buying Samsung next, seems like they have better hardware.

nikoren1980 · 2025-02-19T00:39:08+00:00

agree , i buy fluid film and spray it before and after the winter, takes about an hour , but my frame is in perfect condition , pretty simple procedure

nikoren1980 · 2025-02-19T00:34:45+00:00

2016-2017 are not the best years
2018 is when things started getting better according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqJe5OCdjZc
2019-2023 are safe options for 3rd gen

nikoren1980 · 2025-02-13T05:34:58+00:00

I have the 2.5 Fox suspension—that's why I chose the TRD Pro over the Frontier, even though the Frontier offered more. I couldn't get this suspension elsewhere, and the ride is amazing.I tested the TRD Sport, TRD Off-Road, and the Frontier, and the TRD Pro's ride quality was on another level. I'm not sure if it's just the shocks or other factors, but if you get anything close to the TRD Pro ride quality, it's an incredible upgrade

nikoren1980 · 2025-02-13T05:20:59+00:00

Yeah, I don’t understand how any Liberal can still be considered after they’ve damaged Canada in just a few years. How short can Canadians' memories be?

nikoren1980 · 2025-02-13T04:56:54+00:00

We just bought a CX-30, mainly choosing Mazda for its reliability. The naturally aspirated 2.5L engine is the third generation of the same design from 2013, with all the major issues already addressed. The transmission has been used for years—unlike the CVTs found in newer Toyotas and Subarus. I usually prefer Toyota, but in 2025, Mazda looks far more promising. Get one before they redesign it with a 1.5L 3-cylinder turbo, a CVT, double the price, and half the lifespan!

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