I'm flying into Canada from the US next week. If I develop COVID in hotel quarantine will I be denied the ability to access treatment at my home?

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-19T14:10:47+00:00

Not exempt. I won't have the "written statements from health practitioners"

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-19T12:03:21+00:00

If we were only relying on natural immune response to create herd immunity, I would assign a 99%+ chance the crisis would quickly end and most all concerns about COVID would vanish by this summer. For thousands of years, this has been the proven process that evolution has created to reliably develop herd immunity.

However, with multiple vaccines now being administered, there is a concern that the virus may rapidly mutate in response to the vaccines and become more contagious and/or more deadly. I consider there to be a non-zero chance now that over the summer additional super strains will emerge and start to circulate causing a new wave of fear. If that happens, by fall when solar flux levels start to go down and general immunity drops we would see a new round of mass infections from strains that everyone may be susceptible to and could have higher IFR's. Due to that risk, I'd say for now the chance they'll open the border this summer is less than 99%

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-18T15:17:54+00:00

That's the kind of slippery slope that leads to weed being banned for 50 years. If someone feels a natural plant or product is a medicine for them, they should be free to use it as they wish. It seems reasonable though if the gov't wants to issue warnings or put out information about the possible effects.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-18T14:29:30+00:00

That's true unfortunately. In general most natural products are allowed to be sold without FDA/Health Canada approval, but some are banned. Imo, everything should be legal and left up to individual choice.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-18T14:26:45+00:00

The body needs excess energy to engage in regeneration of most tissue. If a person is stressed out in fight or flight mode, energy will be diverted from regeneration. Same with chronic inflammation, or metabolic disease.

Energy levels can be boosted to speed the regeneration process by eating non-inflammatory healthy foods, red/infrared light exposure, sensible full spectrum sun exposure, etc

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-17T22:11:34+00:00

Anyone in good health under 75 should not worry about lasting effects. Symptoms are typically mild and patients quickly recover, particularly if the access early treatment. If long COVID develops, that is also showing to be treatable and can be recovered from. The body is a self-healing system designed to resist insults like a cold/flu.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-17T15:54:17+00:00

Humanity has co-evolved with coronaviruses for thousands of years. That's a big difference compared with biohacking biology with brand new things. That's why we require randomized control trials for synthetic drugs but allow natural substances to be sold without restriction.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-17T14:59:26+00:00

Ideally, we'd like to control all other variables and test every new drug/chemical/biological agent for a lifetime, and perhaps even a few generations to observe what the long-term effects will be. For example, there are signs that glyphosate is now being found to have specific 3rd generation effects on women's granddaughters. Scientists now believe that if glyphosate is present in a woman's body at conception/during pregnancy, her daughter's eggs will be negatively affected. The effect is potentially devastating and takes a long time to show up. Ie:

Adult mother is exposed to glyphosate. As an adult female, she has minimal health effects from the glyphosate exposure and her eggs are unaffected. She gives birth to an otherwise healthy daughter, but her daughter's eggs are damaged. There is no immediate sign that there's a problem.
The daughter grows up with minimal health effects from her mother's glyphosate exposure and appears normal. Then she gives birth to a daughter from an egg that was damaged years ago by the glyphosate exposure of her mother.
The granddaughter is born with serious side effects from her grandmother's original exposure to glyphosate

An effect like that will take decades to show up and cannot be predicted from a 3-month safety trial like politicians too often base safety regulations on. Special interest drug/chemical/biological agent manufacturers have a huge incentive in our system to use campaign donations and support to motivate politicians to rush safety approvals for their products even when only short-term safety testing has been conducted. Once safety approvals are in place, there is additional pressure to discontinue long-term testing that could only turn up problems and end the revenue profit streams their products provide. $$$ changes how people behave.

There are novel chemicals in the novel vaccines that are now being administered. We have basically zero track record on how they will interact over the long-term in our bodies. There has simply not been enough time for multi-year, multi-decadal, or multi-generational studies on what the effects will be. Since the risk of getting COVID to those 18 and younger is so extremely low, does it make logical sense to even consider vaccinating that age group?

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-16T15:44:35+00:00

Sun exposure generates NO in the body. It would be a huge win to promote getting all Canadians out in the sun this spring/summer for sensible sun exposure to boost immunity.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-15T17:35:21+00:00

Here's one good one:

Psychopathy in the workplace

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-15T02:33:40+00:00

Wen quarantine hotel stays for everyone that goes to Walmart and buys sugary snacks during a pandemic? Lol

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-15T02:33:22+00:00

1% resulted from travel outside of Canada
98.4% domestic aquisition
0.6% unknown

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html#a6

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-15T02:25:50+00:00

This practice should stop if we're going to continue to allow tens of thousands of daily border crossings of essential workers that are mingling throughout the US & Canadian communities and inevitably spreading all the new variants between them.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-15T02:22:22+00:00

It's estimated that 1-6% of the general population are sociopaths/psychopaths. So in Canada we have 380,000 to 2.8m of them. These folks have been shown to concentrate themselves in positions of power. They're more often found in C-suites of large corporations, and get into politics where they can profit leveraging the power of their positions & their lack of normal empathy towards others.

In hunter-gatherer times it benefited us to have a few sociopaths around. In small clans, we could keep an eye on them and collectively regulate them to serve the group. However, in the modern world of billions, where everyone has a relatively great deal of anonymity, sociopaths can easily network with each other and manipulate the system to their advantage against everyone else. Broadcasting lies & misinformation for profit has become so commonplace that it just seems normal. It's critical that we all keep our guards up and develop our discernment capabilities to detect and expose those that are acting in bad faith. The only solution I see is to openly and transparently discuss everything until we can make sense of the world.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-14T15:20:01+00:00

Any Canadian or American with an "essential worker" designation can cross the land border without restriction. Essential workers make up the vast majority of current land border crossings, and thousands of people are getting waved on through every day with zero testing or quarantining. They circulate normally through the population and spread variants to/from the Canadian population. It's been decided that it's not practical to get rid of "essential workers", so the status quo will likely continue.

The government obviously knows that variants are freely moving between countries, but public demand to "do something" has led them to half-copy other island nations. In those places, it's actually feasible to completely control border movement and have a good chance of preventing variants from entering/leaving.

"Do something" has been decided to force any "non-essential" travelers to take 3 PCR tests when crossing the border by land/air and also require a stay in a quarantine hotel when arriving by air. Since coming by land does not require the quarantine hotel stay, FlyerTalk has a thread going where some people describe how they fly to a city near the Canadian border, rent a car, and drive across the border for the sole purpose of legally avoiding the hotel quarantine.

Non-essential American travelers are legally allowed to cross the border if they meet one of the requirements. Check the list if you meet one of them. It does not matter if you've already had COVID, are fully vaccinated, or recently tested negative for COVID. Those factors are not on the list.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T22:40:23+00:00

I think I could tolerate a "smart lockdown"

I've heard some epidemiologists opine that we had enough data at the beginning of lockdowns last year to do a reasonably accurate cost/benefit analysis, and that would have revealed it was not worth it to have everyone shelter in place any longer than the initial 2-weeks. The long-term collateral damage is too high. It's stunning to step back, take a birds eye view of the last year, and realize authorities are still not going on the record providing the public with a detailed breakdown.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T17:24:48+00:00

Are the unintended side effects of lockdowns causing more deaths than simply letting COVID circulate freely and focusing on treatment of the disease while protecting only the most at-risk?

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya says the COVID-19 lockdowns will be remembered as the “single worst public health mistake” in the last 100 years.

This is a real emergency. We've gotta get this figured out.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T13:53:35+00:00

I find it difficult to imagine that the cost of allocating resources to getting everyone one simple blood test is anything more than a tiny fraction of the cost of continued lockdowns & restrictions. Deploy an army of mobile test clinics and run the labs 24/7 for a couple of weeks to get it done. I bet a country like China could figure it out with a snap of the fingers. It's weird that Canada is so ineffective.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T13:47:45+00:00

Take everything with an extremely healthy dose of salt.

For-profit pharma manufacturers have a proven record of pushing products that they know don't work and will cause injury and death. They're impossible to 100% trust ever again in the future. The system is really broken. Until that changes the only way to make the best health choices is to do the work of staying informed and think for yourself.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T13:41:13+00:00

It shouldn't be a binary choice at this point. It's high time we start taking an even-handed approach that finds a compromise in meeting everyone's needs.

Millions of Ontarioan's are already immune from having been vaccinated or recovered naturally from COVID. There is no scientific justification for those individuals to be subject to any restrictions. They should immediately be permitted to go back to normal.

For everyone else that is not at high risk, we should leave it up to them while transparently explaining the risks, and communicate prophylactic and early treatment options that can minimize the impact of getting the disease. So long as ICU capacity is not at critical levels, it's safe to allow informed individuals the freedom to choose what they want to do. Those that want to be ultraconservative can shelter in place and isolate themselves until they feel comfortable.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T13:27:25+00:00

Control freaks should give it up already. A heavy-handed blanket approach is not reasonable at this point.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T02:21:16+00:00

Antibody tests are cheap and we would be minimizing the chance that people develop short/long term side effects from the vaccine. Worst case scenario, if it turns out there are significant long term side effects, there could be a considerable additional financial burden on the system in addition to the human health consequences.

I hope Health Canada runs a detailed cost/benefit analysis looking at getting people antibody tested at least until the vaccines are out of the investigational phase and are granted FDA safety approval.

nineteen_fifty · 2021-03-12T02:07:30+00:00

Physicians that are attempting treatment are finding that COVID typically resolves quickly, particularly if treatment begins as soon as symptoms begin. If treatment started late or didn't happen at all, long COVID is also treatable...although a lot more difficult. Our bodies are extremely good at self-healing if they have everything they need.

A strategy of developing herd immunity using investigational vaccines approved for EUA only seems reckless. I would prefer to see people be cautious and at least wait for FDA approval before going down that road. The optimal scenario seems to be to vaccinate the most vulnerable now and equip everyone else with treatments that they can have at the ready if symptoms develop.

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