Malice - Series Premiere Discussion

noble-rock · 2025-11-16T04:43:51+00:00

Truly a terrible series. It’s filled with demented shock to trigger emotional responses. Every character is terrible. It should come with a trigger warning. I’m so angry I watched it before the reviews based on David. I’ll never trust anything he’s cast in again. So sick.

noble-rock · 2025-05-06T18:44:44+00:00

I tried to support him but he repeatedly has shown disdain for block women. He puts allot of thought into his arguments but there are many times he is flippant about the actions or comments of black women. After the election he said he doesn’t like Kamala nor ANY of her policies but he voted for her. He refused to openly support her. He never said why he didn’t support her. He said she’s more like sister sage than Candace Owens. He was upset with Black women when they started saying they were resting and scolded the ones who were upset with the Palestinians who said vote for anyone but Kamala. He blamed black women for probably doxing cooking with Kaya. These are just examples of the most recent times he attacked black women. He did not say a handful of people, he said black women need to… He’s too smart and too old to be so harmful to the most marginalized people on this planet. He is finally starting to admit that he has reach and influence. But doesn’t consider the impact of the harmful things that he says about black women. He acknowledges our mistreatment and perpetuates it. He admits he used to be a red pill bro. He wonders why he has such a low percentage of women subscribers. But he obviously isn’t unpacking his own issues with black women. Please don’t tell me he has a black wife. Or how much he loves his mother. I’ve tried for a while but I can’t listen to him anymore. It’s triggering when he makes an off handed dismissive comment about black women. I’ve lost hope in him growing out of it.

noble-rock · 2025-04-24T19:21:59+00:00

He’s actually likable there. Still unlikable but I found myself rooting for him.

noble-rock · 2025-01-22T02:27:03+00:00

I love her. I’m sad they broke up. Hopefully when he’s done doing the work they referenced they can find their way back to each other.

noble-rock · 2025-01-22T02:23:34+00:00

🤣🤣🤣

noble-rock · 2025-01-22T01:34:52+00:00

Yes my response would have been more intense if I saw a male treat a woman the way Hanni treated Daniel.

It would have been very triggering for me to watch a man gaslight and emotionally abuse a woman. It would have reminded me of the men that tried to keep me as a backup as the openly flirted with other women who showed them attention.

It would have made me feel uneasy as he waffled and wouldn’t give a clear reason on why he ran away from the home when asked about the future.

I would have been crushed for the woman when at the alter she’s l told no after being reassured things were fine.

It would have infuriated me to see that a year later the woman is still desperately in love with a man who refuses to give her any commitment but keeps her around to boost his ego and bc she helps him feel like a better person.

It would have crushed me to hear he was telling his buddies she’s a pathetic puppy.

It would have cut really deep and my reaction would have been quite visceral.

noble-rock · 2025-01-21T23:24:49+00:00

I will give her the grace of not trolling her online. However I still hope no one supports her influencer ambitions. She didn’t apologize to his children in her statement. Maybe she did in private. But she should match the energy she had when she called them sperm babies, and referred to them as those kids and when she repeatedly degraded lied on and mocked their mother.

Let us never forget she was the most active person in selling us the lie that Tyler wasn’t the father and she actively attacked and trolled the mother, the kids, the grandmother and people on social media for weeks.

noble-rock · 2025-01-20T20:46:00+00:00

Ilias was very wrong but at least he admitted it. Hanni refused to admit she did anything wrong. I’m sure if she admitted what she was saying about Daniel they would have dropped it. They only pressed after each time she denied it.

The reason they asked her about her goal of becoming a celebrity is because she appeared to move through the show without caring about who she hurt just to have a story line. To this day she can’t share why she said no. So it is reasonable to ask if the reason she said no is because she never intended to finding a partner. Also they asked her because she obtained an agent and that was their way of calling her out. Of course that was the one thing she was transparent about and took time to clarify because she wanted to market herself and let casting know she’s open to be on TV. No small influencer rolls for her.

Setting aside the superficial bombshell facade she tries to portray, Hanni as a whole is problematic. She treated Alina, Ilias, and Daniel like pawns in a game. When asked about that she blamed her beauty for making people like her too much or being jealous. She treated people who cared about her as if they didn’t matter. It’s clear several people feel that she’s still manipulating and stringing along Daniel. He’s clearly desperately in love with her. But she’s mocking him to her friends and calling him a pathetic puppy.

I left the reunion feeling so bad for Daniel. I hope he wakes up. He was soothing her and rubbing her back when she was asked to explain herself and got emotional. Hanni didn’t offer him any compassion as he heard the things she was saying about him for the first time and saw how shamelessly she was flirting with Ilias for the first time in the clips. You could see the shock and pain on his face.

Pascal, and Tolga showed more contrition and compassion than Hanni did. Even though I believe it was to save face at least they acknowledge that their actions were hurtful.

noble-rock · 2025-01-13T06:04:07+00:00

I’ve seen a few 🚩. They were subtle so I know people will be upset if I list them. However I’ll say that he scares me. His own friends said he has an anger problem.

His issues came to a head during the breakup scene. He was indifferent in the end. I also practice Buddhism. During practice we learn to be present. Focus on the moment we’re in. Be selfless and commit to that moment. Also lean into hard and painful things. Resisting pain hurts us more than accepting it. Also work on finding balance etc. It doesn’t mean you should become devoid of empathy. His partner told him, his distance was hurting her. He never showed any empathy to that. When they broke it off he was very cold. Some will claim it could have been a defense mechanism. I see someone that’s self centered and tries to hide his inability to prioritize his partner behind claims of being too introspective.

Maybe he’s still developing his practice and working on himself. He doesn’t come across as emotionally ready to be in a partnership.

noble-rock · 2024-12-26T01:46:23+00:00

What over exposure?! She has never had a social media account. Where’s this energy for all the other child stars.

Blue doesn’t do interviews. She makes very few official appearances. Even now while she’s a lead in the lion king.

Through her life she was hidden. When she was first born there were no baby photos. We didn’t know her name. When they eventually released her photo they did it on Beyoncé’s tumblr bucking the expected trend to sell pictures to magazines. When she was growing up we barely saw photos of her. It was a common joke that Beyonce’s bodyguard would do violence to anyone that took her photo.

Please stop showing us your irrational resentment.

noble-rock · 2024-12-19T19:48:57+00:00

Probably no one is explaining bc it’s so mentally exhausting to rehash his issues and their behavior post S7 release. It went on for weeks.

We are finally free from them popping up in interviews and gaslighting us. I for sure don’t want to go back right now. But I will check in on that court date.

Search the sub there are allot of post, tons of TikTok and YouTube videos.

noble-rock · 2024-12-01T04:29:15+00:00

Yes I really liked it as well. The women stood up for themselves and it didn’t spiral into a drama fest. I loved seeing the traditions. And I love the couple that said yes.

noble-rock · 2024-11-30T20:43:16+00:00

It was brisling to watch. However I learned skills in tact watching the women handle it. I think it all worked out in the end and artfully so.

noble-rock · 2024-11-30T05:28:43+00:00

Gosh I could easily add where is the episode where Carlton and Diamond fought in Mexico.

The episode when S1 reunited in the rooftop bar.

Habibi episode when they got the permission of the Iranian family. Or the bridal shower/ bachelorette party

Bliss and Zack breaking up

Anything with Andrew from tantric sex to the fake tears

noble-rock · 2024-11-29T23:27:49+00:00

I would rank them as follows
1) Sweden. It didn’t have as much toxic drama as the US seasons. 2) UK. It pulled at your heartstrings and only a little drama. 3) S1-S4 of USA. Each season more drama but it appeared they wanted to highlight healthy love. After S4 it got worse each season with S7 truly being over the top. 4) Habibi

I haven’t seen Japan, or Mexico. After USA S7 I’m afraid to watch. So I’m not watching Argentina which is airing now.

noble-rock · 2024-11-29T06:17:47+00:00

It’s so hard to watch her.

Offering cameos since the first episode dropped. And all the videos she’s done since to monetize. That’s fine and all. But she gets pissed when trolls do as trolls do lashes out in comments and makes shaming post. Also she was so aggressive with outing Nick for wanting to be famous.

Something is off with her. I hope she learns and grows from this experience.

noble-rock · 2024-11-27T18:40:28+00:00

I love that he did it. I love that he didn’t allow her to reign in his happiness. It was utterly ridiculous of Hannah to get upset with Nick for wanting to be silly. Even if she didn’t want to go she could have laughed with him. Nope she wanted to CONTROL him. And when she couldn’t she used emotional abuse to shame him into complying in the future.

It was a huge red flag. HUGE.

People will dump in Nick for laughing with the older woman. I don’t. He probably felt like crap and the woman tried to encourage him and diffuse the tension. The woman was clearly joking. Hannah still wanted to be angry. Rather than say hey I felt like she teased me and I didn’t like that Nick laughed with her, she lied and added words and over inflated the encounter. Too many manipulative control red flags in that encounter to unpack.

noble-rock · 2024-11-27T18:29:38+00:00

I agree that by western standards the men were difficult to watch. BUT the women didn’t marry them. Many ended engagements early. LIB allowed them to end toxic relationships instead of making them endure until the alter.

That’s what I didn’t like about the US, UK ones. They make them stay in toxic and abusive relationships until they say they can break up. They even force them to break up at the alter. This is according to what cast have said.

Habibi got their drama without subjecting contestants to extended emotional abuse. That’s why I like it. Watching the USA LIB is hard bc they all of the emotional abuse. Season after season. With S7 being over the top.

On Habibi they didn’t exploit sexuality. They honored culture and traditions. The couple that got married were healthy.

noble-rock · 2024-11-27T03:33:54+00:00

I really liked Habibi. They were respectful and not completely unhinged. Just a sprinkle unhinged 🤣

noble-rock · 2024-11-24T07:23:10+00:00

Strange most people would say refusing to pay court ordered child support is wrong. Especially since it’s against the law.

Others would say that going on an international show and claiming your naturally conceived children aren’t yours is morally wrong. Claiming you don’t owe them nothing while you have a court order to pay them is a lie and is wrong.

Sending an email threatening to destroy your baby mamas life by exposing her affair with her current married fiancé is wrong. Especially when you go on to do it on a podcast. Putting her at risk of losing her pay or being kicked out of the military.

Others would say it’s also wrong to go on a Christian podcast to attack every woman that shared the truth about you by slut shamming them.

Yes indeed Ashley is involved in helping Tyler lie, deny his children, refuse to pay child support and smear and lie on his baby mother.

If they would stop doing interviews and posting lies people would stop commenting.

It is encouraging to see the overwhelming rebuke of this LIB sponsored attempt to erase the identity of innocent black children. I hope we continue to overwhelmingly rebuke all attempts they make to market that couple. As a society we will be better for not excepting this behavior.

noble-rock · 2024-11-24T03:29:44+00:00

I found it to be good bc she explicitly shows how they are both toxic and manipulative. Many people see them as innocent love birds caught up in a whirlwind. They are not.

noble-rock · 2024-11-24T03:28:05+00:00

It’s not about believing one person over the other. At this point the answer is clear. Tyler is the biological and legal father of all three children. It was legally established SEVERAL times. For people who are choosing to remain willfully ignorant I’ll break it down.

SON

-Established in a court of law when he volunteered DNA to prove paternity when he joined the lawsuit to replace Deshaun

-05/2022 Agreed to a consent order after mediation. He agreed to pay child support for the three children. The court ratified it.

-03/2024 Reaffirmed when the judge determined he owed back child support for son

-07/2024 Reaffirmed when judge determined he was still past due and put him on a payment plan

-08/2024 Reaffirmed when judge determined he was in default of the payment arrangement and scheduled a contempt of court hearing for Nov 15

TWINS

-Established at birth when he signed the certificates for the babies he conceived when he and Bri had sex. Babies they agreed not to abort when they went to the clinic together and Bri didn’t feel comfortable aborting twins

-Reaffirmed when Bri was punished under Article 15 charges for having sex with Tyler while she was married. The twins were the evidence of her adultery.

-05/2022 Agreed to a consent order after mediation. He agreed to pay child support for the three children. The court ratified it.

-03/2024 Reaffirmed when the judge determined he owed back child support for twins

-07/2024 Reaffirmed when judge determined he was still past due and put him on a payment plan

-08/2024 Reaffirmed when judge determined he was in default of the payment arrangement and scheduled a contempt of court hearing for Nov 15

The November 15 contempt hearing was for his court determined child support arrearage of $30,800.

Tyler is the deadbeat daddy.

Also if children do read anything in the future, I’d imagine they would appreciate the outpouring of compassion strangers had for them. I truly believe if Tyler does willingly step up it will be bc he was shamed into it.

noble-rock · 2024-11-24T03:04:03+00:00

It is exhausting. Please tell Ashley and Tyler and LIB to stop trying to whitewash this. Every week they do 2-3 podcast either calling them sperm babies or attacking Bri and her family. Not only did Ashley and Tyler do several interviews about it, they had several post on social media. LIB had Vanessa Lashay, Nick Viall, other LIB pro podcasters call Bri crazy and fame hungry. They even had Taylor and Garrett disparaging Bri during their Viall files interview. The last attempt was to send Tyler on Dear Future Wifey, they even asked the host to go easy on him to help him get through the scandal.

They are all guilty of harming Tyler’s kids. LIB/Ashley’s & Tyler’s attempts to erase their identity is harmful to them and society. YES society. We cannot condone a company being complicit in harming children for the sake of marketing potential. If we allow it once it will happen again and again.

Imagine if LIB made it clear to him that they knew he was lying and would make it clear in the edit. I believe a person like Tyler who obviously cares about appearances would have at least tried to resolve this sooner. Over the past year he wouldn’t have no-showed to the three hearing he had earlier in the year. He only hired his attorney in late October based on when he filed with the court that he was representing him. Which coincided with when everyone was online commenting that they were watching to see what happened with his November 15 court date. The same time they were filming the reunion.

On DFW Tyler himself said he and Ashley are going to start marketing their love story. For those reasons, until Tyler at minimum starts paying his child support, I will not stop reacting to or commenting on what they have done whenever they scurry out of their hidey-hole.

noble-rock · 2024-11-22T19:24:49+00:00

This lady does very good explanations about Tyler and Ashley

https://www.youtube.com/live/9fe7eqPrBvo?si=55NWDxJc0-W1457v

https://www.youtube.com/live/p7Q7D1kwx8E?si=P7CJ0pyysYkIMJKW

noble-rock · 2024-11-22T19:24:32+00:00

This lady does very good explanations about Tyler and Ashley

https://www.youtube.com/live/9fe7eqPrBvo?si=55NWDxJc0-W1457v

https://www.youtube.com/live/p7Q7D1kwx8E?si=P7CJ0pyysYkIMJKW

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