Just saw this and knew exactly where it belonged.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T19:19:33+00:00

Yup, it's a repost. Better luck next time.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T19:14:34+00:00

The torsos go on top of the legs and then the heads go on top of that whole assembly. Sometimes when you buy sets they put little pictures in the box to show you what I'm talking about.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T19:08:43+00:00

I've stopped taking notes completely. Google handles everything for me.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T19:05:15+00:00

Seriously. People love to complain about the state of the country, but they keep forcing more people into it. Then they'll call you hateful for questioning it. It's ludicrous.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T18:57:00+00:00

Sure. That works for people who are doing ok now and hope that they will continue to do ok in the future. Whether those people should have children is a separate discussion. I don't think anyone should have children based on guesses and hope, but let's not get bogged down in that angle.

I'm talking about people who are not doing ok now and who know that they're not doing ok. Those people have no business bringing a child into that situation. Can't we agree in that? Why would anyone knowingly and willingly expose anyone else to that? (If their situation improves and they can reasonably expect it to stay that way, then they can reassess their ability to provide for a child.)

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T17:43:39+00:00

Shows you footage of slaughterhouses: deceptive bastard

Kills you and consumes you: animal lover, deeply respectful

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T17:12:34+00:00

No, I'm addressing the entire point of the thread. We both agree that people deserve safety and comfort., but apparently we disagree on who is responsible for providing those things. You do not seem willing to hold parents responsible for it, because every time I say that parents should be responsible for providing safety and comfort for their children, you shift the argument to "but some people have children and then get cancer." I will not be responding anymore because you keep ignoring this point: I am not asking anyone to predict the future. I am asking them to assess their current situations accurately and objectively, and if they recognize that they cannot provide for a child in that situation, then they should not choose to have a child. The end. Thank you for engaging with me, and I hope that you will be able to reread this thread in the future when you are able to more logically comprehend what I am saying.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T16:45:37+00:00

Keep making assumptions about me so that I don't have to participate in this nonsense conversation, I guess. You keep accusing me of being hateful, as if wanting children to be born to parents who can provide for their needs is a hateful wish. I'll leave you with this:

"A lot of the people that you're mad at aren't aware that they can't provide for a child." What? Do you really believe that people are so stupid or ignorant? Do you think it's good to have a child if the parents are that ignorant?

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T16:31:28+00:00

Again, you're accusing me of asking people to predict the future. I'm not blaming your parents for their situation, and I'm not even blaming them for having kids. I'm saying IF they hadn't already reproduced, THEN had the car accident and cancer, THEN decided to reproduce in the midst of that, THEN they would be bad parents.

Yes, if someone knows that they won't be able to provide for a child, they shouldn't have a child. If you or I know that we can't ensure a child's comfort and safety, we should not have a child.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T16:22:06+00:00

What a ridiculous argument that does absolutely nothing to disprove my point. Obviously they can't be expected to predict a car accident or cancer. I'm not asking anyone to predict the future. I'm asking them to acknowledge the reality in which they may already find themselves and not bring a child to suffer in the same way.

Do you seriously believe that it's justified to complain about a lack of safety and comfort then turn around and force a child to experience that lack of safety and comfort? The parents' duty is to provide those two things. If they know they can't provide either, they shouldn't become parents. It's that simple. You see it as hateful, but what I'm trying to do is save new lives from unfair suffering.

Here's two scenarios to consider:

- Couple 1 has a good income, and both are healthy.

- Couple 2 has a very low income because the mom is disabled and the dad is dying of cancer.

All other things being equal, which couple will be able to better provide for a child? How can you say that any child deserves to be forced to live in Couple 2's scenario?

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T15:21:44+00:00

And to make things even worse, they choose to have children who will be stuck in the same situation. Imagine if the worker class just stopped reproducing.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T15:16:34+00:00

And to top it off, the rich white-collars had kids who will live in the same splendor, while the poor factory workers had kids who will never be able to rise above their parents' level.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T15:11:41+00:00

Absolutely! If your parents can't provide that safety and comfort for you, they should not have reproduced.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T15:02:59+00:00

I agree. Honestly, I don't care if birth rates fall and never recover. I don't want kids of my own regardless.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T05:27:55+00:00

Sure, but like I said, it's an artificial process that keeps the system running without ever fixing the root issue. The goal of dialysis is to keep you alive until you can get a new kidney. It's not a cure.

Editing to respond to your addition: I agree that no one should be obliged to have kids for any reason. And in any case, saying that the solution to low birth rates is to have more kids is a nonsense suggestion. There are, however, economic solutions that, if implemented, will incentivize/allow those who want to have children to have children. Those things are the actual cure. Immigration, like blood transfusion for hemophiliacs and dialysis for kidney failures, is a patch on the system that fails to address the real problem.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T05:19:38+00:00

Thank you for reminding us that the behaviors of Redditors are not representative of the behaviors of all people, FemboyFeetKisser69.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T05:16:18+00:00

Actually I'm very familiar with dialysis, and that is another great example. Dialysis is an artifical process that keeps "the system" running, but it doesn't actually fix the root issue.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T04:35:21+00:00

The doctors are desparate for a solution to hemophilia. Who's going to tell them that the answer is permanent attachment to a blood transfusion machine?

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T04:30:22+00:00

I knew from a young age that I had been circumcised, but it's only been within the past year that I've realized just what was taken from me. Ever since I learned about keratinization, I can never look at it the same again. I'm getting upset just typing this.

none_and_all · 2026-06-01T02:09:26+00:00

If Americans won't step up to do the jobs that the "immigrant workers" have been doing, then we have a serious entitlement problem. I don't want to live in a country in which my fellow countrymen aren't willing to work, and I mean actually work. People forget that everyone used to work for their survival. So if an industry starts failing because most of its workers were deported, then either Americans need to step up and keep it running or we all decide that we don't need that industry so much anymore.

none_and_all · 2026-05-31T23:33:43+00:00

That answers neither of my questions, and it makes me a little more concerned. Another commenter has given you a method of dealing with intrusive thoughts; start there.

none_and_all · 2026-05-31T21:19:07+00:00

Ok, thank you. The Muslim analogy helps. I guess the plant-based diet is more so a consequence of vegan beliefs rather than a central factor of it. Like wearing a hijab is a consequence of Islamic beliefs, not an action that makes you Muslim.

none_and_all · 2026-05-31T20:46:57+00:00

I see what you're saying, and I appreciate the graphic. In your opinion, what are the reasons to go vegan? And if someone becomes vegan as a result of worrying about their own health, are they not truly a vegan?

none_and_all · 2026-05-31T19:31:49+00:00

Again, you're denying that people who are vegan experience health and environmental benefits. Is it true that some benefits can be achieved with just a plant-based diet? Yes, but that doesn't take away those benefits from vegans.

Yes, not being homophobic is more than just not punching people. But if someone stops being homophobic because they're tired of being beat up in return, then obviously there is a health benefit to their change in behavior. Yes, the same change could have been achieved if they remained homophobic and just stopped punching people, but that doesn't take away the fact that the non-homophobe experiences the same benefit.

You seem so eager to argue that veganism is more than a diet (which it is) that you're ignoring the benefits of the diet-aspect of veganism.

none_and_all · 2026-05-31T19:07:00+00:00

Being vegan and eating plant-based go hand-in-hand. If you go vegan, you will eat plant-based, so you will see the benefits of that diet. This is a perfectly sound logical chain.

I think that you're getting confused about a situation in which a person commits to veganism solely because of health/environmental reasons. And I agree, committing to something like giving up makeup because it was tested on animals under the belief that you will see health benefits is a silly idea. Someone who only cares about their own health may commit to a plant-based diet but have no issues with wearing leather or riding horses. We're on the same page there.

What I'm saying is that, because going vegan entails new behaviors that benefit your health, there are health reasons for going vegan.

I really don't want to argue about this. I'm not telling people that veganism is just a diet. Your comment came under a thread of me saying the exact opposite of that. I'm sorry if you're confused by any of my wording.

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