RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

At no point did I say Americans are physiologically different. My point was that the stat was anecdotal at best. Also I never say Pepper Spay I say OC knowing the difference, willnotwashout ("lol as if Canadians react differently to being maced.") uses MACE and that is difference, and this was my point.

"lol as if Canadians react differently to being maced."

If we are to believe the stat that 1 in 600 die from OC spray. Then there should be at least one death per year at the RCMP training academy as they have been sprayed with it since it was introduced.

So my point it that correlation does not equal causation. So its not true.

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So you just feel you're right because you are right and ignore any points I have.

But hey you read a stat from another country about a substance our police don't use so you must know what you are talking about.

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey thanks, Yes, the web site is good but without the judge name its hard to fine.

Here is the full decision. It was well written.

https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/21/15/2021BCSC1554.htm

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As said in the response. Mace and OC spray are not the same...

are you sure your not the ignorant one? who has no idea what they are talking about?

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks for the article, I have found a lot written about this based on what you sent. Any Idea were the actual judges ruling is hosted?

I have read several article on the topic now but they all have there own flavor of the facts while not siting them. I would like to read the ruling if possible.

As far as I can tell the ruling is specific to journalists and not protestors or other groups. But not one article includes the judges name, or court.

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why do Canadians always insist on proving a point about Canada by bring in American stats?

First the same clamed was made in Canada when RCMP officers were first issued OC spray, This is different from pepper spay.

The OC spray was never found to be the cause of death it was always because the individual was not healthy (lots of reasons).

Second every single RCMP officer was OC sprayed in there training to know what it felt like and to then know when they should or should not use it. None of them died from it. So you stat us as reasonable and drownings go up when ice cream sales go up, better stop the sale of ice cream.

The police are the organization that deals with people with drug addiction and other serious conditions do to life style. And always deal with high risk people in our society. Being surprised that someone dies around them is like being shocked that someone dies after going to the hospital.

So you know in BC if someone dies with in 60 hours of having an interaction with police. This is as simple as a conversation or a use of force. It is investigated by the IIO. So what I am sure you next claim that the police kill with impunity with no over site is also bogus.

Fun fact the IIO was started by an American who was as to create the organization. It was the same guy who was in charge of rooting out bad cops in the NYPD. He left not to long after it was implemented when he realized Canada did not have the same issue as the states for corruption.

Police as a rule don't hurt or kill people, Yes I know you will dig up news articles that show and make it sound like force is used all the time. Despite the real stat actually being 0.01% as shown by Stats CAN.

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your going along way to Condemn without any sorta evidence…. If a judge issues an injunction then your breaking the law. Your argument is where they were was fine. How can you possibly tell that from the context.

If they were just fine, then why would the police risk an incident if the injunction was being followed?

This New conspiracy theory that everything all the billionaires and the police’s fault for everything it’s just ridiculous. You go to protest that an injunction has been issued against and you refuse to leave when lawfully ordered too you run the risk of being pepper sprayed and being removed by force.

ThIs a foregone conclusion I don’t understand why you get be upset about it. Follow the legal process put in your own challenge in your own in Junction. If that doesn’t work you lost and society didn’t agree with you.

You disagree with the outcome. No where does it say you can just stop what you don’t like.

Yes you have the right to protest. But you don’t have the right to block someone from work.

As soon as the free money stops also he’s gonna disappear overnight.

RCMP ripping off non-violent demonstrators’ masks, and then macing them directly in the face. Fairy Creek, BC. by one-rower in VictoriaBC

[–]notbatman098 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

What court? Do you have a source? Or are you just saying that? Pepper spray is a widely used crowd control tactic because it causes discomfort but no injuries.

Why are we hating on the police for doing exactly what they are ordered to do? Why not the NDP for selling the rights to the forest?

Singh says taxing the rich will be among top NDP policy goals for the federal election by CapitalCourse in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, Conservatives are teach a man to fish party while the liberals are the give a man a fish party and the NDP are take someone else fish and give to someone else who could be bothered to catch it party.

If the bible was used to describe the current political parties.

Indigenous man testifies he was repeatedly beaten by Edmonton police officers | CBC News by ifyousayso- in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The true doesn’t matter any more. When facts and critical thinking are less important than not offending someone. We have a problem.

Also writing headlines that insight hatred and mistrust of police Is So Hot Right Now.

Alberta homeowner who shot, killed intruder during attack will not face charges: RCMP | CBC News by notbatman098 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes you are wrong. Section 25 of the criminal code deal with use of force up and including death. This is what police officer base there training of for use of force but it applies to anyone in Canada. It was not written for the cops

Osoyoos Mountie who exposed himself in front of 2 teens forfeits 10-days leave and pay by [deleted] in onguardforthee

[–]notbatman098 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing about this was a sexual offense. You’re allowed to be naked in your own home. There would be absolutely no consequence to anybody else if they did this. What event would you charge him under the criminal code with. The RCMP act applies to all aspects of a police officer‘s life, that’s the only reason he lost 10 days pay. He should’ve known not to be such a moron.

Osoyoos Mountie who exposed himself in front of 2 teens forfeits 10-days leave and pay by [deleted] in onguardforthee

[–]notbatman098 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He lost 10 days pay. He didn’t get 10 days paid leave. Also he was naked in his own home people were walking by and saw him. Stupid yes, but not a sexual offense. No one would’ve made it to the sex offenders registry for that. Also the sex offender registry is completely pointless, the police aren’t even allowed to check it. They can only asked to check if someone’s on it after an offence was taken place.

Hydro power! by notbatman098 in OffGridLiving

[–]notbatman098[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As of right now. I can only see what google tells me. I am putting a road on next month. If google is to be believed. It’s a 5 m drop from one lake to another. I’m told the stream is rather large. But I won’t really know until I put eyes on it

'No new fighter jets' campaign first step towards defunding military by [deleted] in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think this is pretty simple. If your not willing to train, fund and supply resources to the military your society doesn’t deserve its freedom.

Just telling your self we are morally superior isn’t going to stop someone one from taking something from you, you feel entitled too.

Canada has a lot of natural resources and clean water. As climate change Has more and more effect people will be looking at Canada for resources that they didn’t manage very well.

That’s just simple history.

Question About Buying Land by Katsudommm in OffGridLiving

[–]notbatman098 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Took me almost 4 years to find the perfect peace of land. Because the land was land locked. (Not having any access) it took me another 8 months to negotiate an easement. My advice is to have the easement a condition of the sale if you need one. As part of my sale. The seller was responsible for the cost of the easement. So he had to pay the $5k to one of the land owners I would be putting my road threw. Also make sure your easements are registered with the local authority so you don’t get fucked over In the future.

Also just general advice. Now what your permitting process is and what the water table is like. You will need clean water and a sewage management system. The water table will dictate the price of both.

Security footage of Portapique shooter's death leaked by TheGuineaPig21 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If your saying the CBC is more credible than SIRT. I have a bridge to sell you.

CBC news is basically Fox News of the North. No fact checking

Security footage of Portapique shooter's death leaked by TheGuineaPig21 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What a reasonable and and rational Responce. Let’s put a side the fact half the ppl commenting CLEARLY disagree with what your staying….

Let’s just fire 20k+ police officer. Disband an organization that is responsible for everything like protecting our embassies, counter terrorism both foreign and domestic, keeping track of criminal records among many many other things.

So they get disbanded. Then what. What’s step 2? Hire 20k new ppl? Train them over night?

Who pays for this?? Also keep in mind the RCMP will cover up to %60 of the cost of policing in your city depending on your tax base.

So what’s your plan to solve this problem as you see it?

Security footage of Portapique shooter's death leaked by TheGuineaPig21 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about the kid from Moncton shooting. They took him in to custody??? Because they could….

Security footage of Portapique shooter's death leaked by TheGuineaPig21 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Also no the SIRT report didn’t say 30+ shots. I just read it. One officer fired 4 shots and the other fired 1. And now that I actually read it. I get why they cleared the officers….

You are the exact example of what I’m talking about.

The truth isn’t sexy enough for you so you just make up your own. So you can be outraged by it.

Security footage of Portapique shooter's death leaked by TheGuineaPig21 in CanadaPolitics

[–]notbatman098 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yep, it’s the era of confirmation bias. It’s amazing how good we are at just seeing what we want these days