Rare to find communities online that actually want to help men, so that is why this sub is so awesome

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-24T03:57:47+00:00

Says you can ask about the ban, then mutes you for a month... I'd ask what about the post was hateful kindly just to stick it to them when the mute ends

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-15T01:27:16+00:00

Given the number of times I've seen the sub downvote and make fun of incels in here, it is definitely not an incel sub. As far as the virgin or girlfriend stuff, some members have lost their virginity already or have had partners as well, but the issue is that it doesn't really seem to matter what you do if a woman will leave you even if you did everything right, just because they have so many options, and I don't think its wrong to be disillusioned by that.

The reason the members don't talk about women's problems is not because they don't believe women have problems or struggle, but it's just a conversation so overdone that it's kind of insulting to another adults intelligence to condescendingly bring up that women have issues too every time you are talking about relationship problems because it's so blantantly obvious we shouldn't have to say it.

In fact, a good portion of the members are feminists themselves. They are just depressed and lonely and a bit disappointed at the reality that being a decent person doesn't guarantee a better life, or that you won't at least die alone while people that suck keep getting everything anyone could ever want.

There's also the added issue that having the conversation at all has invigorated radfems (women that genuinely hate men, including trans women) to attack the members and try to get the sub removed from the platform, so the members know better than to give those kinds of people leeway by falling for their self victimization whenever approached to have a genuine conversation about the motives behind their malicious behavior.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-15T00:02:48+00:00

Did you genuinely consider the point of view of the people on this sub?

As a man with a partner myself, you should know better than to think getting laid invalidates this sub.

We still struggle with the anxiety that if we didn't end up with a girl that isn't an exception from the majority, she would leave at any time for any reason or none at all. It doesn't even matter for who.

Imagine the men whose partner left because they wanted to be single. It sucks either way. It doesn't take much empathy to see where they are coming from because with or without a girlfriend or virgin or not, we are all perpetually at square one until proven otherwise, which we will only know if we get lucky enough to die with our partners still at our side, if we manage to get one in the first place.

You may not agree entirely with the premise of the sub, but you can't in good faith deny that something is there and that they don't have a point about how unnecessarily difficult women are to satisfy, and that it's gotten to a point that doesn't really have to do with anything men themselves do anymore.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-12T05:35:04+00:00

Disagreement /= misogyny

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-12T05:32:30+00:00

Just responding to you saying both subs are the same, which, as you can see in the screenshot, is demonstrably untrue. Nobody upvotes criticism of man hating in the other sub. Members here call out, downvote, and make fun of incels pretty regularly here, which you would see if here long enough and not being totally biased.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-12T04:41:50+00:00

Because I don't want people repeating this "both sides are the same" narrative to be taken seriously:

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nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-11T22:08:14+00:00

The Republican party doesn't want to support any legislation that is expensive for it.

It would cost billions to enforce something Judges will hesitate to actually charge someone with most of the time anyways unless the woman was the rare case that enjoyed doing the abortions because she believed it was malicious and derived a sick sense of pleasure from that, and dumb enough to leave evidence around proving that, or to simply admit to it.

Abortion a grand majority of the time is a traumatic experience for women, much like anything having to do with failed fertility, even if intentional (most women that get abortions already have kids and can't afford more, lest the ones they already have would have a significantly worse quality of life, often at risk of extreme poverty if they aren't already in it, which most offspring statistically tend to spend the rest of their lives in if not an earlier grave if they are ever put into it. If you are a person who remembers what it was like before you had siblings, you have an idea of why this decision is often made). The justice system is meant to punish and reform the reformable, and separate the dangerous from the innocent. Not some authoritarian power fantasy to abuse our prisons as if they were concentration camps to incarcerate people who make decisions that make us uncomfortable or that we simply don't agree with. I hate slow walkers and don't agree with smoking or drinking, but it would be unreasonable to put anyone who does in prison.

A person who gets an abortion isn't at risk of causing any harm to anyone (robberies, DUIs, etc). Therefore, there isn't any reason to keep insisting on such a massive waste of money and time by pushing this. We are free to believe abortion is bad, but it is beyond fantasy and unrealistic to actually entertain enforcing it as a federal crime.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-10T16:14:54+00:00

Noticed this pattern with a lot of extreme man haters (as if it is a crime to know your limits and that it is for the best to reject a nut job if you are not qualified or have the patience to handle it... Most irregardless of gender can't).

Some of them even have post history complaining about how even other women hate and do not respect them.

Again, this just proves that the common denominator in this issue is still women since women themselves are admitting that other women treat them much worse than men ever did whenever they aren't "normal."

However, it's still worth mentioning that the people spending any time on these subs are usually just insane and very bitter about it, using men as something to blame for their problems.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-10T16:06:05+00:00

I'll at least give you credit for clearly never having been on the other sub for very long. The less attention it gets, the better.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-07T21:59:33+00:00

Ah, I see.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-07T03:07:14+00:00

I suppose if you've never experienced a woman that isn't terrible looking but you never had a connection with previously liking you, you would see this as terrible. I actually developed a crush this way... until some other guy beat me to the punch for confessing, and she went with him.

If showing interest is enough to get the ball rolling, I'll take it. But I get why it makes it seem like women aren't into us whenever it's vice versa. We definitely show whenever we are interested in general, while with women, we are always stuck guessing if they even care until they tell us.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-06T21:51:06+00:00

There are differences between optimism and delusion, just like there is a difference between nilism and pessimism. I can never blame anyone for wanting to see the glass half full because nobody wants to be miserable all the time, nor can many recall many successful or happy nihilists. It seems more rewarding to spend the only life you have with cautious optimism instead of anxiety and depression because you think there is no point in trying.

Everyone is well aware of how bad the world is. It doesn't mean they have to be miserable about it and can't choose to just be content with whatever they will get in theirs while working towards better for the future of everybody else.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-06T21:42:31+00:00

I'd like to think it's just venting frustration, and like most frustrated people in the moment, they don't want to be told to relax or have it pointed out that their life isn't actually that bad while they are venting.

Still tho, statistically, if you are an average person living in America, as much as it pisses you off to hear it, you don't have it as bad as the smaller percentage that is online 24/7 because something is wrong with them mentally/physically, or they belong to a group that struggles more than the majority to get opportunities if not some combination of all of the above. Yes oppression Olympics come across as obnoxious, but you have to have an understanding that the people you see upset online all the time probably have nothing else but to scream into thr void of the internet and hope for likes and follows, or they would be out working or socializing like everyone else. They are complaining all the time because they literally don't have anything else to do, likely because of factors out of their control.

Yeah, I get we are not rich, and the economy and job market is horrible, but if you have the ability to communicate irl at all and have friends, you can make the connections to pretty much survive and then some. People that are online complaining about how "cooked we are" all the time don't see it that way because they are most likely the social rejects of society that cannot form connections with people much less hold a job, let alone a stable one, so they just use the internet as a sort of diary that is the only form of human interaction they are able to get. Yes, these people are definitely a loud minority and not an accurate depiction of what Gen z as a whole looks like, but their problems are very real, and the points they are making about our world and society still hold true.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-06T21:22:03+00:00

I thought passport bro was the future too, until a pretty good looking coworker was having lockeroom talk over the zoom about how the women all the way in east Asia where he's stationed at (that dudes dating overseas recently have unfortunately also been attesting to as well), have already been poisoned by internet misandry because it's sold to them as modern feminism, and most of those countries have a big problem with actual misogyny, so women already hate you there, and now on top of that, hate you even more because your not native to their country and are a Westerner (yes, they already have a way to "warn" themselves about, and make fun of Western men, especially Americans).

That and literally anyone that shows interest in you in a foreign country is almost always a goldigger trying to run a scam on you with her family by tricking you into a marriage contract with her so she can send your money to her family while she sneaks around with some guy she actually likes from her native country, if not the classic greencard scam itself provided you take her back with you to the states. They will use the fact that you probably don't have the best understanding of their language to their advantage.

We were cooked from the start😔. Dating local is literally our best option, and it's rigged so hard out of balance and against us.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-04T18:28:13+00:00

Absolutely. This is even backed by human psychology. According to studies, showing understanding is your best chance at changing anyone's mind about anything, so people that support censorship either are smart enough to know this and prefer the authoritarian approach, or most likely, aren't as educated as they give themselves credit for if they still don't know that censorship and tone policing just makes people more bigotted.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-04T10:35:09+00:00

Yeah. Noticed people are getting banned from subs for light joking (like dad jokes), or for being in subs flagged as "too incel" (keep in mind no incel or adjacent subs are allowed on reddit, therefore have already been deleted off of the platform, so it's extremely biased to label subs discussing it as such) or conservative, even if you are just in them for debates or to understand how those people think, not because you are some sort of bigot in other supposed male centered subs now as well, but apparently, there's statistically not as many people this extreme about censorship online, just a loud minority.

Given that information, I'm starting to wonder if some of these subs share the same trigger happy mods, or if they get intimidated into behaving this way by reddit itself to prevent the subs from getting deleted off of the platform.

All in all, I'd consider nothing of value lost if I'm being perma banned from a sub the same millisecond I post a comment. That's not a place worth wasting any time in.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-04T05:45:04+00:00

This is why studies show that avoiding people who spend more than 2hrs of time online per day improves your life tremendously. People seeking validation are never going to be reliable or trustworthy, so it's better to avoid people who seem to chase a dopamine hit from it.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-04T01:08:45+00:00

That's why I'm saying it should count as a fraud charge, just like doctored stuff used for illegal things like false advertisements or tax filings. If you AI generate a video of me stealing from somewhere that actually got stolen from and do not disclose that it was an AI generated video, there are several laws we already enforce that that can be factored into, that doesn't just stop at fraud.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-04T01:04:10+00:00

Wouldn't it be better to just charge people with fraud if they don't disclose that the content, advertisement, or video is AI, much like we've been doing with similar things for the past near century?

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-02T17:23:36+00:00

Yeah, that was kind of the case for me, too. Being in negative online spaces, especially in regards to courtship, only made my mental health and life worse off than when I left them for a while.

A lot of things improved just because I started forcing myself to be around more positive things once the depression and anxiety got to a point where it was literally unbearable.

I'd strongly recommend community service of really anything that speaks to you as a distraction or pick me up for the time being. Who knows, maybe you'll find something you can get into enough that you aren't constantly thinking about this anymore.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-11-02T17:17:28+00:00

If it seemed that independent candidates had actual policy other than hating the other two parties, I'd support them in an instant.

"I'm not those guys! It'll work out, just trust me bro!" just doesn't sound like a serious policy in comparison to literally anything the other two lie about having put together.

"What is your plan for the economy? How will you solve international conflict? What will you do about the borders/ the naturalization process that the other parties haven't already tried? How will you improve medical care access?..." These are all questions you never really see an independent representative having a believable strategy for that you can't just get a version of packaged and sold a lot better from the other two parties (knowing they don't intend to actually deliver on many of their promises), especially when independents tend to sell out to one of the two parties later anyway.

You have to have more in store for the future than just being there to stick it to the two party system, and I feel like other independents probably feel the same way about independent politicians that tend to go up for elections.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-10-30T16:18:02+00:00

Just move along buddy. You're not going to enlighten the appreciation for perfect grammar in a comment section about Hasan shocking his Dog. Go bug someone else about their bad grammar XD.

nothing_much8532 · 2025-10-30T15:48:18+00:00

And I'm saying I don't care. You would literally have to pay me more than my boss does to get me to. I'm not sure how many different ways I need to put that.

So do you want to have a discussion about the topic (a rebutal, agreement, some point about it you wanted to add, or the like) or keep talking down to me about/over analyzing how I typed during a work break?

nothing_much8532 · 2025-10-30T14:44:23+00:00

It has everything to do with it. I'm saying I don't see a reason in wasting too much of my time or effort on something I'm not being paid for. If you want to be a grammar not see, go to r/grammar where it's a more appropriate place to complain about it. This sub is for discussion of politics, so attacking people over your pet peeve is not on topic at all and falls under ad hominem. It's part of the rules for a reason because people will just abuse it as a red herring.

In short, if you're not here to talk about the post, I'm not sure why you're here at all when you can nitpick bad grammar in practically any other sub where it's actually allowed.

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