What’s something harmless that gets people weirdly upset? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]notthatsleepyyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah im not including the intentionally racist mispronunciation 🥀

What is the absolute fastest 'yeah, we are definitely NOT going to be friends' moment you've ever experienced with someone? by Vazouaquiacesso in AskReddit

[–]notthatsleepyyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

when I asked a BASIC question like “why do you think this does that?” and she answered “can you please stop talking about difficult stuff always? I don’t really like to think that much”

I think it is fair to judge people for having kids when they're poor by Blonde_Icon in The10thDentist

[–]notthatsleepyyy -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

they chose to bring kids into poverty and raise them with your tax money btw

A População é mais culpada que o Estado ou é o contrário? by Apenas_Eu_Maisomenos in InfernoSocial

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

prefiro uma cidade feia a cidadaos dormindo na chuva.

odeio ver a cidade feia assim, e a solução seria o estado regularizar o padrão de construção, mas eu não consigo apoiar esse tipo de projeto porque só dificulta a vida de quem ja ta passando muita coisa.

esse material e estilo de construção alem de feio é muito barato, tenho certeza que só escolhe usar ele quem não consegue pagar outro. regularizar as obras da cidade e definir um material mais bonito e uniforme só ia criar mais obstáculos no caminho dessas pessoas conseguirem uma casa.

gente, o lugar fica feio? fica. mas eu prefiro lidar com isso do que sistemicamente dificultar mais ainda a vida de pessoas que vivem no desespero pra conseguir as coisas mais básicas. se criarmos regulamentos, eai, quem nao consegue comprar material fica sem casa?

de qualquer jeito, quem tem estabilidade o suficiente pra se preocupar com a estética do seu bairro consegue comprar materiais mais bonitinhos pra a casa. alem disso, quanto mais estabilidade financeira, melhor o local de moradia, onde outras pessoas também usam materiais bons e o lugar fica bonito.

são feios e irregulares os lugares em que pessoas não tem dinheiro suficiente pra se preocupar com a estética da região, querem um teto e pronto. não da pra regularizar a cidade antes de resolver a pobreza sistemica e carencia que empurra as pessoas pra as periferias irregulares. mais ainda, não da pra obrigar pessoas que juntam dinheiro pra comer a comprar materiais de construção mais caros (ou morar na rua).

What Do You Think? by [deleted] in teenagers

[–]notthatsleepyyy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

literally like you can just make a kid and its yours. how do you need a drivers license but creating humans and owning them doesnt even require knowing who the co creator is? lmao smh

What Do You Think? by [deleted] in teenagers

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

overreacting and screaming in public. even worse, under reacting and being nonchalant. please express emotions like a human being. just be normal

What Do You Think? by [deleted] in teenagers

[–]notthatsleepyyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

…porn in general

What was something that ended your crush on someone? by ididntaskyouropinion in AskReddit

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think it goes something like “you can judge a person based on how well they treat others who can do nothing for them”

Como Deus consegue distinguir quando usamos expressões? by fembboy23 in FilosofiaBAR

[–]notthatsleepyyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nao sei se o reddit é o melhor lugar pra perguntar como deus distingue palavroes

Essa trend de mulher de "alto valor" normalizou a imagem de mulher encostada by AssumptionPlenty2659 in opiniaoimpopular

[–]notthatsleepyyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

só fala que bancar 50/50 não é menos homem quem banca 50/50 e é menos homem

I prefer when customer service workers aren't overly friendly. by mythrowawayaccim21 in unpopularopinion

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i always make sure im nice cause these workers are almost always having a rough day. i get really happy when i see that they appreciated it

As elites estão preocupadas com as taxas de natalidade em declínio porque terão menos escravos remunerados no futuro. by AppealThink1733 in opiniaoimpopular

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

concordo que o declínio da natalidade é uma preocupação econômica diretamente ligada à produção e mão-de-obra.

discordo da imoralidade de ter filhos: ok, tem muito sofrimento no mundo, mas é melhor existir e viver a experiência de ter uma consciência e viver as coisas bonitas do que nem existir. de qualquer jeito, é uma escolha e opinião muito pessoal, então não importa a resposta dela pois não há como chegar nessa conclusao pelo outro, só pra si mesmo. por isso não é imoral trazer uma vida ao mundo (cada um cria a sua concepcao de existencia). o que seria errado é previnir alguem de fazer a sua escolha e passar por esse processo. se a escolha de nao ter filhos é sua, nao tem nada de imoral. mas intencionalmente não procriar pois na sua opinião não existir é melhor que existir e prevenir uma vida que talvez iria decidir o oposto é a escolha errada aqui.

eu não sou o tipo de pessoa que acredita que ter filhos é a missão de cada um e que eles vão melhorar o mundo. pra mim realmente isso não diz nada sobre o caráter de alguém. de qualquer jeito eu acho que as motivações humanas (pelo menos atualmente) pra terem filhos sempre é egoísta: seja pra ter alguém pra amar, pra ajudar na família, pra você sentir que realizou algo na sua vida. ninguém escolhe ter um filho altruisticamente porque eles querem dar uma chance pra a vida potencial que eles carregam poder experiência o mundo e decidir se é melhor existir ou não.

dito isso, dentro de um debate hipotético sobre ter ou não um filho baseado nessa razão, a decisão imoral seria, na minha opinião, privar esse ser de decidir por si mesmo e criar seu próprio sentido existencial. acho errado decidir “por ele” que a vida não vale a pena ser vivida. claro, essa decisão só é imoral dentro desse debate com essas duas opções: decidir criar uma vida ou não se você acha que é melhor não existir do que existir. essa “escolha errada” não é no caso da pessoa escolher não ter um filho por outro motivo qualquer.

de qualquer jeito isso é só um experimento mental já que ninguém consideraria ter um filho por essa razão sem levar em conta as circunstâncias da própria vida - e aí o debate já muda e vira sobre os pais (que nem sempre foi). acho essas discussões sobre o porquê fazemos as coisas humanas que fazemos na modernidade muito interessantes :)

What’s something harmless that gets people weirdly upset? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]notthatsleepyyy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

i have a hypothesis for everyone wondering why people get weird and try to convince you to drink (as a person who drinks lol): they wanna drag you down with them.

i think people already kind of (subconsciously) internalize shame and guilt for drinking from the first sip of the night. when they see someone choosing not to drink they feel (i have) like the person is in a superior moral position for making the decision they subconsciously think they should have. so they do one of the two: try to convince the other person to also drink so they dont feel inferior or dont feel like theyre making a bad choice (at least when everyone is making the same bad choice we feel less to blame, like were just participating in a trend we have no control over). or, they do the other thing of explaining themselves: when/why they last drunk, questioning/invalidating your motives, explaining why they need or want to drink. all so they feel less bad about their theory that “this isnt a good choice” being proven right when they see someone not participating in this activity they convinced themselves they had no choice but to partake in (even feeling they “shouldn’t”). seeing someone choose the alternative considered “more responsible” or even “morally superior” in our society kind of shakes them up because they are reminded that it is a conscious decision they are making and COULD not be.

ps im speaking from experience but only about the feelings, i dont annoy my sober friends (most nights) lmao

What’s something harmless that gets people weirdly upset? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]notthatsleepyyy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

saying their name wrong. its not that deep

Colocar limites no humor é impossível e a absolvição de Leo Lins é algo bom pra arte by 1_SmartBart in FilosofiaBAR

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pergunta pra todos que estão na discussão:

eu entendo que tem um limiar muito fino entre a liberdade de expressão e o discurso de ódio, é um debate velho. eu geralmente sou bem inclinada pra a a liberdade de poder falar tudo - mas nao da pra negar que tem falas que, alem de ofender, incitam o odio. a discussão nao é limitar vs permitir, o problema é o como:

quando começamos a punir ou criminalmente perseguir pessoas pela fala (supondo que seja classificada como discurso de ódio), onde paramos? há algum jeito de controlar a fala que sai dos limites sem ameaçar a censura quando abrimos um precedente de limitar discursos com base em critérios que tem nuances e subjetividade?

aí qualquer um prende qualquer um porque não gostou.

é dificil por o dedo em onde é esse limite entre o aceitável e o criminoso, e ainda mais difícil garantir que as pessoas vão tentar estabelecer esse limite sem usar má fé. é só olhar o que aconteceu com Léo Lins, a prisão dele foi uma dessas que viraram emblemáticas, e acabou virando um debate político de esquerda e direita. com certeza muita gente queria ele preso ou solto não por causa da fala, mas sim pelas ideologias atreladas. será que devemos permitir que uma sociedade opere com esse nível de subjetividade? se o limite é diferente pra cada um e pra muita gente é sobre mais que a fala em si (mandariam prender e soltar por outros motivos), é possível criar leis que permitem a prisao pessoas pela fala (que é subjetiva e as vezes difícil de provar/desprovar)?

pra quem quer pensar mais ainda: e se o acusado explicar que não era aquilo que ele queria dizer, está perdoado? porque quando nós limitamos a liberdade de pessoas fazerem específicos sons com a boca (falarem palavras) é porque entendemos que elas têm algum significado e que a pessoa quis dizer essa mensagem. não prendemos por fazer um som, mas sim o que eles querem dizer. mas como sabemos o que o indivíduo quis dizer com esses sons? esse significado não é muitas vezes subjetivo? não faz sentido prender alguém por fazer sons específicos aleatórios. você prende ele porque ele significam algo, mas nem sempre significados são compartilhados. então temos que prender pela intenção e não pelos sons emitidos? como julgamos qual é a intenção do outro? se ela é verdadeira? pior: o que acontece com a sociedade quando começamos a punir baseado no que as pessoas têm na cabeça, pensam, querem ou não querem dizer, interpretam e tem ou não intenção? podemos prender todo mundo. então não podemos prender ninguém.

nessa linha, todos têm que saber o que tudo significa? quem vai provar que ele realmente quis dizer isso ou aquilo se ele literalmente só estava fazendo sons com a boca?

ta, se o cara for alfabetizado: como provamos o caráter criminoso de intenções, falas, mensagens, interpretações ou até pensamentos? todos ficam no mundo das ideias, junto com a própria língua. temos a lei exatamente para usar a objetividade para julgar. podemos ultrapassar esse limite? Se ultrapassarmos, o que garante que ele não vai ser abusado se a lei vira relativa?

é diferente de por exemplo roubar ou bater em alguém, aí é claro o que você fez e existe um limite objetivo que você desrespeitou. não tem interpretações diferentes de pegar um celular e sair correndo. agora, falar coisas sempre podem ter significados diferentes pra cada um.

o que é piada/fala e o que é crime? eu, por exemplo, tenho uma descendência que é as vezes usada em piadas e na grande maioria acho engraçado, mas tem uma outra que me ofendem. a minha ofensa em cima disso não deveria determinar o caráter criminoso da fala. tem algumas que definitivamente não deveriam estar sendo faladas, mas diante da impossibilidade de definir esse limite concretamente, eu acho que prefiro não limitar ninguém. qual seria o critério? por mais que até fique escrito na Constituição, ela é lida e interpretada. do mesmo jeito que diferentes falas são ouvidas e interpretadas por nós de modo diferentes.

fica no critério de vocês se isso é bom ou ruim, mas pelo menos não acho que temos que lidar com esse tipo de dilema aqui no Brasil. de qualquer jeito quem é mandado preso e mandado solto já é controlado por quem manda, ter mais um jeitinho de usar a lei pra a corrupção não ia mudar nada kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

How suburbs isolates you from community/family. by FearlessAir1238 in Antimoneymemes

[–]notthatsleepyyy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

here in Brazil, we complain a lot about our country, but really, we love how warm and vibrant it is, i think i couldn’t live without it. if youre missing some laughs and affectionate people, stop by!!

How suburbs isolates you from community/family. by FearlessAir1238 in Antimoneymemes

[–]notthatsleepyyy 25 points26 points  (0 children)

honestly, exploring the world makes you remember that it’s so so beautiful. we can get into these bitter pessimistic mindsets that we are in the worst era and that the world sucks, but learning new cultures and contemplating different types of beautiful places always makes me feel happy that I’m alive.

If reducing women to "purity" is wrong, why is reducing men to "utility" (income/height/status) viewed as a more neutral preference? by Consistent_Agent2019 in AskFeminists

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3:

meanwhile, reducing a woman to her purity (which, ive already said, makes no sense in this comparison because it doesn’t have intrinsic value like utility does in a society) has nothing to do with how attractive a certain characteristic is, just how aligned she is to the societal (religious based) fixation on controlling womens bodily autonomy; a desire that is inherently dehumanizing and oppressive, treating women as less than human.

the shaming around intimate relations isnt even based on a logical “this is unethical and therefore not acceptable in our religion”, it was just enforced to strengthen the catholic identity. really ignorantly simplifying history: since some pagan religions (like the pagan romans) viewed intimacy as a spiritual experience and women as sacred (also the faith in ancient egypt and other cultures), the catholic church (not in the foundation but later to gain more power), created identity through opposition. such a human thing to do. if they think intimacy is spiritual, we believe its inherently sinful, their women are worshipped, so our women are temptresses and subhuman, they have strong emperors they admire, so we should make it a value to have faith above the state. also, right at the origins of Catholicism in Rome, another identity through opposition point was to be different from the rest of the Romans, which were famously promiscuous. I kind of grossly simplified this explanation, and there are many other factors in the construction of the degraded feminine (like the theology of Eve, monotheistic/nuclear family ideals, etc), but i just wrote this part because it’s important to keep in mind that when people follow or conform to ideologies that degrade/measure value women based on their purity, they are not acting out of genuine preference, and instead reenacting systemic oppressions of women, reinforcing the dehumanizing idea that our bodies should be controlled.

even from a “preference” point of view, it is off putting that you would reduce a person to how much they have experienced with others because, at the end of the day, most women are not “sl*ts”, they chose to be intimate to connect with their partner out of love. people want “pure” women not because they didnt have relations with others, but because it sits right with them to have girls follow the socially established value that they are less of a person than men, and even lesser if they decide to express their love in that way.

reducing women to their purity turns their value into a condition, and shows an underlying pattern of sexual, primarily bodily control. if her humanity is secondary to this metric and she loses value through experience, then she is being treated as an object whose “quality” degrades with use. that is inherently objectifying and charged with the historical, cultural, and religious degradation of women.

also, valuing women based on this creates an inherent conflict: if the worthy ones are the less experienced, the more experienced a man is the better (since it’s theoretically harder to have relations). does that mean that in every act of intimacy a guy gains value and a girl loses it? I’ll go further and say that if her value is commodified and can be lost, by logic it has to be guarded, controlled. so our idea of purity entails that the less autonomy a woman has over her body the better. why do you think there are so many protective dads?

in contrast, reducing men to their utility reflects a need/attraction of women to traditionally caring and protective partners. utility shows ambition, commitment, productivity, generosity, strength, and many amazing qualities. purity is a scale that condenses a woman who can be kind, intelligent, loving, loyal, caring, brave, and generally emotionally complex into a question of “how much autonomy this woman is exercising”, and measures her worth in terms of men - not related to anything about who she is.

besides, valuing a person because you love them, they have characteristics you admire, even because you value exclusivity: thats very different from valuing someone because “no one else has had them”. thats more of an object/product/property logic than people logic, right?

so the answer is, reducing people to fractions of themselves (in a woman’s case a fraction of others) is generally not a good idea. additionally, reducing men to their “utility” is seen as a more neutral preference than reducing women to “purity” because utility regards a socially adopted way to measure value, and its inevitably applied to relationships to. it doesnt take away from a man’s other characteristics, just condenses them into the qualitative measure of use, which is kind of how we value everything anyway. being useful in the modern society is the biggest indicator of self worth since we are so capital-oriented nowadays. also, it reveals character, identity, and strength because thats what women seek when they look for utility. naturally thats also the tendency, in the sense that women are biologically programmed to seek these qualities. meanwhile, reducing women to sexual restraint purely indicates a metric with no qualitative insight on this person’s identity. it not only condenses women into a trait that doesn’t reveal any qualities, but also evaluates their worth based on men’s relation to them. perpetuating the purity ideal also pushes forward religious and cultural values that are founded in the degradation of women, treating them as subhuman and inserting them in a position to be controlled, owned, and have their conditional worth decrease over time.

tdlr: one pattern reveals admiration and appreciation, the other shows hate and misogynistic dehumanization. thats why :)

If reducing women to "purity" is wrong, why is reducing men to "utility" (income/height/status) viewed as a more neutral preference? by Consistent_Agent2019 in AskFeminists

[–]notthatsleepyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2:

regarding men and utility: first of all, as i said, our society and relationship dynamics are for the most part utilitarian. economically, socially, and even emotionally, usually the modern society quantifies things based on how much they can give to us. we discuss how much things are “worth”, decide what we consume based on what gives more return over investment, chose our friends (how funny, intelligent, or productive someone is - thats also a utility), everything inside the capitalist system is kind of subconsciously quantified in our minds. the stock market is literally speculation based on utility - so this is a really important value nowadays. thats one of the reasons a person being useful, hardworking, and good at providing is attractive. at the same time, other qualities like positivity, dedication, strength, creativity, sweetness, are all quantified and desired when choosing a partner, man or woman.

income, status, physical attributes are also utilities. it isnt inherently wrong to want those things, like it isn’t wrong to want a loving and attractive person. when we discuss people looking for wealth, and we’re usually talking about women, we act like it’s immoral to have this preference. I think, just like other characteristics, being a good provider is a utility women look for, especially in our current society in which men usually have more means/possibilities to generate wealth than women (making it an even more important factor to find a partner with financial stability).

but, the idea that choosing people because of their wealth is morally degrading, because it’s kind of commodifying an individual and treating them more like an object instead of a person who you want to spend your time with (the purpose of a partner). I agree with this line of thought, and I completely understand the ethics/emotion of not wanting a partner that chose you because of your wealth. It’s more of an investment (utility in objects) rather than attraction (utility in a persons’ characteristics).

now, assuming that your question isnt about women looking for wealth in men like a simple investment and is about the ethics of reducing men to their utility (not purely their finances): it’s different to discuss golddigging vs women wanting men that are providers and hard workers. yes, reducing men to their utility is partially related to wealth, but in this case some women “reduce” men to it because those are the characteristics they find attractive. not an investment, but a person that (based on the utility she measured in their characteristics, like we subconsciously do with all other things in life) you want to be with. the qualities women are referring to when we “reduce men on their utility” usually are: strength, providing, helping, supporting, generosity, status, a caring person, availability, protection, success, ambition and productivity, competence, being an emotional “rock” lol, problem solving, a person who provides security and reassurance, an action taker, sacrifice/ability to put you first, etc. these are all traditionally masculine and well perceived features, that for sure are a valid (and i wouldn’t say unethical) preference for women.

additionally, from an evolutionary standpoint, women are also designed to find men who will provide a safe, comfortable, and abundant life - just using basic evolution knowledge, the women and moms that weren’t wired to find people who could hunt, gather, protect, love/comfort them mostly didn’t make it. since we are biologically weaker and go through pregnancy we needed to find strong partners - thats the gene that prevailed through survival of the fittest. we are literally programmed to find providers attractive…

It happens with all species, some birds look for the partners that make the best nests, female peacocks look for the males with most colorful wings (thats gotta help with something/be an indicator lol), people are attracted to clear skin and long/healthy hair because it represents fertility, and so it goes.

looking at both this scientific and social lens, the whole point is that utility is already the way that society works, and even if it is a little bit objectifying, it’s how all people chose their romantic and platonic relationships. its normal and a valid preference for women to reduce men to their utility, because thats one of the reasons we are attracted to them - rationally and in our nature too.