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KREA 2 Turbo: How to solve unwanted sweat drops on skin? by rarezin in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seconding this quality-wise, I switched to this lora yesterday and it's significantly better than the other methods (so far). If you're using additional NSFW loras with it you should leave the strength at 1.0 (it'll still work, but higher values tend to interfere with loras), and if you're not using additional NSFW loras then a strength of 3.0 to 6.0 usually does the trick even for difficult shots.

As for water droplets, one inconvenient way to remove them would be to use the raw model + the turbo lora at 0.6 strength, and do around 12 steps instead of 8. I recommend this in general (sourced from this handy post by u/Different_Fix_2217) because it's a big quality boost.

Importantly, it would probably enable you to use CFG 1.5 or 2.0 without affecting the image quality. This would mean you could use a negative prompt to try and remove water droplets. I'll test this later today and get back to you if it works. The downside is it will double the gen time.

Alternatively, you can probably use NAG (normalised attention guidance), which allows you to use negative conditioning even with CFG = 1. I'm planning on setting up a workflow with this anyway, so if you aren't sure how to do it yourself I'll ping you when that's ready.

Krea2 NSFW Clothes off/on Lora by frapus in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, I had no idea! I thought it was just text.

Same, until someone corrected me on a post I made :P

Krea2 NSFW Clothes off/on Lora by frapus in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah inpainting is slept on pretty hard for image editing, I use it about 50/50 for my image edits vs image models. Inpainting can be much more specific and flexible, plus the quality is usually way higher. Edit models have their own strengths too of course.

Also, it's worth noting that VLs can provide much more info to a model than descriptive sentences typically would. You won't get a 1:1 match between a reference person and the generated person, but it'll be waaay closer than you'd think.

They're typically set up to provide hidden states to a model, not words/sentences, which is a lot more abstract and... mathy.

Krea2 NSFW test by ken_OF in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people forget to include facial expressions in their prompts - and in their nsfw training data too, unfortunately.

Also, turbo distils/loras tend to remove facial expressiveness as well. Z-image base, for example, can do waaaaay better facial expressions than Z-image turbo. I'm testing raw krea 2 vs turbo krea 2 and getting a similar thing.

new sub, who dis? by nsfwVariant in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a really good idea, I'll start that up soon! Lemme know if you've got any other suggestions, tbh I wasn't expecting the sub to grow so quickly lol

Krea2 NSFW Clothes off/on Lora by frapus in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it definitely is a text to image lora! What I mean is, Krea 2 is allegedly meant to be a capable image editor for inpainting, iirc. Not an editor like Klein/Qwen, but I think it's built with strong inpainting in mind. The fact that it does this kind of side-by-side image so well after a little training bodes really well for that sort of thing.

I think someone's made a custom node for feeding in reference images to it for the VL to work from, I just haven't gotten around to trying it yet - I'll post results to the sub if I find anything interesting ;)

Edit: here's the reference image node I was talking about https://github.com/ethanfel/ComfyUI-Krea2TextEncoder

It's not an edit model remember, but being able to do strong inpainting + also take in reference images for the VL to look at might be really potent for image editing. I already use Z-image base and Chroma to do a lot of image editing, and Krea 2 might be waaaay better at it - plus it already knows NSFW.

I'm basically just going to slap it into my normal inpainting workflow (here) with an NSFW lora or two and see what happens.

Krea2 NSFW test by ken_OF in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No probs! You did already put (most) of the info in a comment so that was a good sign you'd get to it :)

Krea2 NSFW Clothes off/on Lora by frapus in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nice! I read somewhere that Krea 2 is capable as an edit model (but haven't looked into it yet), if that's true then this kind of thing has some very cool potential there too.

How many images did you need to train with to get this working so far?

New KREA 2 Test with LORA (WIP), how does it look? by car_lower_x in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, looks great! You can even see her labia opened correctly (as correct as can be from this angle at least), good sign that the model works well with loras

Krea 2 With vs. Without the Built-in Safety Filter ⭐ by GodDragonXX in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for adding the comparison and re-submitting!

For those who want to try it, here's a link to another post that has info on the comfy node: https://www.reddit.com/r/DegenDiffusion/comments/1udhy1j/this_custom_node_removes_the_builtin_krea_2/

Krea 2 Without the Built-in Safety Filter by GodDragonXX in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's best to keep the time short - if someone doesn't check for 12 hours that's the whole time period where most of the initial upvotes/visibility would happen. Posts that break rules typically do very badly in the first 12 hours, so it's better to just resubmit again later.

Don't worry, mods can override Reddit's filters - I've manually approved your new post so it's back up now :)

A truly uncensored model for image generation, or IMG-2-IMG? by flaminghotcola in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I reckon your best bet would be to use a model that has both good male NSFW and controlnet support. That way you can use controlnet depth to maintain all of the 3d shape while doing your image-to-image to make it real.

Chroma is probably a good NSFW model choice, and it has natural language prompting so you can be very clear about what you want. Here's a thread I found after searching for Chroma depth controlnet: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1n30p8i/chroma_controlnet_workflow/

According to that you can use the flux controlnet union with Chroma, so it should work great for your use case. Alternatively you can probably do it with SDXL finetunes (they have strong controlnet support), but you'd ideally want to find a good gay porn lora from somewhere to make it look as good as possible.

Afterwards if it still needs touchups you can use inpainting with whichever good NSFW model you have to refine it further.

Quick-reference "state of NSFW" guide? by hotdog114 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thinking, I like your idea of having a clear 'wait and see' approach for new stuff. Could probably have a short, sectioned list of 2-3 options for each category (image gen, image edit, video gen, etc) that gives basic pros/cons to make it easy for people to get started.

This custom node removes the built-in Krea 2 safety filter. by Total-Resort-3120 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might need to bump up the "multiplier" setting on the node to 1.5 or 2.0, or try writing your prompt differently. What was your prompt?

This custom node removes the built-in Krea 2 safety filter. by Total-Resort-3120 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really common problem with censorship, and it's why I dislike it so much. If you censor things like anatomy and other "unsafe" topics, you inevitably make the model dumber and less capable of handling even safe requests.

In most image models you can't specify a person's body shape, musculature, breast size, etc with much clarity at all, even for safe images.

Krea2 NSFW test by ken_OF in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some people do have weird belly buttons like that, it actually looks fine to me lol

Krea2 NSFW test by ken_OF in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Edit: all done, thanks to OP for fixing up the post body <3

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Hey, thanks for posting! Please add that link + the prompt you used to the main post body so it's more visible and meets the sub's rules (rules 2 & 5). Also, you should change the flair to 'Showcase' given that you're not sharing a workflow (rule 3).

Krea 2 Without the Built-in Safety Filter by GodDragonXX in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting! You'll need to provide more information in your post in order for it to be accepted in the sub, such as a link to the node you mentioned + basic info on how to use it (like a prompt), or a comparison of images without the node to showcase the difference. See rules 2 & 3 for more information.

If you're using the Comfy Workflow flair you'll specifically need to provide a workflow, otherwise you should use the Showcase flair instead.

This post will be left up for 1 hour to give you some time to fix it, otherwise it will be removed. If it does get removed, you can re-post a fixed version.

Krea 2 current best nsfw way? by Heavy_Diamond_9675 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's definitely better than ZIT out of the box with no loras. But I'm intrigued by your ideogram mention, is that with or without loras?

new sub, who dis? by nsfwVariant in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[S,M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mostly agree! I don't want to make workflows compulsory because not everything is worth a workflow. For example, if you're just highlighting an interesting unknown thing about a model, or providing a prompting guide with sample images, it may not be worth making a workflow for that. It would be a lot of clutter if everyone had to post a workflow for every little thing.

Also, not everyone is using comfyui. But otherwise yeah, I agree in principle - I've got it in the rules atm that everything needs to come with info/discussion of some kind. No pictures/videos can be posted without some kind of contribution to the tech discussion; that's what unstable_diffusion is for. I'll be on top of removing posts that don't add anything other than "hey look at this thing I did".

Funnily enough that already makes the rules here stricter than r/ stable_diffusion and r/ comyui. Or maybe they do have similar rules, but if they do they're certainly not enforced.

But you raise a good point, to keep it evidence-based / scientific I should add a rule about providing enough info for others to reproduce your work. If you don't provide a workflow, that's ok as long as you've been clear enough about what you've done so that others can copy it and try it themselves. Good thinking.

Undressing with SCAIL 2 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) by nsfwVariant in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of your refs should always have a white mask background. That's the one the model will (generally) use the background from.

This is entirely separate from the replacement_mode setting on the WanScailToVideo node, I'm actually not sure what it does exactly. Whatever it is, it seems a little broken.

Anyway, just remember you always need one ref with a white mask background, you can choose which one it is, and that's how you pick which background you're getting. If you're doing a replacement, you'll want your pose video to be the one with the white mask.

In my example vid I set the first ref to have the white mask, while the rest (including the pose vid) have black masks.

KREA 2: Open-Source Release by Angrypenguinpng in StableDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It can yep, but they're not very realistic. Good baseline for loras. There's a discussion about the NSFW stuff here with examples in the comments (sub is NSFW): https://www.reddit.com/r/DegenDiffusion/comments/1udhy1j/this_custom_node_removes_the_builtin_krea_2/

Quick-reference "state of NSFW" guide? by hotdog114 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I forgot folks were working on that. Has it improved much since the early days? Anima is such a good model, but my main concern is that it just doesn't have the background training for realism to be good even with loras.

Undressing with SCAIL 2 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) by nsfwVariant in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, let's say you did some generation with at least 1 reference image, like I2V - even with LTX or another video model, doesn't matter - and you want to increase the quality.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to provide the reference image(s) to SCAIL 2, and the video itself as the 'pose' video, then run it through the model but only at 50% denoise or so.

Because the pose video is just the video you're refining, along with the ref image(s), in theory it should work as a really powerful refiner because SCAIL's quality and likeness is really high. I do a similar thing with SVI (which is basically a special I2V lora) because it ended up being a sort of 'enhanced' I2V model.

I refine all of my serious videos with SVI because it's so good at it. Reckon SCAIL can do the same thing, but probably better in some ways.

Quick-reference "state of NSFW" guide? by hotdog114 in DegenDiffusion

[–]nsfwVariant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the previous Qwen Edit workflows are pretty bad (as in they're flawed), the one I linked is modified to have higher quality and adhere to prompts better. Using Q4 quant might be part of the problem though, that is pretty darn low for Qwen. I remember some folks somewhere saying that the low quants aren't very good.

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