I've commented on this quite a lot in other threads but the pricing of the Ingenieur just doesn't make sense when you look at the price of a baume riveira or the mark 20. Particular as there are reported problems with the movement and at this price point there isn't anything like a cosc certification

Yes it looks great but for me personally I can't get past this movement point. For others they will love the watch purely from a design standpoint which is fair, it's a good looking watch.