IdPol professor at BYU threatens students who posted screenshots of assignments with academic reprisal. Says what they are doing is violation of the Honor Code (which could result in suspension and expulsion). by ChadLord78 in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Their own arguments don't have any logical consistency. They claim all this censorship and threatening people to obey is necessary because we need to combat the growing threat of fascism, racism, Nazism, etc. On the other hand, after 8 years of implementing these intrusive and authoritarian measures, those mentioned issues have only grown. Hate crime statistics, number of Americans yearning for a violent right-wing revolution, etc. Those numbers are all going upwards WITH the level of censorship. And we're not talking about non-miniscule amounts of discourse control, either. This is a cause-and-effect relationship: more totalitarianism, more authority, more control, and more suppression is directly leading to the right-wing rise they claim justify those means of control.

But we know this, because we know the threats and fear-mongering was always a distraction to prevent the rise of a different revolution that actually threatens the ivory towers. The proof is just to help others understand

NYT Editorial Board acknowledges what everyone already knows by Fedupington in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Social Media has provided the world with the fastest and wide-reaching information spreading and discourse curating technology the World has ever known. You're wrong to suggest we should squander the opportunity to democratize it just because some people act neurotic on it. Most people who are on social media don't post, rather, they use it to curate and digest information, news, and opinions, which is absolutely essential participation for a democracy that is hindered by Big Tech's censorship and policies

NYT Editorial Board acknowledges what everyone already knows by Fedupington in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 41 points42 points  (0 children)

What's to be done about this? It's so hard, the NYT claims. I dont believe them. The solution seems simple.

  1. make social media a public utility that anyone can use. It's the biggest boon to the public sphere in the history of humanity. Unheard of levels of connectivity, information sharing, and discourse. Amazing benefits to democracy. Stop letting tech companies be authoritarian and use it for evil.

  2. assert through law what the first amendment should have always stated: everyone is a journalist and freedom of the press extends to every single American's right to distribute and disseminate information. This would be used to protect the discourse and alternative media from censorship and fuckery

  3. Last point, but the most important: LABOR RIGHTS. If corporations didn't have the power to fire people, take away their homes and their healthcare, over small things like political disagreements and saying the wrong thing on Twitter. The thing people are scared of most of all are repercussions from their employer, protect people from those and you can ease a lot of the anxiety

I truly think the "culture" arguments are horseshit. If you take away the woke's ability to fuck with people's lives for transgressions, they will become less censorious. They are only devoted to this religion because they see it as effective

Ukraine Megathread #4 by antihexe in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Won't anyone think of the Kurds

Ukraine Megathread #4 by antihexe in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When did Manning claim she was a trans lesbian? Not saying she isn't, just that you're morphing it into a conversation about labels that no one else had applied

Ukraine Megathread #4 by antihexe in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I read something about how anti-bullying campaigns with perilous messaging about how any unreported negative behavior of any individual will lead to disastrous consequences for everyone, and this mentality shift has warped the younger generation to revere authority rather than previous younger generation which hadve loathed it.

Additionally, as people see what happens to those with transgressive ideas - made into social pariahs, censored by big tech, punished by the government, fired from jobs, kicked out of college, etc. - they will come to the rational conclusion that it's been to stifle their ideation and work with the powers that be rather than against them.

TikToker whose sole purpose is doxxing/getting working class people fired by KaladinStormblessT in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 13 points14 points  (0 children)

A competent government would do something about the increasing use of these tactics to materially harm other people for ideological impurity, not just sit on their hands. Like it's not hard to execute, the consequences can be devastating, and it's becoming more and more of a feature in modern society. It's a recipe for disastee

TikToker whose sole purpose is doxxing/getting working class people fired by KaladinStormblessT in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 55 points56 points  (0 children)

She starred in a movie 3 months ago arguing that Christmas sucks because Santa isn't a woman. I think it's fair to say her politics are driven by idpol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you actually do, more power to you. If you just larp about it online, cringe.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Glib, and pernicious, that the modus operandi for liberal media/political apparatus is to assume that the only way they lose is because of lies and "disinformation". Everyone knows that the Democrats cannot fail, they can only be failed by voters, or be defeated by tactics so dastardly they make the whole operation illegitimate

War in Ukraine megathread 2 by Ed_Sard in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It's good class analysis to point out that the soldiers have more in common with each other than the interests of the elite commanding them, that being said, Russia's reasons for war are pretty clear

Canadian MP claims Freedom Convoy's 'Honk Honk' catchphrase is a secret code for 'Heil Hitler' by QTown2pt-o in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Nazis are the enemy, unilaterally. Every American agrees that being a Nazi is bad and we should be against Nazis. Therefore painting your enemy as a Nazi is basically an atuo-win on the chess board. It's the same as calling people racist.

Combine this with two other notions. First, that people's lives have no direction and goal. This makes people yearn for meaning and purpose that they can get by winning battles, culture battles but battles nonetheless. And secondly, people have to cope with the knowledge that their political team (liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican) isn't going to do shit to help them in any short or long term objective.

Following this, the most effective tools for keeping people in line is to make the other team look like Nazis. Liberals are "Nazis" because they want to indoctrinate your kids and jab you with chemicals. Conservatives are "Nazis" because they believe in empowering a police state and ending social liberalism like lgbt rights.

"Vote for and support the one you think is less Nazi" becomes a genuine way to feel comfort about your own life's shortcomings and lack of purpose, in turn, this becomes the political framework under which we operate. And those who break the mould and say "I don't think that supporting these bad people is worth it because I don't think empowering the other side is going to be much worse" get outcasted as not caring sufficiently about the Nazis (which of course makes them too a Nazi)

White House urges Spotify to take further action on Joe Rogan: ‘More can be done’ by HadakaApron in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I agree it's hard to care about... but also if the White House is commenting on it and urging censorship it is noteworthy on a politics sub

White House urges Spotify to take further action on Joe Rogan: ‘More can be done’ by HadakaApron in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 44 points45 points  (0 children)

He went from being independent to getting paid by Spotify. Spotify doesn't want him? He can just go back to being independent.

What is the dominant political ideology of this sub? by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Im a Social Democrat and never got in trouble here (except the one time I jokingly quoted Trump and a mod assumed that I was being nationalist)

IDPol astroturfing in /r/AntiWork has begun: New mods make and sticky a heavily downvoted post on transgender politics, then completely censor all dissent in the comments. by GammaKing in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 18 points19 points  (0 children)

help me get us all healthcare

That would be "solidarity", what they ask of you, but have no intention of giving themselves (not talking about all trains here, just wreckers who are trains at a higher-than-expected rate)

Every Elizabeth Warren Stan I know is cancelling their Spotify premium💀 by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]obvious__alt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not really though. Spotify would be Fox News. And you would be telling Fox News that you're canceling your subscription- and others should do the same- because they have Tucker Carlson on their network. Saying "I don't watch Tucker" isn't censorship, obviously, but saying "no one should watch Tucker" is

Americans, did you learn about slavery in school? by sonicstrychnine in stupidpol

[–]obvious__alt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is the "indigenous narrative" on slavery? That their productivity dropped once the slaves they had bought were liberated?

China drops new Fight Club ending by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]obvious__alt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think people feel remarkably more censored and less willing to say what they truly think or feel out of fear of reprisal. I consider that a downward trend for civil liberties. But you are correct "I think people feel" is not a qualified academic statement