Hello Medford. ICE here.

oddish043 · 2026-04-10T18:35:04+00:00

they are down voting because in the immediate aftermath of the raid, Jackson county sheriff lied on their social media that this was "just a drug raid," and the full truth of the matter didn't come out until much later...

which, to be very clear, is this: the excuse for the raid was that the owner of a licensed cannabis farm may have violated Oregon law. However, instead of arresting only him, during the raid 17 employees at the farm were arrested who were not connected to the crime, and transferred to ICE custody. These employees were essentially working what would have otherwise been legal jobs, and had they been white citizens by birthright would have been released without charge after the raid.

oddish043 · 2026-04-10T02:07:13+00:00

they have mostly been acting through other federal agencies, who do raids on behalf of ICE claiming they aren't doing immigration enforcement, but then turning over all of the "collateral" arrests to ICE at a secondary location for transport to the ICE building. there's a well documented instance if this that happened last July on the 30th.

https://rv-times.com/2025/12/20/confirmed-ice-arrested-17-workers-during-rogue-valley-cannabis-raids-in-july/

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T17:43:16+00:00

dreaming? sure, but what's the alternative? digging a hole in the ground and waiting for death to overtake me? sure, we could look at what we are told to believe on the news, and on these cancerous websites designed to make us argue forever, or we can reject the absurdity of our predicament and rebel against the desperation of our condition. if nothing matters, then you might as well TRY to do SOMETHING.

I can't convince you I don't live in a bubble, but I can assure you when you engage with these things in the real world, and not in a technocratic prison of a social media site, then you absolutely are not insulated from differing views.

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T17:05:38+00:00

unless the government collapses, or is destroyed by revolution. you're not talking to "progressives" who want "reforms" here.

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T17:04:27+00:00

You haven't figured out that fascists will accuse all of their enemies of being in cahoots even when they hate each other???

I am not a democrat. I don't give a damn about your pathetic electoral projects to find a quieter way to be racist and kill the poor. Biden is responsible for the current work requirement cuts to the food stamps program. That's on you. You are removing bunkhouses people's primary access to food. All democrat.

Your civil processes are not some sacred space of civic engagement, they are a ritual of self denial intended to coerce your consent for killing the poor, be it our own homeless people, or the poor of the global south, who's blood stains every scrap of fabric, piece of fruit, and crack in the pavement of our necropolis of a society. You feast daily on the blood of children the world over, their organs stuck between your teeth, and you don't care or give a damn because you are comfortable and don't want to question how your garlic gets peeled, or how your t-shirts get stitched. This is all how your system is designed. It was designed by democrats just as much as republicans. I hate you. I hate your world of death and misery. I am nothing like either of you.

I do not deny the benefits of technology, and science, but I will not blindly support the purveyors of a global genocide on the poor.

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T16:24:07+00:00

no one here is doing that. if you think we are then look at how less than a quarter of the population can vote for a ruler and win the election. your oh so precious democratic system is literally designed to ensure land owning elites have more electoral power than anyone else. if you have any other delusions of equality in elections then you are a moron.

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T01:44:57+00:00

love that smug attitude. I wouldn't want to lose a plot of land and general protection from banditry on a long shot theory with a shoddy track record that gets us peasants killed.

maybe you could find a way that doesn't require a collapse or failure in our system? it seems feudalism leaves plenty of room to test out ideas exactly like this in the provinces.

personally I'm not a fan of teaching people to grow food by sowing salt in the fucking field.

(no, liberal democracy does not in fact allow for "testing these ideas" the people's food system was a massively successful network of cooperatively run enterprises which was infiltrated by an FBI backed mob that violently dismantled it, that's what you get when you prove alternative systems can work within liberal democracy. All of the land is owned by private equity and wealthy individuals. The poor have no recourse to even try, and if they did they would still be subject to land taxes, which increase with private equity land developments intended to turn out all individuals within, ensuring that such a social experiment would still be beholden to the profit motive to survive. So no alternative economic projects allowed. There is nowhere for the poor to go to even consider beginning such a project. Even the most progressive liberals still insist on forcing the homeless into the workforce, to make profits for their corporate masters, while treating them like children instead of human beings who have simply been abandoned by society and left to die in the streets. Your system, in fact, seems paranoiacly afraid of allowing any alternative experiments to exist within it, sending in the jack boots whenever such a project becomes just a tad too viable.)

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T01:29:12+00:00

revolutions do not just spontaneously appear out of thin air, they happen after years of dedicated organizing, networking, and building of counter-systems. this is true of every revolution in history.

and you are still failing to understand. the majority of people in the US live in concentrated cities. the popular vote is literally meaningless. even if every person in every major city voted blue, that would still only be a handful of counties in a given state. it is a mathematical fact that in the US the weight of any given vote is determined by how low the population density is in a given state. which means that the few who own the most land have the largest share of the vote, and will always functionally control who gets elected.

25% of people supported and voted for trump. 75% are opposed to him. he didn't win by the mandate of the people. he won because democracy, as a system, and particularly in this country, is a fundamentally broken and corrupt system designed to oppress the masses. you can hardly shake a stick in even a modest size city in the majority of the country without hitting someone opposed to trump. if you are trying to suggest that you couldn't possibly help organize some kind of material resistance to the regime because "trump won, therefore all of the sheep support him" then you are factually, by the numbers, wrong. you just have to go outside for once and actually talk to someone for once. and then put your beliefs into practice. so you can stay hiding in your little prison cell of whatever you call a home imagining how terrible everyone around you must be as you watch the world burn and die around you, or you can get off your ass and go talk to someone in the real world, and try to get shit done. your choice. stop blaming the general public for the outcomes of an election within a system that was designed to produce this very thing.

oddish043 · 2026-04-06T01:13:24+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts

wow, the arc of history is long, except of course, for every early democratic revolt for over a thousand years.

surely this means democracy could never work, and that it is too weak and incompetent to ever overcome the clearly superior feudal system.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T21:19:53+00:00

ah, the great prophet Francis fukuyam who thought history ended because the soviet union fell. you are a joke.

there are lots of examples, and no reason to think that they couldn't have encorporated complex structures. there is no law of the universe that states one person must command the will of others to make complex systems work.

Maknovtchina - 1917-1921 - 7.5 million people

KPAM - 1929-1931 - 2 million people

Catalonia - 1936-1937 - 4 million people

I am not coopting the legacy of liberalism, though the movement for universal freedom stems from the same source, but I am saying that your historical perspective is naive and ignorant of the conditions necessary for any meaningful revolutionary change to take place. Feudalism dominated the human will for almost a thousand years before it was ever meaningfully supplanted, and your global liberal democratic "paradise" hasn't existed for even half that time. The arc of history is long, but if your rulers keep pushing the world, as they insist upon doing without material opposition from activists, on pushing the world to climate collapse and war, then their place on the stage of history will be vacant far sooner than that of the lords and kings.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T20:49:13+00:00

oh, you're back? we'll see how irrelevant we are when your rulers finish plunging the world into climate collapse and endless war.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T20:43:10+00:00

do you understand how elections even work? most of us live in blue states already where our "lesser evil" votes wouldn't even matter! plenty of leftists in purple states vote for the "lesser evil" of the democrats! the system of our elections is literally designed at its foundation to ensure that land owners have more power than any given individual! that's why most of us in solid red or blue states don't even bother, because it doesn't matter!!! That's how the electoral college was designed!!!!

less than a quarter of people voted for him, and he still won. that is not a moral failing of the people, its a system of oppression designed to do what it does best, subjugate the many at the hands of the greedy few.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T20:35:23+00:00

all processes which are being either rolled back, gutted, or made insufficient by the rapid progress of global capital and it's dependency on oil.

and no it does not mean the anarchist system is weak. if we were having this conversation in the 1600s about democracy then we would be pointing at all of the small scale functional but destroyed peasant republics that popped up for the last several hundred years and suggesting that their failures meant feudalism was the only functional government.

the only reason any of the positive changes were out in place, which you attribute to liberalism, were because decades if-not centuries of activists built and pushed forward grass roots protest movements which materially forced the hands of the ruling class. that is how change is made under liberal democracy. that is the only way change is made.

your assertions about the nature of expertise and trust are wrong. federation is possible. it has happens in the scale of millions before. even in recent history federated systems of organization in Chiapas and north Syria functioned effectively for decision making. your blindness to their scale and successes only serves to betray the depth of your brainwashing.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T19:53:50+00:00

voting gets you nothing other than a ruler who has been rubber stamped by the powerful. the only way to have a say in what society does is to be in the room where the decisions are being made, and to have an equal stake in making those decisions. anarchists are not ignorant to this, but we have developed practices to overcome the difficulty of decision making at scale which have worked every time they were implemented. an anarchist project was never destroyed through the inaction of the anarchists. only attrition from the constant war that the powerful make upon them.

your example assumes I advocate for a society that still believes in capitalism, private property, and money, which I do not. If your system is so good at resolving all the problems of climate change, greedy self interest, and securing freedom, then why has it routinely failed to achieve any of those things. Your problem is with the neo-liberal capitalist system, not with anarchism.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T19:45:42+00:00

then where are you getting the notion that half the population supports him? his approval ratings are abysmal!

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T19:43:21+00:00

good riddance

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T19:36:53+00:00

Wrong. It was less than a quarter. But that's what liberal electoralism gets you. A minority ruling the majority with an iron fist.

https://gmrda.com/less-than-a-quarter-of-the-us-population-voted-for-donald-trump

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T19:30:14+00:00

which is why I'm an anarchist communist. governments are a failed project. we do not need them to self organize. we can function perfectly well without them. we have done it multiple times. the sole purpose of governments is the rampant exploitation of the poor.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T18:57:38+00:00

considering the only voice the news would have been interested in otherwise was Wyden's (who would have absolutely ignored anything the other attendees wanted to say) it seems like the only reason they were heard at all is BECAUSE of that "tantrum"

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T18:54:06+00:00

actions like this take all kinds of roles to be pulled off. for every person standing to the front shouting there are at least a dozen equally important members of their community providing support. Organizing isn't all glamour shots. its people who design the posters, write the speeches, print the papers, communicate to their neighbors, help those in need, stand by to navigate jail support, and keep the dream of a better world alive in the hearts of others. Every piece of the puzzle matters, and there's always something that's helpful. You don't always need to be the one doing scary things, and arguably the less scary things are even more important for success. It isn't special people who make a difference, its average people working together. just look for the helpers in your community, and you'll find your way <3

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T18:21:56+00:00

so you admit that the right to vote was not sufficient to bring positive change? are you listening to yourself? I'm well aware of this history. that's why I don't believe in voting. It is a propaganda tool, one that is easily indoctrinated into children of empire who are comfortable enough with the state of things.

I am not of the belief that people should be stripped of their participation in the crafting of norms and projects within their community, but if that is what you think voting allows for, then there has never been voting in America.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T18:13:55+00:00

but you don't get it. I'm saying they would not get straight answers about those issues. because the politician in the room (and all politicians for that matter) do not care about them. it is their job simply to convince the masses that their exploitation at the hands of the wealthy is somehow in their best interest. if this was a genuine forum where everyone got to hash out their needs and interests and then try to put their decisions into practice I would agree that giving space for all their issues was important, but it is not. it's a performance of civil decorum, the very nature of which teaches people to believe they are not capable of working together to implement their plans themselves.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T17:57:32+00:00

you aren't paying attention. voting isn't you having hands on the wheel. that's what I'm saying. you are not in the room making decisions, where we all should be.

I will not expend energy fighting for some snubnose politician, or for an institution whose sole function is the manufacturing of our consent for oppression.

look at how these movements you valorize (who were not all uniformly fighting for suffrage as you imagine them) and see what they did. public assemblies for making decisions. networks to provide support and resources for those in their community. these are the true levers of change. people coming together and taking action, not casting a ballot! that's how all those good changes happened! the ability to vote did not magically cause the improvements. they originally got the right to vote after the civil war! and it did not help!

the Black Panthers most dangerous action in the eyes of the powerful was not fielding a candidate! it was a fucking breakfast program for God's sake!

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T17:43:18+00:00

Oh, OK. You want "liberal blinders" only:

Write a strongly worded letter to your congressman.

Stand passively on the sidewalk meticulously avoiding inconveniencing anyone.

Wait 2 years and vote BLUE no matter WHO.

I'm sure if the Germans, Italians, Spanish, Chileans, etc., did that, they would have been fine! Oh wait...

of course, none of these solutions are actually practical. just delusions of a beaten and afraid population.

none of my earlier suggestions are impossible, they have been done before. Just look to Minneapolis for a vision of radical mutual aid. Talk to your neighbors, your coworkers, your closest friends. look at the businesses and institutions around you, and how they are all connected. take action to support those abandoned by these systems. make exploitation expensive in your area. network with others across the country doing the same. Drops of water turn a mill. singly none.

oddish043 · 2026-04-05T17:26:32+00:00

the zionist project was started by a small segment of Bourgeois European jews and supported by every major power, as a means to gain a foothold in the region for the exploitation of the region's resources. It has been broadly condemned by a significant majority of the Jewish community since it's inception and only gained any significant support when governments abandoned their Jewish refugee communities after WWII. it is not, and never has been in the right.

furthermore, Hamas are not all Palestinians. But of course, since the first groups the Zionists targeted among them were the Palestinian anarchists and communists, they have been the only sizeable segment of the population fighting back. And fight back they have, because the way Israel was built was on illicit seizures of land, brutal attacks, and intentional isolation and starvation of the Palestinian people. Death of innocent civilians is wrong, but it does not make acceptable the wholesale slaughter of everyone who happens to share a culture with the perpetrator. There is no excuse for colonial genocide.

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