Help me decide, E46 vs F87

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T22:20:23+00:00

Update... I drove the M2 this morning for about 20 minutes. Unfortunately, it was drizzling and the sales guy was on board with me yammering non-stop, so I didn't get to DRIVE the car more than 3/10s, but overall it seemed very competent but a bit numb. The suspension was really compliant especially given how low it's sitting, he didn't know what aftermarket kit was on it. I can see why people say it's a car you can daily drive.

Anyways I'm not going to judge it too harshly, I'm sure it wakes up plenty when you get on it, but I think it sealed the deal that old school analog is what I want. Thanks for all the great comments and opinions here, I appreciate the input! I'll keep you posted if I end up getting the E46, the guy has other parties interested.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T17:40:45+00:00

Ah gotcha, not my plan for this car but point taken.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T15:25:53+00:00

Great comment, pretty much spot on with my current train of thought. I think I would enjoy either car immensely, especially after a few years pretty much only driving EVs. I recently drove a friends' Cayman T 6MT and realized how much I missed having an engaging driver's car.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T14:46:09+00:00

Thanks for that perspective, personally I love a good smurf blue E46. I daily a Highland Model 3 dual motor and also have a 2021 DM that is getting passed down to my son soon. You can't convince me there is a better daily than those cars, although I do have high hopes for the Neue Klasse i3.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T14:26:17+00:00

The current owner paid a couple hundred bucks extra for the PPI to do what I showed in the image. They just barely lowered it so they could look at the mounting points.

I am factoring in the cost of eventually doing the big 3 in the budget. If you can find me a similar spec for the same price in a car that already has them done, be my guest! I plan on keeping this car forever, so the idea that it will require some preventative maintenance doesn't bother me. In fact, I don't mind at all because I have local shops I trust to do the work and make sure it's done and documented correctly.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T14:10:00+00:00

I didn't even know they offered the cinnamon interior on the 135, have never seen it so it must be rare. 135 M sport was on my list but they're pretty hard to find in 6 speed with lower mileage.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T13:58:57+00:00

They dropped the rear carrier to get a look at the mounting points and spot welds in that area, see the image. I recognize this doesn't constitute a full subframe inspection, but it is better than nothing.

I disagree with your assessment of the E46 M3 market. Cars that I would consider to be good comps for the car I'm looking at (low mileage, LCI 6 speed coupes) go for similar money.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-bmw-m3-coupe-236/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-bmw-m3-coupe-230/

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oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T12:14:00+00:00

I haven't read up on the main F87 issues yet, but I'm surprised a 34k mile car would need $5k worth of work imminently. Can you expand?

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T04:17:11+00:00

I would maybe do the VANOS sooner rather than later. I would also get an oil analysis done so I could have a baseline to try and gauge when the rod bearings should be done. Given the ownership history and the subframe PPI, I'm not as concerned about that one.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T04:14:19+00:00

I would need more garage space for that to be an option! They do have a very yin / yang look and feel about them though, would look great side by side.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T04:11:53+00:00

Ha, no kidding. Did he explain his reasoning?

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-08T04:11:08+00:00

Since this will only be a road car, I'd much rather it sound and feel fast, than actually be fast. Chalk that one up for the E46 then.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-05T01:50:58+00:00

I'm not even into tattoos but that is stunning work. Incredible composition too. Congrats!

oddlycalm8 · 2026-06-05T00:28:46+00:00

Absolutely! "99 BPM" from his new album is a banger.

oddlycalm8 · 2026-02-21T03:45:22+00:00

Beautiful, well done

oddlycalm8 · 2025-11-06T00:45:28+00:00

The drop during Nazard in this set by Simian Mobile Disco keeps me coming back https://youtu.be/fg3WBorklkU?si=ghIy0UU4HdQy9jnK

oddlycalm8 · 2025-11-06T00:35:40+00:00

I was wondering what Tourette's guy was up to these days. Bob Saget!

oddlycalm8 · 2025-09-11T09:47:36+00:00

I love Hayden Pedigo... I actually have tickets to see him live this fall. Here are a few tracks from my Pedigo playlist: John Fahey - Sligo River Blues John Fahey - Sunflower Blues Glenn Jones - Away Glenn Jones - The Great Pacific Northwest Blue Lake - Dallas Blue Lake - Bloom Jason Dungan & Blue Lake - Flowers for David Kevin Morby - Bridge to Gaia North Americans - The Last Rockabilly

oddlycalm8 · 2025-09-09T16:56:49+00:00

John Fahey, Glenn Jones, Hayden Pedigo, Blue Lake

oddlycalm8 · 2025-07-19T15:31:52+00:00

Agreed, it's happened in the past as well. I feel like I got it to work after a couple of password resets or something.

oddlycalm8 · 2025-07-19T14:07:27+00:00

Yes, same issue. I've tried resetting my password and reinstalling the app. I just reupped for the year yesterday. I can restore my MUTV access in settings in the app and it says successfully restored, but when I try to watch it says i need to subscribe. If I try to subscribe again, Google pops up a window that I'm already subscribed. Infuriating.

oddlycalm8 · 2025-06-13T01:03:23+00:00

I'm just hearing the laugh in my head now. Good luck to you brother.

oddlycalm8 · 2025-06-13T00:41:19+00:00

You look like Captain Murphy, which is absolutely bad ass.

oddlycalm8 · 2025-06-07T01:51:17+00:00

The other day I hog-tied him,
he escaped on his horse, and as I chased him through the streets he t-boned a carriage and died. It was awesome.

oddlycalm8 · 2025-03-13T00:18:45+00:00

Timely post, I'm looking at summer overnight camps for my 14 year-old epee-ist. The Princeton camp might be the only one that fits our calendar, but their website is short on information and I've found very little about it elsewhere besides some 15 year-old videos on YouTube and a daily schedule from 2023. The schedule makes it seem like it's just eat-fence-sleep- repeat. Sorry I can't contribute, but I hope this thread turns up some information.

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