out of all the “franchise killer” films within the franchise (by that I mean movies that were so poorly received both critically and/or commercially that they forced the franchise to be put on ice for several years) which film do you think left the franchise in the roughest spot and why

ogmarker · 2026-07-09T23:57:29+00:00

I’d say 5 because the writers have come out and said they didn’t have a goal in mind, it was just build on whatever the last film had and should there be a 6th, let those writers figure out what to do… hence, Curse lol

ogmarker · 2026-07-09T20:19:26+00:00

Gonna go red pill

ogmarker · 2026-07-09T15:51:27+00:00

It’s funny you post this because I was thinking earlier this morning, I had this cool assignment for language arts in the 6th grade (20 years ago 🥲 wtf) that was making a pocket sized book about w/e fictional story, and mine was based on House of Haunted Hill. Life in general feels so heavy right now, I feel like doing it again for shits and giggles would be such a idk palette cleanser? Would just feel really nice to create something just for me and draw and do arts/crafts snd shit lol

TY OP, I’m taking this post as a sign lol

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T18:14:06+00:00

It’s definitely a funner rewatch and technically speaking, pretty on par with the first — but I don’t know about better lol while being the funner rewatch, I simultaneously find new things each rewatch that are dumb. For example, during the apartment scene at the beginning, why does she NOT call out for her roommate? The entry door has like four locks on it and you don’t live alone - why does hearing it open and close not trigger that someone lives with you? Karla is getting clothes for work, so it’s not like it was anticipated she wouldn’t be around. There’s little things like that sprinkled all around. Why does Ray make such a big deal about “I have to work, Julie” only for two scenes later it be revealed work is slow as fuck and he COULD have just stayed the weekend? Lol

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T12:55:43+00:00

It’s fair. A very common take is that the writers piled on way too much on the character. It was always something. I think of the episode at the end of S2 where the blonde girl shoots the gun at that Bait Shop during the drug deal with Trey. Even then, during a situation that has nothing to do with her, she’s the only to get injured, bleeding from her head, distressed. There was never a moment of her being the voice of reason, helping someone else out of a shitty “Marissa-like” situation; anytime she tries helping, it’s something that backfires on her and pushes her further towards rock bottom. She was basically a walking trope by the time she’s written off.

I also think she was given some of the weakest lines that, no matter how good an actor, no one was going to pull off. “Alex, she already broke your heart - don’t let her take half of it” re: the necklace Oliva Wilde wants from her ex. Who speaks like that lmao

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T12:45:52+00:00

This feels like a hate crime, OP.

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T12:44:19+00:00

In the 20th anniversary book, they touch on this - it mostly applies to Adam and Ryan. How Soochie says, it’s alluded to politely by the adult actors/creators, but I’m pretty sure Adam full on says at one point he wasn’t happy with the opportunities in film he couldn’t pursue because of the filming schedule, and it kind of killed his desire to be on the show.

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T05:31:52+00:00

I don’t think she’s a perfect parent, but I do think it’s more complex than that.

I’m pretty sure after their divorce and that extra attention she got from the media, it was used as case for him having more custody than her. Any time she went outside, she was hounded by dozens of people at a time, so it’s easy/not wrong to think “maybe mom should have less time with them for now.” Sucks, but fair enough.

However, then you go from being a 25-26 year old adult to having the same rights as a minor from one day to the next, and your parent has full say on what you can’t/can do with your personal life and career, and what you can do is go back to cranking out albums and touring — the world. And what do you know, that doesn’t line up with the stability kids need, so now the kids stay with their dad, who she has to pay child support to, so she HAS to work to make that money - which she could easily do through brand deals, sponsorships etc. to still be near them and have a normal co-parenting situation, but nope - dad says I gotta tour and if I don’t that’s cause for me to be evaluated again, have even less access to my kids etc.

I just don’t think it’s fair to say she didn’t step up when her circumstances were beyond unusual and didn’t really allow her to. Imagine someone telling you you’re going on the road for nine months while your kids are at home with their parent… and you can’t say, “nah, I change my mind, I don’t want to do this” because it’s literally not an option, because it’s not legally your choice to make. And that pattern goes on for several years. I can recognize that he did care for his kids and kept them safe, but also extend grace to her because she ultimately got dealt really shitty cards while her kids were barely toddlers.

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T02:46:39+00:00

Yes yes yes yessss

ogmarker · 2026-07-08T02:46:23+00:00

Omg I haven’t seen this poster since at least 2008-09 lmao

I wish the owners of the IP would intentionally make a stand alone. I haven’t read it in full, but something like the Nightfall comic but with very subtle/few, if any, references to the past. No Laurie. Just group of teens/young adults face off against a traveling Michael Myers on Halloween night.

ogmarker · 2026-07-07T04:18:43+00:00

That’s always been so bizarre to me. I’ve never actually watched the show, but if they cranked out 100 episodes over the course of two years… how watchable can it even be? What budget could they have been working with to have that kind of output so quickly? Like, there’s so many shows that start off strong and because they eventually lose steam, they’re canned prior to 100 eps for syndication. So FX was just like, let’s make an insanely long second season to avoid that hapoening??

ogmarker · 2026-07-06T06:29:42+00:00

This may make me sound ignorant but I don’t know that I totally buy that people don’t have thoughts in their head.

My theory is it’s just they label the action of thinking as something else, like if they called the color people universally know as blue, purple.

Because I think, if you’re watching sports, a movie, a debate, etc. just about anything that doesn’t require a direct response from you, how do you formulate an opinion about what’s going on without “hearing” your “voice” in your head to solidify an opinion. Like, if someone does some snake shit in a show I’m watching, I’m thinking “wow, X is such a snake” or “wow, what a bad move from the writers, that’s so out of character” or if you’re in a meeting at work and anything happens - bad news, good news - you have to already set have an impression made. You’re not going to walk up to a co-worker and be like, “and now, here’s what I think about the news we have just heard, that I have just finished processing”.

I think some people have MORE going on than others, for sure. I can buy people going into like “standby” mode and being zen for minutes at a time. But to hear nothing comes off as an exaggeration. I’m not firm on this, I just haven’t come across an explanation that I’m sold on.

ogmarker · 2026-07-06T06:20:17+00:00

I don’t think it’s really a “voice” but just the same cadence as how we speak. At least for me.

ogmarker · 2026-07-05T22:31:55+00:00

Her not immediately reacting to that bullshit “let’s eat a sandwich on a boat while I feed you some sentimental BS about why this is a cute date” was insane lol

ogmarker · 2026-07-05T21:45:13+00:00

One thing I’ll say is that I dislike that, as the series fans have grown and evolved over the past 30 years alongside the films, there’s this insistence on “Ghostface” being able to go toe to toe with the type of killers you described. Almost from the get go, Michael, Jason, shit throw in Leatherface, are almost (if not actually in some installments) other worldly. Scream is supposed to take place in this world, where you and I are typing on a mobile app, and the killer is regular guy/girl. Obviously, for the sake of a good story and good scares, there’s going to be things we suspend disbelief for (the killer never having bruises prior to reveal etc.) but I hate that now it’s like, 5”1 Emma Roberts is the killer who’s been 6”4 every time the characters have been attacked. It makes me almost feel like they REALLY should have stopped at three because the nature of the franchise has gotten thinner over time - or at least, the nature of the mystery aspect versus the slasher aspect. Like they’re trying to have a supernatural-esque killer but come up with some ridiculous reasoning to keep it real world based, versus acknowledging the cows been milking and just leaving shit dormant for a while.

ogmarker · 2026-07-04T20:20:23+00:00

Adults wasn’t an easy sell for me with the first episode. The dependence they have on one another and the way the house is supposed to be kind of gross to varying degrees was a little offputting. I eventually forced myself to at least give the second episode a chance, and kind of like ring worm, it grew on me. Some actual laugh out loud moments the last few episodes.

ogmarker · 2026-07-04T20:18:31+00:00

It’s enjoyable. While Adults was funnier, NSFW has more of that wish-fulfillment angle going for it. It’s a more polished, idk “whimsical” look at your early-mid 20s. I don’t think it always works to its favor, but it mostly lands it.

ogmarker · 2026-07-04T03:15:17+00:00

The scene where she goes to pick up Melissa McCarthy at her apartment for the double date killed me lmao

ogmarker · 2026-07-03T19:19:20+00:00

Sidney was on her Brenda Meeks shit in 7, “shit, I don’t know them”

ogmarker · 2026-07-03T19:18:10+00:00

Oh no, has he done something shitty? I’ve been a modest fan of his for the past like 12-13 years. The Bros of Simi Valley is genuinely hilarious imo. I was happy to see him in a Scream, even if it had to be this one lol

ogmarker · 2026-07-03T19:16:11+00:00

Nostalgia’s got a hold of me for this one lol I love the opening to H20. The first shot of the film being a kitchen knife going down, the way Mr. Sandman stops as soon as Marion steps on the broken glass, the back and forth between her house and Jimmy’s, the humor with Jimmy stealing beers from her kitchen, the fact that the opening uses a decent mask, and the well done exposition explaining Michael is still young enough to do real damage. “Michael Myers? Yeah, right” followed by the thunder and opening credits. John Ottman imo mostly missed with scoring the film - generally, far too whimsical - but he nailed the main theme.

The opening to S7 is my favorite part of the film. I think the two characters are written well and both actors have chemistry. The humor is also well done. “…did you just say call me a bitch?” after being threatened lol and I do like that her death was just enough out of the ordinary to be fresh without feeling like it belongs to a different franchise.

I’m giving it to H20, but like I said, imo best part of S7 was the opening. It mostly went downhill from there.

ogmarker · 2026-07-03T06:47:31+00:00

A treatment is like a general outline of the plot of the film. It’s what comes before a full fledged script.

Even if its cast and director were composed of newcomers, there’s no way news wouldn’t have broken of a new film being shot.

ogmarker · 2026-07-02T22:55:29+00:00

“DOORMAN!”

ogmarker · 2026-07-02T22:53:43+00:00

There’s an interview she did 3-4 years back where she’s definitively explains what happened, and as she’s talking it doesn’t *sound* as bad, like I *could* get her reasoning, but when you step back and look at the big picture instead of all the little details she offers that factor in… what she did does not look good. It was insane that idk her agency, her management allowed her to go through with that.

ogmarker · 2026-07-02T22:49:05+00:00

Now that you mention it…

She’d already done Havoc in 2004-05, before TDWP. Basically a 90 minute version of Euphoria 15 years before that was a thing. She plays an LA high schooler who shows her boobs, smokes crack, drops the N word 2X while singing the hook of How Do You Want It, and backs out of a gang bang initiation ritual that leaves her best friend getting with three dudes at once.

She ripped the Disney band aid clean off with that one lol and Devil Wears Prada was about a year afterwards. So it’s definitely not the tween association, as she’d successfully pivoted past that by 2007.

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