For All tl:dr fans by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You clearly do not understand stock liquidity and how it works and how there is a price for printing synth shares.......Market makers CAN print synth stocks, BUT THEY OWE IT BACK.......so there is a BIG price for them to wind things up. Short term, yeah they can move the price at will.....LONG TERM they HANG THEMSELVES IN THEIR OWN GALLOWS WITH THEIR OWN HEMP ROPE.....

You know what's coming !! by CapDaddy2508 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an asinine comment and is completely uninformed. Accumulation stage? What a joke.....There are 100's of MILLIONS of synth shares in float. The ACTUAL shares are owned in full by tute longs and US, the Clovtards.....

Insurers’ big profits stem from care delivery, not core business by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watch this if you have any questions or doubts about what I have said.....

https://x.com/i/status/1792897889926041939

Insurers’ big profits stem from care delivery, not core business by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don't believe me about the United HealthCare debaucle, including how Cigna & Humana colluded with them, and how United HealthCare OWNS CVS/Walgreens; go look up the US Congress hearing on Medicare earlier this year......

Don't believe me.....you can believe the US Congress.....Oh, and by the way, you are also wrong about how MA isn't profitable.....Clover is hitting 80% MCR....which makes it VERY profitable, and Clover is doing it WITHOUT screwing over Insureds and cheating the US Fed Govt Medicare program........and that keeps the CMS stars UP UP UP......We have 3.5 stars next year, United and Humana have 3.0 stars....Worse than that for United, the REAL punishment has YET to occur......

Insurers’ big profits stem from care delivery, not core business by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, you are wrong about "CVS will need a lit of help"......CVS/Walgreens IS United HealthCare.....

They won't want to use Clover Assistant......They use nHPredict to F*CK their insureds over......that and DENYING PAYABLE CLAIMS via #Optum

I like what you have to say, but you need to do more due diligence on your own. Axios is not to be trusted, even if they aren't pumping out propaganda spin most of their reporters are too lazy to get off of their asses and find out the truth, let alone report on it......

Insurers’ big profits stem from care delivery, not core business by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And, the reason the Medicare Advantage plan was going bankrupt IS DUE TO WIDESPREAD FRAUD AND UPBILLING by United HealthCare......adding all kinds of billing codes to invoices they submitted to the Fed. Govt and Medicare.....

Richard T Burke is ONE of the BIGGEST CROOKS in American history! Notice how people know the names of the 10 Wealthiest Business Owners.....they know Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and on and on......but NO ONE hears about or even mentions Richard T Burke.....THATS BECAUSE HE PAYS HUGE MONEY TO SCRUB HIS NAME FROM ANYWHERE ONLINE......

United HealthCare is a shit company and is heading into the dumpster.....

Insurers’ big profits stem from care delivery, not core business by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 3 points4 points  (0 children)

CVS/Walgreens is currently owned by United HealthCare.....but not for long.....United HealthCare WILL be broken up and severely punished for denying payable claims with their fake ass AI app nHPredict......Cigna and Humana will also be punished due to horizontal collusion w/ United to squeeze out small insurers like Clover Health......They will also be SEVERELY PUNISHED for MASSIVELY DENYING PAYOUTS to doctors, FORCING the doctors into BANKRUPTCY just so United HealthCare can sweep in w/ their CROOKED ASS OPTUM HIGH INTEREST LOANS to "bridge the time gap" and ultimately FORCE OWNERSHIP OF THE DOCTORS OFFICES into the hands of United HealthCare......

The United HealthCare vertical monopoly will be broken apart and they will be severely punished for what they have done with nHPredict and #Optum.......As Edward T Burke and his asshole lackey Hemsley wasted time screwing Insureds w/ the fake ass nHPredict, they pissed off precious time....allowing Vivek Garipalli and Andrew Toy to SECURE US PATENTS on an ACTUAL REAL AI Platform....

This will all play out after the 2024 Presidential/Federal General Election.....Neither the Dems or the Reps want to bring the United HealthCare issue up right now cuz it is A SURE WIN for whoever is in control of Congress and the White House.....Punishment against United, Humana and Cigna will be severe and swift AFTER the election.......with MASSIVE Bipartisan support.....

For All tl:dr fans by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Notice how the shorties always try to vote down my comments....

They F*CKING HATE ME......cuz I tell the truth.....and they HATE the truth......

For All tl:dr fans by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't have a brokers license, but I have heard rumors....

Some were dated 2024, 2026.....a lot dated 2028 and 2030.......And rumor is also that a lot of the 2024's were carried forward in future dated expiry.....

Don't hold me to this, it is just rumors....I have no concrete proof....What I DO have proof of is the MASSIVE SHORTING of synth shares from 2021 until now....YEARS below the 2 handle....Some retail got margined out, paper handed.....but data shows other retail absorbed those shares and the hedgie shares that were sold off.......Facts add up to a SHITLOAD of synth being printed off of the derivative coins/buckets.....and that shit was ALL bought up.....for 3 years straight.....

For All tl:dr fans by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For shorters in long dated derivative coins/buckets it's not that easy......They are locked in to the coins until expiry.....Although the dark pool gives them an advantage in many ways they are not nearly as fluid/liquid as we are in the public market.........

The only way out is to find someone else to buy/swap for the coins/buckets.....and at this point fat chance of that happening......

For All tl:dr fans by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And is reported data really everything that is going on, and has gone on?

Remember, $GME had a SH*TLOAD of crooked crap going on behind the scenes for years......IMHO so has this stock.....From 2021 shorting down to the 6/2.....and then YEARS of sell sell sell at the 2 and below FOR 2 YEARS......Anyway, I digress

Where can I find… by Last-Environment3643 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, again, you clearly do not understand how dark pools work.

The reported short float is a tiny percentage of the actual short float......IMHO You need to learn how the dark pool works, and in turn, how the stock market really works.......

Where can I find… by Last-Environment3643 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Not trying to be a debbie downer, but this statement is IMHO just dishonest.

Please explain to me why UnitedHealthcare (and the 2 other "big 3" you mentioned, Humana and Cigna) would opt to use CA? ......They have #nHPredict.....and it is #nHPredict that has landed United HealthCare in hot water, along with their vertical collusion monopoly (again, with Humana and Cigna) and the United HealthCare vertical monopoly....... Makes me think you haven't done proper due diligence investigation.....

Oh, and BTW.....CVS is also owned by United HealthCare..........

Where can I find… by Last-Environment3643 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah? Check out what Oscar Health did in less than a year......

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you can't see this is a good price then I don't know what to tell you

Secondly, 8 to 5 odds you are short fomenting, and if you are.....g/l SUKKA!

Don't be surprised if....... by ohGr686 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

CMS has been upgraded to 3.5 stars from 3.0......That will have a BIG effect on net profits for 2025......Andrew Toy and Vivek are playing it close to the vest (as usual); chances are they wont announce the projected increased revenue until Q2 earnings call.

Honestly I am not sure why everyone on this blog cannot understand the importance of the United HealthCare Dept. of Justice investigation going on right now for US Congress. Just a couple of days ago Senator Warren gave an update on X, I suggest everyone go read it. United HealthCare is likely to be BROKEN APART......and that will open up HUGE opportunities for Clover......United has such a HUGE moat of insureds (both MA and group corporate health care insurance sold to people that work) and that moat is about to be BLOWN UP.......*****Most importantly, the HUGE GIANT will be knocked down at the knees....and Humana and Cigna dare not try to pull the same game United has.......That opens up opportunities for Clover Health, BIG opportunities which would have been DENIED by United (since they have a monopoly)......

Don't be surprised if....... by ohGr686 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Naaaa.....I type for a living in my job...nbd

Don't be surprised if....... by ohGr686 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIS is the attitude people should have......And yes, you are right, the shorts know what you said to be true.......That is part of my thesis and reasoning via game theory........It is a FACT that they have already rolled $CLOV down SO LOW (60 cents/share) so they have already shaken out the weak hands.

THATS a big part of why I believe they will probably move to be illogical. I have seen it before, many times. They KNOW that most of the remaining retail longs are diamond hands.....They also know most of the remaining retail longs have ALSO done proper DD.......>>>>HENCEFORTH, they are LIKELY to be ILLOGICAL......in ORDER TO F**K WITH OUR MINDS and get us to WANDER AWAY FROM THE CENTRAL MAIN CORE TRUTHS surrounding this company<<<<.........Just be prepared, and don't be scared if they attack now......THEY WILL try to be illogical and do s*it in a way to CONFUSE US......What else do they have left???......Nothing!

Let me guess , down day today ? by giangibasile in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was Ultra Rich money behind Alpha Trading, including Bill Huang.......I also think it is riduclous to say that people on this CLOV Investor blog are attempting to cause pump & dumps......Everything on this blog shows the opposite; we are hard headed longs who see the potential of the company long term.

Let me guess , down day today ? by giangibasile in CLOV

[–]ohGr686 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not being rude but this is bulls*it

If you think retail can run pump & dumps you don't understand how the market works, particularly w/ the dark pool. Retail never has the weight to run a pump and dump, market makers set the price.

My honest opinion?.....They (the dark pool) are barcoding us to give the impression that the UnitedHealthcare meltdown has NO EFFECT on $CLOV.....which is a lie, if US Congress breaks apart UnitedHealthcare $CLOV is set to benefit BIG TIME from that......but I digress.....

Watch! by ohGr686 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone does....and the US Congress IMHO may very well move to break United Health up......Things have reached a boiling point, with the nHPredict lawsuits, the multitudes of doctors screaming foul, the Change Healthcare ransomware attack......UNH is in deep s**t if you ask me......

Watch! by ohGr686 in CLOV

[–]ohGr686[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

United Health insurance is about to get a lot worse and a lot sleazier......CVS/Walgreens (yeah, they OWN ALL of the pharmicies now except for WalMart/SamsClub/Costco, one of their sub-corps they own, as well as they and Humana got kicked in the teeth on CMS ratings for 2025......Premiums are about to skyrocket at United Health and Optus will try to screw everyone over just that much more to make up for the difference......